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Good god....blah blah blah. What a pile of pure nonsense
At least you got my title right.
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When was the last time a CB went first in the draft? How often do they even go in the top 5. Or just look at the first round as a whole, that will tip you off to who is more valued.
Google Ozzie Newsome or Ernie Accorsi's and read what they think about the subject. Or watch the draft special with bill Polian and bill Parcells....they will say the same thing....and practically everyone with any football knowledge will agree. It's practically football 101 .
Ludicrous? This from the guy that claims every position has equal value.
You failed to grasp what I was saying. I was speaking about defensive machinery, not individual player material. If you disagree with what I wrote before, I urge you to try to argue against it. Oh and "because XXX says so, it's true" is not a logical argument. It's merely another opinion without facts or logical deduction and as such is worthless.
Every position does have the same value in a general sense. The defense is symbiotic. Remove any piece of the machinery, and the mechanism will fail. Your argument resembles saying that your heart is the most vital organ of your body, because otherwise it could not function. Well, the same could be said for practically every other major organ.
Remove a coverage player, and the receiver is left unattended. Remove a pass rusher, and the quarterback will have all the time in the world. Remove any one position, and you'll leave a crucial hole This is what I mean with a "general" sense. Remove any part of the mechanism and the rest will suffer equally because of it. No one part would then be more important than the other. (And yes, I mean remove that player literally).
Is this the same as saying every position has the same value in a strategical sense? No, this is an entirely different discussion (which I've yet to participate in). Putting emphasis on pass rush over coverage, will give you a strategical advantage in one area, and will leave you at a disadvantage in another. In this sense, pass rush would be of greater importance, as you strategically rely on it. However, comparing this to what I wrote before is comparing apples and oranges. This is why I asked you to prove that "pass rush is of greater importance than coverage", as that would open up an entirely different discussion on strategy and tactics.
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Fair enough. I'll assume that you, along with everyone else in this thread who seem to believe it's either one way or the other do not know what they're talking about.
The only logical reasoning in this scenario is that defense in football is based on the entity of team play. Pass rush is no more important than covering the receivers. Nor are any of these positions any more important than any other position on the defense in a general sense. Remove one, and the rest will fall.
Thus - by logical deduction - cornerback play is dependent on the pass rush, and vise versa. Believing anything else is ludicrous.
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Yes I get the point, but a pass rush is more vital to a defense than cover guys. I doubt Tom Brady went into the SB thinking "oh no, I have to face Terrell Thomas"
Prove it.
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This certainly explains why I couldn't buy Vodka from my local vendor this morning.
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Let's not do this.
This is a time of year for excitement, not infighting among fans.
We've had enough fighting in recent years.
I don't like people calling others clueless and being harsh about it, when it's obvious their overreaction was based on their own incapability of understanding. Something about rocks and glass houses..
Now, I don't mean to start a fight with NCF. As a poster, he generally seems intelligent and knowledgeable. I attribute the lack of quality in his post to the aforementioned sleep deprivation.
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Several thoughts.....
The original poster shows you a two-round mock draft to give you Colts news and a surprising number of people who call themselves Colts fans insult the poster because we don't have a 2nd round pick?!?
WTH?!?
Who gives a rip?!? The person is doing you a favor and you insult him? If I were a moderator I'd give all of you who did so a warning point, but I'm sure that just me. I didn't get much sleep and I'm feeling grumpy, but I thought it was spectacularly rude and mean of all who did. And for what?!
If you were a moderator, you should be giving yourself a warning point for writing this.
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I like Xavier Rhodes.
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in madden .
i have wayne and hilton on the outside. collie in the slot. then the TEs cant be stopped. be throwing seen routes all day with fleener and allen. i get a 100 yards and 2 tds easy with fleener. hit hilton deep all the time. signs of things to come?
I can't see any logical reasons why the results of your computer games would not be an indication of what is to happen in the future.
It happens all the time when I play Hitman.
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Don't listen to them, precious.
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I sincerely hope this nonsense about a curse was meant as a joke.
It certainly doesn't seem like they're joking, my dear old friend.
Drugs could explain this irrational behavior.
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I sincerely hope this nonsense about a curse was meant as a joke.
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it's an american thing.. so called superiority complex..
although you could make a case (cause it's 99% sure thing) the best nfl team would beat any other team in the world, since they DO NOT play any team outside of US&A and they say anything is possible in sports i really don't like the "world champions" term..
where it bothers me even more is "world series" in mlb, where probably half of players come outside of the states (Central America and Japan come to mind)..
it's also interesting that a starter of this topic is not an american
*Inferiority complex
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What's his Wife's Name??? We should put ____Strong for her at the Stadium. It would be another great thing for the City of Indianapolis. Hope she pulls through like Chuck did. And hope she knows we're fighting with her
This may come off as heartless, but enough is enough. ChuckStrong worked because of the unique situation our coach was in. This, albeit sad, does not.
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And while the guys are answering this question, I'd also like to know how come guys don't have 'friends'............they have 'buddies'
Women never have buddies, they always have just regular friends
I have a few female "buddies" who'd disagree with the latter statement.
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... Don't forget to change his avatar to a picture of Tom Brady and make his name "PatriotsLover". An example must be made!... making this all null and void, and putting the OP in my crosshairs.
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Yepper, founding member and the bass player since 1972.
www.everythinghappytheman.com
for the scoop.
ColtsHappy
Well my dad says he loves your Crafty Hands album.
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I am the most powerful human being in the entire universe.
Obvious, eh?
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The only person in the entire league with equal or greater value than Andrew Luck would probably be Aaron Rodgers.
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I wish we had debated this sooner, so it wouldn't have come as this huge surprise.
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That is one ugly dog.
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Hmm...3 pages on a guy who most likely won't see the active roster...
Still better than discussing Tim Tebow to the Colts with 4 pages.
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I guess we've finally reached that point of the season where there is nothing left to talk about.
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Sometimes I wonder why I even bother coming on these forums anymore.
One thing to keep in mind re: recent FA acquisitions and the draft....
in Colts Football
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Let's say you're the 49'ers picking 31st in the first round. A highly touted RB (AP/Trent Richardson/Reggie Bush pre-draft as an example) is available: Would you still not roll the dice on such a player, and why?