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The Laughing Man

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  1. A similar thread over at another forum posed the question of whether this was the most humiliating loss in the history of the Superbowl. The overwhelming majority of the posters have chosen this year's Broncos, which surprised me somewhat. Granted, 8 points with the greatest offense of all-time  (helmed by a record-setting QB who was lauded as the greatest ever going into the game) is pretty pathetic, and they were favored to boot.

     

    On the other hand you have the '07 Pats, who were undefeated and favored heavily (helmed by a record setting QB who was lauded as the greatest ever going into the game), and who were favored by double digits. The Pats only put up 14 with the (then) greatest offense ever. The difference, of course, is that they made the game competitive against already established they could compete with them during the regular season.

     

    And of course you have other teams like the '68 Colts...

     

    In any event, what are your thoughts?

     

  2. FYI, the last time the "greatest offense ever" went to a Super Bowl (since I'm seeing that term thrown around by Peyton haters tonight) they put up 14 points (and their QB laughed off "we're only gonna score 17 points? LOL! Ok! Is Plax playing defense?") and an 18-0 team dropped to 18-1.

     

    Defense wins championships, ya'll.

    If it makes you feel better to bring Brady into it, do so. Not going to take away from this.

     

    55 TDS, 607 points---------> 8 in the Superbowl. 

  3. 2 Ints don't put 42 points on the board.

     

    Even if the Broncos scored on every possession, they still would have loss.

     

    Again, this is a team game. Seattle came to win.

     

    Peyton Manning's pick six did, however, put 6 points on the board. That's 2 fewer than the Broncos, who had the greatest offense ever (led by Peyton Manning, who has a record-setting 55TD, MVP season), had all game.

  4. I agree. At some point you cant make any more excuses for the guy. Simply, whatever team hes on tends to not get it done when it matters most. I think you have to look at the common denominator (aka Manning)

    I think at some point it rubs off on your teammates. Even when Peyton plays great the other guys crap the bed. I think his teammates legitimately think they're not going to win alongside him. Whether Manning plays well or not is immaterial.

  5. He has not played well at all, but he can't play for everyone.

     

    I agree, but it's just funny to note that these courteous attempts to lessen his blame are seldom extended to Brady by Colts fans. Like I always say, the double standards work both ways.

     

    And this Seattle D is way better than anything Peyton has ever overcome. People will say I'm overreacting, but given the passing league we're playing in, I think this Seattle defense is among the best I've ever seen play.

  6. Yeah. Everything is on Peyton.

    We understand that you're preemptively trying to highlight everything that isn't on Peyton to make it seem like he isn't playing a big role in this collapse, but I don't think this is the time. He is going to get criticism for this and it will be deserved. So far, the greatest scoring offense in NFL history has 0 points through the first 3 quarters. The Broncos are the betting favorite, and this whole week was all about how Peyton Manning was the best ever. You're trying to downplay his failures here, but he deserves a fair amount of blame for saving his worst game for today.

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