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Ok, draft experts, now that the draft is over, please list any player(s) you would like to see the Colts sign as UDFA.
My short list:
Aaron Casey, LB IU
Willie Drew, CB VA State
Josh Proctor, S OSU
Garrett Greenfield, OG SDSU
Andrew Coker, OT TCU
Curtis Jacobs, LB PSU
Blake Watson, RB Memphis
Dwight McGlothern, CB Arkansas
Javion Cohen, OG Miami
Nelson Ceaser, EDGE Houston
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2 hours ago, chad72 said:
@IndyColtsFan411 What do the bolded mean, because they aren't your first choices? Players that you like for the Colts to draft?
Those are the ones I personally would draft if I had the choice. Biggest decision was rd #1, I go back and forth between Bowers and Mitchell.
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R1:
A. Brock Bowers TE
B. Quinton Mitchell CB
C.Brian Thomas Jr. WR
R2:
A. Ruke Orhorhoro, DT Clemson
B. Xavier Legette WR
C. Max Melton CB
R3:A. Javon Bullard S
B. Christian Mahogany OG
C. Trevin Wallace LB
R4A. Cade Stover TE
B. Jalyx Hunt ED
C. Blake Corum RB
R5
A. Jared Wiley TE
B. Isaiah Adams OG
C. Isaiah Davis RB
R6
A. Kristian Boyd DT
B. Tip Reiman TE
C. Mohammed Kamara ED
R7
A. Drake Nugent C
B. Dominique Hampton S
C. Kimani Vidal RB
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On 4/8/2024 at 6:00 PM, chad72 said:
Bunch of trade downs:
22. Chop Robinson, DE, Penn State
53. Payton Wilson, LB, NC State
57. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan
82. Braden Fiske, DT, Florida State
92. Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State
117. Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
151. Jared Wiley, TE, TCU
191. Drake Nugent, OC, Michigan
234. Anthony Gould, WR, Oregon State (excellent returner)
Not a big fan of this mock. But only because I haven't seen some of these players in action. I do like both Wilsons and Hicks. Nugent is a good late pick. Not really sure about the rest. Not sold on Robinson as our 1st rd pick.
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Good article on a local kid and a player I think Colts will look at in later rounds.
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22 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
Note
Trade back
Pick up of FS Simmons in FA
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My Draft Picks
29. Adonai Mitchell WR Texas
46. Jonah EllissEDGE Utah
61. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson
73. Cole BishopS Utah
82. Khyree JacksonCB Oregon
117. Jaylan FordLB Texas
151. Joe Milton IIIQB Tennessee
Nice mock. I would be happy with this mock.
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This mock targets supporting AR while getting help on defense.
-Bowers is a generational talent (according to almost everyone) you have to take if he is there.
-Beebe is considered one of the best, if not THE best G in draft and is an immediate upgrade over any G on our roster other than Q.
-Wilson is the coverage LB to spy on the receiving RBs in our division.
-Smith is an athletic beast of a DT, looking toward future.
-Demerson is a rangy FS, backup now, possible starter in future
-Limmer is Kelly's replacement in a year or 2
-Coker is a WR with size and good hands, battle AP for reps
-Richardson is backup CB
-Reiman is another athletic TE, picked him up due to his RAS & the possiblility that we lose both MAC & Ogletree
15. Brock BowersTE Georgia
Height: 6 - 3 |Weight: 243 lbs |RAS: N/A
Strengths
- Size/speed anomaly with the instant burst and speed to warp tackling angles
- Energized athlete with rapid foot speed, a full release package, and stem and zone IQ
- Constant leg churn and fighter's mentality makes him near-impossible to bring down
- Can snare high-difficulty throws in-stride with rare body control and contortion ability
- Brings ultra-reliable hand-eye coordination and hand strength, even on contested balls
- Physical, assignment-sound blocker whose profile lends him usage versatility in space
Weaknesses
- Frame, while dense and compact, is around average mass for a tight end
- Hips can be a bit stiff when redirecting, limiting range on 90-degree transitions
- Route tree, while expansive, can use more efficient plant-and-drive technique
- Doesn’t have the high-end mass or play strength to be a consistent in-line blocker
54. Cooper BeebeOG Kansas State
Height: 6 - 3 |Weight: 322 lbs |RAS: 9.3
Strengths
- Hyper-dense and well-leveraged lineman with elite mass and physicality
- Has great burst and range when he’s able to pull and attack defenders in space
- Squatty, heavy-handed blocker who easily bends his knees and stays square
- Can plow run defenders with power, and shock rushers with forceful punches
- Day 1 position flex lineman with experience at both guard and tackle spots
- High-effort, tough-as-nails blocker who plays to the whistle and punishes defenders
Weaknesses
- Has below average arm length, which can limit his reach and cause lurches
- Naturally, with his densely built frame, can be a bit stiff when recovering hip leverage
- Occasionally drifts upright in pass protection and exposes his torso to power
- On occasion, can be more patient and proactive with his independent hand usage
82. Payton WilsonLB NC State
Height: 6 - 3 |Weight: 233 lbs |RAS: 9.81
Strengths
- Has hyper-elite explosiveness and long speed and can cover absurd amounts of ground
- Twitched-up support LB who uses abrupt micro-movements to sift through congestion
- Contact tackler who can encase runners with his frame, using leg churn to drive force
- Alert coverage LB with great blind spot IQ, spatial awareness, and hip leverage
- High-motor defender who is legitimately always around the football
Weaknesses
- Has a lean and narrow frame with below-average length
- Lack of mass and inability to halt momentum allows runners to finish
- Can still improve hand precision on swats and rip moves as a pass rusher
- Has torn his ACL twice and suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in 2021
- Will be a 24-year-old rookie at the start of the 2024 season
117. Maason SmithDT LSU
Height: 6 - 5 |Weight: 306 lbs |RAS: 8.99
Despite not making it through his first game as a true sophomore, the LSU Tigers defensive tackle remains one of the most heralded NFL Draft prospects in the 2024 cycle. His frame may be the most frightening since Shawn Oakman, and his game resembles Stephon Tuitt and David Irving. His freakish athleticism paired with improved hands and a little experience could secure him a top-10 selection come April. - Dalton Miller
151. Dadrion Taylor-DemersonS Texas Tech
Height: 5 - 10 |Weight: 197 lbs |RAS: 8.74
Strengths
- Compact, low-to-the-ground defender who packs a lot of mass inside his frame
- Energized mover with a smooth pedal who can make swift transitions on triggers.
- Has shown he can throttle and swivel on his pedal to maintain leverage in space
- Has near-elite playmaking and pursuit range and can swiftly undercut deep passes
- Brings combative energy in all phases and can blast passes loose at the catch point
- Not only willing but eager to engage blocks and impose physicality in run support
Weaknesses
- Has below average size for a safety and only has average length and reach
- With size limitations, can be more easily moved off his spot in press-man coverage
- Occasionally plays too tall and crosses his feet on his pedal, which can delay transitions
- On occasion, throws himself into contact and fails to wrap up runners properly
155. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 302 lbs |RAS: 9.83
191. Jalen CokerWR Holy Cross
Height: 6 - 1 |Weight: 208 lbs |RAS: 8.49
234. DeCamerion RichardsonCB Mississippi State
Height: 6 - 2 |Weight: 188 lbs |RAS: 9.67
243. Tip ReimanTE Illinois
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 271 lbs |RAS: 9.92
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Appreciate your effort as always.
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15. Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
49.Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
82. Christian Mahogany, OG Boston College
115. Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
117. Maason Smith, DT LSU
151. Tanor Bortolini, OC Wisconsin
191. Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
234. Tip Reiman, TE Illinois
I think this is one of the better mocks I’ve done. Thoughts??
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8 hours ago, riftastic28 said:
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Quinyon Mitchell*, CB, Toledo
Height: 6-0. Weight: 196.
40 Time: 4.33
Forget about sneed we got this kid right here will save money and lock up a young corner. If we were Super Bowl contenders I’d say go after sneed .
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Xaiver Legette, WR, South Carolina
Height: 6-3. Weight: 227.
Projected 40 Time: 4.39
Big strong fast wideout can bully corners and free up Pittman.
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Kamren Kinchens*, S, Miami
Height: 5-11. Weight: 203.
40 Time: 4.65.
40 time may cause him to slide we have to jump on that pick .The guy is everywhere true ball hawk . If he ran a fast 40 he’s a 1st rounder. Similar to last year Antonio Johnson on the jags he ran like a 4.53 an dropped . I wanted Johnson last year on the colts . Anyhow his production may out weigh his combine .
Theo Johnson, TE, Penn State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 257.
Projected 40 Time: 4.57
The kids a freak Athlete he didn’t get much action but when he did he delivered . We’d be lucky to snag him in the 4th
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Will Shipley*, RB, Clemson
Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.
40 Time: 4.39.
Would be great change of pace guy . In a running back backend of the draft he might get lost in the shuffle if not someone else will be there .
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Javon Solomon, DE, Troy
Height: 6-1. Weight: 247.
40 Time: 4.72.
He does one thing pass rush . Great on special teams and situational 3rd down working him in to a rotation
Nice mock. Don't have anything negative to say about it. Would be happy if Colts got these players.
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In this mock, I drafted defense early, then went with best fit / BPA approach. Mitchell helps solidify the CB room. Cooper is compared to The Maniac (that would be awesome if true). Jenkins for depth on DL. OC from Wisc to replace Kelly in a year or 2. I'm a fan of UofL Cardinals, so had to pick Guerendo. And Ford would replace MAC while on a rookie contract. What do you guys think?
15. Quinyon Mitchell, CB Toledo
Height: 6 - 0 |Weight: 195 lbs |RAS: 9.84
Strengths
- Can click and close and undercut passes in an instant with his elite recovery speed
- Proven ball-hawk with six interceptions and 37 pass breakups over past two years
- Energized short-area mover with torrid foot speed and effervescent corrective twitch
- Adept processor in off-man and zone, who can instantly trigger on route breaks
- Has the frame, targeted physicality, agility, and fluidity to dictate reps in press-man
- Has the versatility to play the boundary or the slot in man, off-man, or zone coverage
Weaknesses
- Doesn’t quite have elite fluidity and sink when bending to close ground on hitches
- Can be baited into making premature hip transitions by nuanced WRs at stems
- Relatively inexperienced in press-man, and can improve upper-lower synergy
- Can keep shoring up his tackling form as a support defender
51. Edgerrin Cooper, LB Texas A&M
Height: 6 - 2 |Weight: 230 lbs |RAS: 9.34
Linebackers who naturally, and consistently, make plays, are impossible to replicate. They can run a 4.7 40-yard dash and still be valuable because they process information at lightning speed and are innate playmakers. Edgerrin Cooper is that player, but with outstanding athleticism and length. That length allows him to wrangle ball carriers with an incredibly high hit rate. He knifes through blockers and consistently makes plays around the line of scrimmage, while also providing a bump as a pass rusher. Dalton Miller
82. Kris Jenkins, DT Michigan
Height: 6 - 2 |Weight: 299 lbs |RAS: 8.92
Being the son of a former NFL All-Pro, it’s no surprise that Jenkins has some of the most enthralling tools in the class. He’s an incredibly explosive athlete off the snap, both laterally and vertically, and has suffocating strength at the point of attack.
Going further, with his burst, twitch, and mass, Jenkins can levy impressive amounts of power into his attacks, and as he trends up with his hand usage and energy efficiency, it’s exciting to think about the potential that remains unearthed.
-Ian Cummings
103. Jermaine Burton, WR Alabama
Height: 6 - 0 |Weight: 196 lbs |RAS: 9.54
117. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, S Texas Tech
Height: 5 - 10 |Weight: 197 lbs |RAS: 8.87
151. Tanor Bortolini, OC Wisconsin
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 303 lbs |RAS: 9.79
158. Javion Cohen, OG Miami (FL)
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 324 lbs |RAS: N/A
202. Isaac Guerendo, RB Louisville
Height: 6 - 0 |Weight: 221 lbs |RAS: 9.98
219. Brevyn Spann-Ford, TE Minnesota
Height: 6 - 6 |Weight: 260 lbs |RAS: 7.58
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I've seen talk in Colts forums (not just this one) that says the Colts need to stack talent and not just picks. So this mock addresses that strategy. Traded back a few times to get 6 picks in the top 85. Opinions?
26. Adonai Mitchell, WR Texas
54. Trey Benson, RB Florida State
56. Ruke Orhorhoro, DT Clemson
57. Payton Wilson, LB NC State
82. Max Melton, CB Rutgers
85. Will Shipley, RB Clemson
234. Prince Pines, OG Tulane
2025 DAL 6th
Didn't realize I had drafted 2 RBs until done, so, probably wouldn't have done that. But Shipley was the best talent available at that pick. And he is a great receiving RB, which could've helped vs Texans in the last game.
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8 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:
I’m trying to pull the guys from my list that people might not be too familiar with. So today I’m going to spotlight Ruke Orhorhoro, DT from Clemson
9.90 RAS and he’s that explosive on tape. This is one of those super athletes that Ballard likes.
I like this guy at DT, right behind Sweat and Murphy II. I've had him in several of my mocks. Raw compared to some of the DTs available, but his potential is very high!
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As always, @Superman, I appreciate your efforts and the time it took for you to put this together each time you do. I like some of your FA pickups, and agree with retaining some of our own FAs. However, I don't really like your draft. Your picks, themselves, are not bad picks, I just do not like them. I hope Leggette turns into a weapon Colts hoped Pierce was supposed to be. Chop, not a fan, he could be good, but didn't like what I saw of him this year. Not sure about Fiske either. This draft could be good, and I'd be happy to eat crow. Keep up the good work!
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36 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
Using PFN's simulator:
Trade back with the Bucs for 26, 57 and their 2025 2nd.
R1.26 - Adonai Mitchell, WR.
R2.46 - Ruke Orhorhoro, DT.
R2.57 - Payton Wilson, LB.
R3.82 - Marshawn Kneeland, DE.
R4.117 - Mason McCormick, OG.
R5.151 - Theo Johnson, TE.
R6.191 - Caedan Wallace, OT.
R7.234 - Dominique Hampton, S.
Nice mock. I would be happy if Colts walked away from the draft with these picks.
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53 minutes ago, w87r said:
Just gonna post this here as well. Will get lost in other thread.
My estimation on how much cap we have used today and how much we have left.
Franklin + $3m
Pittman - $5m
Lewis + $5m
Stewart + $10m
$18m off the cap.
So sitting about $31-$35m currently in my estimate.
By my count based off your figures, and it should be $21M off the cap.
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On 2/24/2024 at 8:25 AM, Dark Superman said:
This is literally one of my favorite Colts mock drafts this year!
This is my favorite mock I've done. Realistic? No. But if we got even close to this draft, I think most fans would be happy.
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20 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
It didnt fall exactly the way I wanted, but I could live with this
If you havent watched Sanders TE in from Texas, he is worth a watch
15. Jer'Zhan Newton DT Illinois
46. Ja'Tavion Sanders TE Texas
82. Calen Bullock S USC
117. Junior ColsonLB Michigan
149. Zak ZinterOG Michigan
192. Tommy EichenbergLB Ohio State
I like this mock. I really like what I've read about Eichenberg as a LB. Solid mock.
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This morning's latest mock:
No trades. I like it. What are your opinions?
15. Terrion Arnold, CB Alabama
Height: 6 - 0 |Weight: 180 lbs |RAS: N/A
As a freshman, and even early in 2023, it appeared Terrion Arnold would be heading back to school for his redshirt junior season. The young defensive back had a tough outing against Texas, but has been absolutely outstanding since. His high-caliber basketball background is clear in the way he plays press coverage. He is patient and long, never overcommitting to a jam and rarely allowing his eyes to bite the cheese. His smooth and explosive athleticism make him a perfect candidate for heavy man-coverage defenses, but he possesses the zone intelligence and background in Nick Saban's scheme to be a plus zone defender off the bat while he grows. Dalton Miller 12/2/2023
46. Ja'Tavion Sanders, TE Texas
Height: 6 - 3 |Weight: 235 lbs |RAS: N/A
The best pass-catching prospect on Texas is tight end Ja'Tavion Sanders. He moves extremely well for a 6'4", 255-pounder, showing off great comfort as he releases off the line of scrimmage and even as defenders drape his body in coverage. Sanders is a natural receiver in the mold of Gerald Everett, thanks to his quickness and willingness to get physical to finish the catch. He won't be confused for an especially effective blocker, but Sanders makes an effort. Sanders should be valued as a strong Day 2 prospect with another quality year in 2023. - Ian Valentino
82. Xavier Legette, WR South Carolina
Height: 6 - 3 |Weight: 227 lbs |RAS: N/A
Calling Xavier Legette a late-bloomer seems like an understatement. Legette wasn't on anyone's radar in the NFL Draft world aside from his explosive kick return potential. The 6'3", 227-pound receiver is a height/weight/speed anomaly who will receive more than a few DK Metcalf comps during the draft process. He's unbelievably explosive. In fact, he'll likely be one of the fastest player at the draft, even at nearly 230 pounds. And he doesn't turn like a cruise ship as a route runner, either. But his most impressive attribute is his high-point ability and vice grip hands in contested and aerial situations. Dalton Miller 12/2/2023
117. Maason Smith, DT LSU
Height: 6 - 5 |Weight: 316 lbs |RAS: N/A
Despite not making it through his first game as a true sophomore, the LSU Tigers defensive tackle remains one of the most heralded NFL Draft prospects in the 2024 cycle. His frame may be the most frightening since Shawn Oakman, and his game resembles Stephon Tuitt and David Irving. His freakish athleticism paired with improved hands and a little experience could secure him a top-10 selection come April. - Dalton Miller
149. Isaiah Adams, OG Illinois
Height: 6 - 4 |Weight: 318 lbs |RAS: N/A
192. Jay Stanley, S Southern Miss
Height: TBD |Weight: TBD lbs |RAS: N/A
231. Kimani Vidal, RB Troy
Height: TBD |Weight: TBD lbs |RAS: N/A
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20 hours ago, chad72 said:
One more mock, just for giggles, with lots of trades:
23. Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State
54. Cooper Beebe, OG, Kansas State
59. Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas
82. Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
85. Ty'son Hopper, LB, Missouri
86. Maason Smith, DT, LSU
117. Blake Corum, RB, Michigan
131. Jaheim Bell, TE, Florida State
Don't know much about Robinson, myself, but I like the rest of the mock. Looks full of potential starters, good depth.
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On 2/14/2024 at 6:54 PM, chad72 said:
Trades with Cardinals for 27. and 35. and more trades led me to land these:
27. Jer'Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois
35. Jackson Powers-Johnson, OC, Oregon
57. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
82. Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan (no way he is available here)
102. Cam Hart, CB, Notre Dame
118. Blake Corum, RB, Michigan (trade up and giving up future 4th)
This is one of the better mocks I've seen in awhile. Nice job. Would love the 1st 3 picks.
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23 hours ago, KB said:
Definitely. That's why I say you grab Bowers and hope that both reach their ceiling. It would be like the new age Hernandez and Grronk.
Yea, the Colts would be killing teams if Woods and Bowers develop properly. LOL (too soon? not right?)
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On 2/10/2024 at 9:18 AM, rock8591 said:
Per Fanspeak (as of 2/10/24), with no trades:
1. Brian Thomas (WR) - LSU2. T'Vondre Sweat (DT) - Texas
3. Mike Sainristil (CB) - Michigan
4. Jaylan Ford (LB) - Texas
5. Kitan Oladapo (S) - Oregon
6. Frank Gore Jr (RB) - Southern Miss
7. Aaron Casey (LB) - Indiana
Not sure if we need 2 LB's. I like them both, but I may have taken an OL for depth. Good mock.
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Yet another mock. No trades, I think I hit on some good players. The first 3 picks, I think can be productive, possibly start. Milton to backup AR. What do you think?
15. Keon Coleman, WR Florida State
Height: 6 - 4 | Weight: 216 | RAS: N/A
Despite volatility at quarterback and up front on the offensive line, Coleman thrived as a true sophomore in 2022. He racked up 58 catches, 798 yards, and seven touchdowns alongside 2023 second-round pick Jayden Reed. He leveraged that second-year production into a transfer opportunity at Florida State.-Ian Cummings
46. Kamren Kinchens, S Miami (FL)
Height: 5 - 11 | Weight: 201 | RAS: N/A
Kamren Kinchens nearly paced the nation with six interceptions in 2022, proving his ball-hawking ability over the middle of the field. Quietly, he's also one of the most complete safeties in the 2024 NFL Draft. Kinchens' playmaking ability is certainly one of his most exciting qualities, but that playmaking is also a byproduct of his ability to read the QB's eyes, manage space, and transition while channeling acceleration in zone. And at 5'11", 202 pounds, he has the size, angle IQ, and closing speed to be a support menace as well. - Ian Cummings
82. Sedrick Van Pran, OC Georgia
Height: 6 - 4 | Weight: 310 | RAS: N/A
Sedrick Van Pran would have contended with Joe Tippmann and John Michael Schmitz as the first center off the board in the NFL Draft. Van Pran is an excellent mover who possesses an innate ability to pursue the correct angle at the second level while also having the lower-body composition and power to be a difference-maker at the first level. - Dalton Miller
117. Khyree Jackson, CB Oregon
Height: 6 - 3 | Weight: 195 | RAS: N/A
149. Jared Wiley, TE TCU
Height: 6 - 6 | Weight: 259 | RAS: N/A
One of the biggest pass catchers in the country at 6'7", tight end Jared Wiley has unusual coordination and speed for his size. He excels on curl routes against zone, where he's comfortable settling in between defenders and preparing for contact. Though he wasn't often featured as a primary read except on play fakes and trick plays that are designed to get him wide open, Wiley has solid potential to be a more consistent contributor in the passing game.
The more solidified part of Wiley's game is as a blocker. He'll lose some reps due to his high pad level, but his activity level, length, aggression, and quickness are major assets. It's not a question of whether he's a good blocker or not but how good he'll become over time. - Ian Valentino
192. Joe Milton, QB Tennessee
Height: 6 - 5 | Weight: 236 | RAS: N/A
Flashes controlled pocket movements vs. pressure
Big, big arm
Acceleration through throwing motion is insane
The ball gets to the opposite hash instantaneously
-Ian Cummings
231. Omar Speights, LB LSU
Height: 6 - 1 | Weight: 235 | RAS: N/A
Omar Speights logged over 300 total tackles in his career at Oregon State, before transferring to LSU. He's been underrated across that entire span, and he's one of the 2024 NFL Draft's biggest sleepers.
At 6'1", 237 pounds, Speights is a rocked-up second-level defender with impressive mass. That mass amounts to great play strength both as a block destructor and a tackler. But Speights also brings quality burst, range, and short-area agility as a coverage defender, and he's very instinctive when managing the middle of the field. -Ian Cummings
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Are you saying this as starter or backup to AR?