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20 hours ago, Luck2Hilton4TD said:
Reader, Armistead, or Byron Jones might make sense.
Getting two of them could be a coup for our defense.
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11 hours ago, lennymoore24 said:
For the Love defenders, how can you actually watch these highlights and blame this all on coaching or receivers. He throws out patterns over and over. Terrible interception in end zone. Terrible accuracy on some passes. But you say it is all because of turnover on the coaching and players? I don't see it. I have no favorite QB in this draft. Honestly, I think Burrow is the only QB that is a sure fire thing. But watch any Anthony Gordon highlights and tell me what Love does better than Gordon? Gordon has better release, better touch, better accuracy. He spreads the ball more and makes better reads. Love is playing Brissett. Again, we all have our opinions and mine is no more valid. I really don't see what you see in this guy. But lets revisit this in 2-3. I predict he will be an hot and cold player that drives the coaches nuts until he is replaced.
I see decent ability in this "lowlight" piece. He wasn't particulary accurate or special when throwing on the move was he?
Just going by this, i didn't see enough here to push him up the draft board.
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8 hours ago, stitches said:
Going for bargain bin QBs should not be an option. It's so weird to me seeing people prefer getting a DEFENSIVE TACKLE over a QB... And settling for the 7th QB just so you don't pick QB in R1... It's weird
Your 7th may be someone else's 4th best QB that could turn out to be as good as anyone other than Burrow. It shouldn't be hard to understand.
Ballard explained his idea about grading players and to not over draft because of need. Your favorite QB, that by my readings he is a 2nd rd, even for some a 3rd guy, isn't someone to get excited about just yet.
And speculating on a message board pre-Senior Bowl, pre-combine, pre-individual workouts is really just for fun.
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11 hours ago, danlhart87 said:
This writer is out in left field.
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On 1/14/2020 at 2:32 PM, Coffeedrinker said:
So the point was because he got beat on a play and the QB got injured he should not get credit for allowing 0 sacks in the last 30 games?
Would Nelson trade giving up a sack for not ruining the 2nd half of his teams season?
Don't know, but watching someone have a meltdown over this is ugly. -
Retires at 28 and i think he is a Hall of Famer.
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4 hours ago, lennymoore24 said:
Washington the first year. Very simple reads and he did very well. After that year, teams learned to take those away and he had a very hard time. Same thing happened to Love. He has a very hard time going through progressions and recognizing more complex coverage schemes. That is why he turned into a turnover machine this year. If I were to compare Love to anyone, I would say he is a more athletic Jameis Winston. He might throw 3 TDs but also have 2 interceptions and a fumble. I think some people get enamored because of his physical ability, which is elite. But that is fools gold. In general, if a college QB is said to have all the physical tools but need work on their accuracy and decision making, that rarely gets better in the NFL. I will say now that Herbert and Eason scare me as well. Similar reasons. You are draft physical specimens who are very streaky with the hope when they get to the NFL they will improve.
Besides obviously Joe Burrow and Tua, the QBs I have analyzed so far I would be more interested in is Jake Fromm and Anthony Gordon. Fromm has been put down because of his supporting cast and he didn't have big numbers this year. If that were the trend, then I could see why. But last year he threw 30 TDs and that wasn't a problem. What I like about Fromm is he is smart, decisive, goes through progressions quickly, and is very determined. Gordon has one of the best releases I have ever evaluated at any level. He effortlessly can make any throw and he has great touch. He is very accurate and poised. It is often tricky to evaluate QBs from Air Raid but I think Gordon has what i takes to develop. He is the polar opposite of Brissett. He is very aggressive, can make touch throws, very decisive, and goes through his progressions before trying to run around.
Now, just like anyone else on here, I could be completely wrong. But I have predicted very well how other QBs would turn out. I knew RGIII would be backup in year 3. I knew Trubinsky would be a bust and Minshew would do well for where he was drafted. But I honestly would be very disappointed if the Colts drafted Love. I think that is three years down the tubes for this team and probably the death nail for Ballard/Reich.
Yawn.
Better info will be available just before the draft after professionals scrutinize the subjects. -
Mock's are a good way to get your research in. We have a number of important holes to fill and you did a creditable job doing that.
Ballard may pay up for Sheard for another season, even though his play on the field wasn't to the level a good D needs.
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His Cowboys teams had Greatness. Well coached, you bet.
How bout that Jimmy Johnson!! He didn't do it for as long as most of the Greats, but he stood out in his time. -
35 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
Dobbs has declined to interview with the Browns. He said he has "unfinished business" with the Colts. Per Tom Pellisaro this morning. Yeah!
Really glad to hear he is staying.
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18 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:
Ballard said we will win in the trenches, and now its time to focus on the d line. We need play makers on the inside and the outside. Lewis has been hurt and not looking like 2nd rnd talent to me. Turray was looking promising before he got hurt, and although Houston is great, he is on borrowed time. I believe Stewart finally got his needed bulk last year, and may improve even more this offseason, but I still think we need more penetration up the middle.
STEWART dropped 15lbs for this season.
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4 hours ago, WoolMagnet said:
I really think Ballard will address the DL. He talks about how important both lines are. And during last draft i recall hearing how the 2020!should be deep at DL. It may have been part of the plan.
I look at these facts. When he addressed the OL he took it seriously and was thorough. He addressed and improved the LB corps fairly quickly and dramatically. The CB position was addressed strongly too. Injuries have set CB and S positions back, but we do have some talent there too.
QB and now possibly LT have thrown wrenches into his “master plan“ (not to mention injuries), but he seems to land on his feet and meet the challenges head-on.
I fully expect to be pleased (realistically speaking) after this draft and offseason. I guess i “trust the process.”
Ballard will pay up this off season for a DT and draft one in the 1st 3 picks.
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The Titans had a great defensive game plan with lots of guys making big plays in the secondary. That is not us by a longshot.
And all the teams in the playoffs have shown more creativity than anything Reich put on the field.
We appear to be at Defcon 4 this off season. We need to be bold, to go where Capt. Ballard hasn't gone before.-
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NO!
We wouldn't have beaten NE and would have been slaughtered by the Ravens.
Eb, nor his players would have been up to the challenge.
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20 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:
Can he "work with Reich" during the offseason? CBA?
You Dingus, the off season runs up to Opening Day of next season.
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15 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
What you’ve done is what most fans do. What is this guy right now. This minute.
That’s not what NFL people do. That’s what fans do. Especially disappointed fans.
So... let’s take Anthony Walker. You say 44th tank makes him a JAG. If roughly half if the teams are running a 4-3 that's 48 linebackers. The other half are running 3-4’s... that’s 64 more.
Thats 112 starting linebackers. You still insist that a 44th ranking makes him a JAG? Because if you do, then you’re in the company of many other posters here who don’t know what a JAG is. Sorry.
Just. Another. Guy.If you heard Chris Ballard speak of him a week ago you’d never think Walker was a Jag.
PS — on a personal level... great name you’ve chosen. I first used it about 30 years ago for my Fantasy Baseball Team. Sorry we disagree.Since i can't project what anyone will become, i do prefer to go with what i see for now.
Walker is someone that we can agree to like his trend a bit.
We noticed his tackles bumped at seasons end. I'm always reminded of Ray Lewis, after a season of low stats, complaining mightily about the guys in front of him not eating up blocks so he could do what he was known for.
It looked to me like Hunt was getting more 1st down snaps late in the season and doing some good pounding on the inside. If i saw this right, it would help explain Walkers surge in tackles. There is always more to the story.
That said, Walker being called one of the better LB's this season is a significant stretch for me. He would fall more into a sea of average.
Okereke does make him more valuable because we can sometimes get him off the field in situations he is the most vulnerable in.
Walkers lack of speed locks him into being vulnerable on any play, but let's project that his effectiveness gets better with better play in front of him and with even more game experience. Getting to the spot is very mental for his position, so we can have reasonable expectation of upside.
I guess i would hope he gets near the level of Danny Trevathon who i liked during his best seasons in Denver. My eye test sees Walker as probably a whole step slower to the sidelines and a lesser athlete in coverage. Just my thoughts. And Denver still let him go after his 1st contract.
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11 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
Yes... of course we have JAGS, all teams do.
The questions are who and how many? But when I listed almost all of Ballard's draft picks YOUR RESPONSE was.... "other than Nelson and Leonard, aren't all the rest JAGS?"
I'm sorry, but the moment you said that, is the moment you lost the argument. It's the moment you clearly demonstrated how little you know about football. I'm sorry, but that's just the plan blunt facts. Your assertion was spectacularly wrong.
From the first class: Mack is JAG? No. Walker is a JAG? No. Hooker is a JAG? Nope. He may not be what we hoped he'd be, but he's not a JAG.
From the 2nd class: Smith is a JAG? No. Turay is a JAG? No. Even Lewis isn't a JAG or a bust. He's a disappointment because he can't stay healthy, but if you understand the meaning of the word, then he's not a JAG. Hines is not a JAG. Neither is Wilkens. Fountain has been hurt, so no. Cain was hurt and grabbed off of the PS, so no. If you want to call the two 7th round LBers JAGS -- that's your perogative, but I doubt Ballard would agree.
From the 3rd class: First, and let's be clear, you're not supposed to judge any rookie unless they're a big hit. You're not supposed to judge young players until AFTER their 3rd year. And you're juding them two years early. But here we go. Rock was a disappointment, but that doesn't make hm a JAG. He wasn't supposed to play this much, but he got thrown in before he was ready. Not a JAG. Ben is learning and barely played, not a JAG. Parris couldn't stay healthy. Disappointing but not a JAG. Okereke is a Ballard favorite. He was very pleased with his rookie season. Not a JAG. Same with Willis, not a JAG. Even Tell has played well. Not a JAG either. Speed showed Ballard enough to say how much he's looking forward to seeing him develope.
I'm sorry, but as far as the JAGS are concerned, they're not among the draft picks. We were more injured than most teams. Ballard admitted, he didn't do a good enough job on depth. The back-ups. The man owns it.
Not sure what more you want? You're can call the key players JAGS all you want. And you'd be wrong every time you do it. Sorry, but you and I see the same thing completely different. Not much more I can say. We just seriously disagree.
Just a guy. Average, no more than that. Not that hard to replace.
Okereke. PFF 7th highest grade. Came on strong in sittuations. Above average with a high ceiling.
Walker PFF 44th rated LB. In the top 68, only 2 LB's graded lower against the run.
So his coverage skills help raise him to 44th. Ouch! Just a Guy obviously.
Hooker PFF 36th rated S. And was playing very poorly the last half the season.
Sorry but he was just a JAG.
Willis. Nice kid, played decent. Tied with Hooker at 36th. Just a Guy right now.
Lewis. Hasn't earned even a JAG rating. He has shown almost nothing when he has played.
Hines. He makes some plays but so do a lot of RB's. He is a solid Average. A JAG.
Wilkins. He might be considered an average RB. But few here would want him to be the starter even after injuries. Very much a JAG.
Banogu was drafted pretty high. Earned the PFF 103rd spot. Less than a JAG.
Campbell was highly drafted. Didn't earn JAG level yet.
Tell had a game he made a few plays. And looked lost just as much. Less than a JAG. Nice size and speed, hopefully he becomes better than Walker.
Rant all you wish, you have your own grading scale based on... -
On 1/7/2020 at 9:55 PM, hoosierhawk said:
Your opinion Mr Negative. Can't recall you ever having a positive feeling about any Colt.
Watched every game with keen interest having been an OL in my past. May have been a weak link in #3 OL in the NFL but better than 3 out of 4 of the right guards in the league.
Of the top 68 PFF graded guards, Glow was #62 in pass blocking.
This would = a few of you being full of beans. He did get chewed up often.
He was the 45th rated guard overall, and had a pedestrian 64.9 run blocking grade. He was below average. -
43 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
He isn’t a sack guy though. So I don’t think he would solve the issue there. But a good run stuffer.
Yes, let's sign that one guy that solves the issue.
And no, he isn't a good run stuffer.
He is one of the best in the league.
He would be a serious upgrade to Grover. -
We would have a better chance of winning with Smith.
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15 hours ago, Dogg63 said:
This site shows it as:
5 Holding
3 PI
1 Illegal Contact
Also, it shows
2 at KC in week 5 (illegal contact, holding)
5 vs Denver in week 8 (3 holding, 2 PI)
1 at NO in week 15 (holding)
1 at Jacsonville in week 17 (PI)
So, it appears his name wasn't heard for a penalty anywhere near every week. It was heard during only 4 games, in fact, for a total of only 9 penalties all season. Pretty good for a rookie CB.
Oops. I used the same site just transfered them wrong.
For the stats lovers Richard Sherman was PFF highest graded CB.
And he had 3 holding with 4 PI.They have a common trait, they lack top end speed. Sometimes they are going to get beat. So you do what you have to do.
It would sure be nice to add a corner that runs a 4.4 like Gilmore does who can chase the super fast receivers.
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16 hours ago, ProblChld32 said:
Agree to disagree, I could be wrong but I believe he had atleast one pass interference or defensive holding call every game he played. I will say he played adequate for a rookie.
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17 hours ago, EastStreet said:
I've seen some stats tossed around about "building" a team that can compete for a Super Bowl. I think some of what has been tossed out is "convenient" cherry picking, so decided to finish a little drill down that I started a few months ago. Anyway, just the facts below.
In short, I've looked at Super Bowl teams since 2000, and listed their unit and total ranks. I've also added QBR rank. Below is a summary of some key takeaways and conclusions. Below that, is an easy summary of total and unit tiers, and farther below is the raw data capsules of each team. I've used tiers rather than averages as I think the distribution if far more educational than a simple average (which will hide/blend outliers). I also don't discriminate in W or L in the SB, only that they made it to the SB.
Warning: The factual information contained below might be too much for some (especially fanboys). If you are afraid of facts, or think stats are unimportant, please ignore this thread and spare the rest from anecdotal throw up.
Key Takeaways in general on SB contender data:
1. Having a QB with a Tier 1 QBR is by far the biggest commonality of Super Bowl contenders. 30 of 38 teams had Tier 1 (top 10) QBRs. QBR is far more important than passing YPG, rushing YPG, or any D total or unit stat.
2. Balance in O and D is best, but O is significantly more important. 33 of 38 teams where above the median in Total O, while only 24 of 38 were above the median in Total D.
3. Passing O vs Rushing O was very similar, but Passing O had a slight edge in importance.
4. Passing D vs Rushing D was similar compared to the median, but T1 Rushing Ds were far more prevelant.Colts Current Rank and Contender Comparison:
1. Zero teams have played in a SB with our current Total O and Pass O rank
2. Only 2 of 38 (5%) teams have played in a SB with our current QBR rank or lower. Those QBs were Peyton and Big Ben.
3. Our Rush O is as good or equal to 63% of SB contenders
4. Our Total D is as good or equal to 39% of SB contenders and T2
5. Our Pass D is as good or equal to 24% of SB contenders and T4
6. Our Run D is as good as or equal to 53% of SB contenders and T1Conclusion / Recommendation
1. QB is by far the most important thing to address (draft or FA) based on our current rank in QBR and Passing 0.
2. Passing D is the second biggest need although almost a quarter of SB teams had the same or worse Tier rank. DT please.
3. Total D while slightly below the SB contender median, was still T2 (current year)
3, Our Rush O and Rush D are both Tier 1, and well within SB contender performance (50+%).Tier Definition
Tier 1: 1-10 Good/Great
Tier 2: 11-16 AMA (Above Median / Average)
Tier 3: 17-22 BMA (Below Median / Average)
Tier 4: 23-32 Bad/HorribleDistribution of 38 SB team rankings from 2000-2018
Total O/Pass O/Rush O/Total D/Pass D/Rush D/ QBR
T1: 21 / 19 / 18 / 22 / 11 / 23 / 30
T2: 12 / 9 / 7 / 2 / 12 / 4 / 2
T3: 4 / 5 / 5 / 8 / 6 / 8 / 4
T4: 1 / 5 / 8 / 6 / 9 / 3 / 2Colts Current Rank / Tier / # SB Contenders equal to or below / % of SB teams equal to or worse
Total O: 25th / T4 / 0 / 0%
Pass O: 30th / T4 / 0 / 0%
Rush O: 7th / T1 / 24 / 63%
Total D: 16th / T2 / 15 / 39%
Pass D: 23rd / T4 / 9 / 24%
Rush D: 7th / T1 / 20 / 53%
QBR: 20th / T3 / 2 / 5%Team specific data.
TO=Total Offense, PO=Pass Offense, RO=Rush Offense, TD=Total Defense, PD=Pass Defense, RD=Rush Offense
TO, PO, RO, TD, PD, and RD are all team/unit ranks 1-32. QBR is an individual rank (1-32) with the exception of two years when a team had 2 QBs play 6+ games each (in which case QBR is averaged).
2018W (NE) TO 5 (PO 8/RO 5), TD 21 (PD 22/RD 11), QBR 9
2018L (LAR) TO 2 (PO 5/RO 3), TD 19 (PD 14/RD 23), QBR 10
2017W (PH) TO 7 (PO 13/RO 3), TD 4 (PD 17/RD 1), QBR 1
2017L (NE) TO 1 (PO 2/RO 10), TD 29 (PD 30/RD 20), QBR 3
2016W (NE ) TO 4 (PO 4/RO 7), TD 8 (PD 12/RD 4), QBR 2
2016L (ATL) TO 2 (PO 3/RO 5), TD 25 (PD 28/RD 17), QBR 1
2015W (DEN) TO 16 (PO 14/RO 17), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 3), QBR 25
2015L (CAR) TO 11 (PO 24/RO 2), TD 6 (PD 11/RD 4), QBR 9
2014W (NE) TO 11 (PO 9/RO 18), TD 13 (PD 17/RD 9), QBR 3
2014L (SEA) TO 9 (PO 27/RO 1), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 3), QBR 6
2013W (SEA) TO 17 (PO 1/RO 4), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 8), QBR 7
2013L (DEN) TO 1 (PO 26/RO 15), TD 19 (PD 27/RD 7), QBR 2
2012W (BAL) TO 16 (PO 15/RO 11), TD 17 (PD 17/RD 20), QBR 18
2012L (SF) TO 11 (PO 23/RO 4), TD 3 (PD 4/RD 4), QBR 8*
2011W (NYG) TO 8 (PO 5/RO 32), TD 27 (PD 29/RD 19), QBR 9
2011L (NE) TO 2 (PO 2/RO 20), TD 31 (PD 31/RD 17), QBR 3
2010W (GB) TO 9 (PO 5/RO 24), TD 5 (PD 5/RD 18), QBR 6
2010L (PIT) TO 14 (PO 14/RO 11), TD 2 (PD 12/RD 1), QBR 7
2009W (NO) TO 1 (PO 2/RO 6), TD 25 (PD 26/RD 21), QBR 1
2009L (IN) TO 9 (PO 4/RO 32), TD 18 (PD 14/RD 24), QBR 2
2008W (PIT) TO 22 (PO 17/RO 23), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 2), QBR 26
2008L (AZ) TO 4 (PO 2/RO 32), TD 19 (PD 22/RD 16), QBR 3
2007W (NYG) TO 16 (PO 21/RO 4), TD 7 (PD 11/RD 8), QBR 18
2007L (NE) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 13), TD 4 (PD 6/RD 10), QBR 1
2006W (IN) TO 3 (PO 2/RO 18), TD 21 (PD 2/RD 32), QBR 1
2006L (CHI) TO 15 (PO 14/RO 15), TD 5 (PD 11/RD 6), QBR 19
2005W (PIT) TO 15 (PO 24/RO 5), TD 4 (PD 16/RD 3), QB-R 3
2005L (SEA) TO 2 (PO 13/RO 3), TD 17 (PD 25/RD 5), QB-R 4
2004W (NE) TO 7 (PO 11/RO 7), TD 9 (PD 17/RD 6), QB-R 9
2004L (PH) TO 9 (PO 7/RO 24), TD 10 (PD 12/RD 16), QB-R 4
2003W (NE) TO 17 (PO 9/RO 27), TD 7 (PD 15/RD 4), QB-R 10
2003L (CAR) TO 16 (PO 18/RO 7), TD 8 (PD 9/RD 11), QB-R 14
2002W (TB) TO 24 (PO 15/RO 27), TD 1 (PD 1/RD 6), QB-R 3
2002L (OAK) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 18), TD 11 (PD 23/RD 3), QB-R 2
2001W (NE) TO 19 (PO 22/RO 13), TD 24 (PD 24/RD 19), QB-R 6
2001L (LAR) TO 1 (PO 1/RO 5), TD 3 (PD 11/RD 3), QB-R 1
2000W (BAL) TO 16 (PO 22/RO 5), TD 2 (PD 8/RD 1), QB-R 20
2000L (NYG) TO 13 (PO 13/RO 11), TD 5 (PD 16/RD 2), QB-R 12
Note, "QB Rating" was used in place of QBR for years prior to 2006 (ESPN created QBR in advance of the 2006 season)
Note2, I did those over a few sittings, and eyeballs going cross towards the end.... so, let me know if you find any errors or have any questions.
So we really need a good passing QB.
And i am hoping for a Fletcher Cox Jr., a Stephone Gilmore like CB, and a Michael Thomas like WR.
CB, we are counting on you and your staff to excel.-
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1 hour ago, Pacergeek said:
Yes. Exactly. Rock Ya Sin was a way better pick than DK Metcalf or Deebo Samuel.
Someone is lost.
So you are saying we should have kept our first rd pick and taken one of those two.
Well i guess we will see going forward how Rock and those 2 compare.
So if picks 16-40 usually grade about the same, why would one expect players taken in that group to be way better over the others? Or why would one expect that any or all would prove their end worth their rookie season? That would be nutts!
In the meantime, Ballard will pick someone at pick 34 with that extra pick from trading back, that just might tip the scales one way or another.
This stuff isn't supposed to be that hard to comprehend.-
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Did Ballard create to good of a locker room
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Thank you for this straight forward, enlightened post.
Ballard wasn't giving GM Speak when he pointed out that in his learned opinion we were missing something in the lockerroom. We were missing some leadership and attitude. OK. He and his leadership team likely have been talking and agreeing about seeing this as the season went on. And how ridiculous that a player instantly loses those abilities when he isn't on the field.
JERK wasn't the right word, but the point was correct according to our GM.
A Reggie White could come in as a FA and make an immediate impact on the culture. lol.
I think building what is needed will happen if CB keeps drafting his high character types.