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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
In Andrew's first 3 seasons you must've been really whooping it up then because he was Very Good to Great in those 3 seasons. I guess 1 injury prone season and the whooping stops? 11-5 3 seasons in a row and a Championship Game appearance + a season with 40 TD passes I guess didn't show anything but yet Cam has 1 Great season = last season and he's the greatest thing since sliced bread? Cam did go 7-8-1 in 2014 by the way.
I was very happy about winning since I didn't expect it that soon. I have been very concerned about Luck from day one. Yes, he can be brilliant but then he comes back and plays putrid lay. Those records were mostly built on going 6-0 against the very weak division. There is nothing wrong with that but it is a reason. Yes, Cam struggled at times, I expect that from all young QBs including Luck. But, Cam kept getting better and it built into last year and he has risen to a very high level. I just don't see that improvement in Luck and last year he regressed before the injuries. I am not sure that Luck is one bit better today than he was in the first game he played for the Colts. Yes, that was very good but in all that time, I don't see any indication that he gets rid of the ball more quickly, finds secondary receivers and checks down to them and he still doesn't slide or protect himself on the field. His accuracy is still suspect. He has very good skill players around him but it is true that the rest of the team has lagged way behind them. That is management and they shouldhavebeeb drafting offensive linemen in that very first draft to protect him. I have seen many young QBs ruined that way and I am not sure that we will ever see the Luck that could have been because of it. I am rooting for him big time but I have doubts that we will ever see more in Luck than we already have. All QBs have flaws, no one expects perfection but I do expect to see hard work and an effort to correct those flaws. We see that in Newton and Wilson but, so far, not so much in Andrew Luck. I don't mean to crush your bubble about your hero. These are just an old man's opinions from 60 years of watching the Colts. I am not demanding 4000 yards and 40 TDs. I am just looking for improvement in these basic things.
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Just now, Ollonesomeme said:
I think the future is very bright for all of them. With that being said, if they are that good it will be hard to keep them all after three years. Let them be great, we will worry about re-signing them when the time comes.
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I think the future is very bright for all of them. With that being said, if they are that good it will be hard to keep them all after three years. Let them be great, we will worry about rye-signing them when the time comes.
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6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Feel free to be your negative self. I hope you enjoy it.
When the Colts get a few wins, the O-Line is adequate and Luck starts playing like the QB we all want him to be and the coaching staff shows it can make in game adjustments, I will be whooping it up with all of you.
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9 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
That is your opinion, not fact. Why do you call yourself a Colts fan when all you have to say or think brings nothing but negativity? I think you do it just to be argumentative.
9 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:That is your opinion, not fact. Why do you call yourself a Colts fan when all you have to say or think brings nothing but negativity? I think you do it just to be argumentative.
Of course it is my opinion. Everything on here is opinion unless a quote is given. I think everything in that post was pie in the sky dreaming with no basis in reality. I am a Colts fan and I have been for over 60 Years. I do not believe Andrew Luck can walk on water and I can see serious flaws in his game at times. He can look great one week against a really good team and stink the place up the next week against a poor team. I would take the under on ANY team winning two Super Bowls in the next ten years. I am not a fan of the current coach or general manager and I don't think the Colts go anywhere until they are gone. Do I have to wave Pom poems or lead cheers to be on this board. You are welcome to put me on your ignore list. I am sorry that I am not the kind of fan you can understand.
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7 hours ago, CR91 said:
1.we will win two super bowls in ten years
2.dorsett will have 1000 total yards before moncrief has 1000 receiving yards
3.josh fergurson will have 1000 totals yards before gore gets 1000 rushing yards
4.moncrief will get 10 tds before hilton
5.maggitt and thompson will have more combined sacks then mathis and cole
6.patrick robinson will have more ints then vontae
7.luck will break peyton's single season yardage and passing tds record
8.dorsett will see more touches in the backfield then turbin
9.dwayne allen will be our first 1000 yard TE since dallas clark
10.someone will break the 81 curse
Under. Way under on all of this. The. Colts as they are currently made up, managed and coached are more likely to never get to the SB than win two of them. Luck won't get close to those records of Peyton's.
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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I'll make a wager with you right now that Andrew has a better season statistically over Cam regarding more Passing Yards, more Completions, and more TD passes. I will also say Carolina will not go back to the SB. They were a 1 year fluke.
I won't take that bet because Andrew will have better stats. He has to for this team to win. cam doesn't have to throw for 4000 yards and 40 TDs to win and he shouldn't. Luck has far better skill players than Cam. It is hard to get back to the SB but that team was no fluke, I also think that they are much better than our Colts.
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18 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
At least he faces his problems instead of pouting like a child when he loses. Luck didn't have the luxury of joining a team that was as good as Newton. The thing is these are Colt fans in here and not your everyday NFL fans. So even bringing up what other NFL might or might not do is a mute issue as far as this forum is concerned. Had Luck been drafted by Seattle or Carolina you would be saying the same thing about who ever the Colts drafted. There, see how that works?
The Colts were one year removed from the playoffs when Luck joined, the Panthers had been terrible for a long time. The Panthers built a good defense but not many skill players for Cam. Cam doesn't like to lose. I don't see anything wrong with that. If those two teams had drafted Luck, they wouldn't have been as good as they have been. With Wilson, it is a matter of fitting in. Cam is just on a higher level than Luck in my opinion. Perhaps Andrew can close that gap but I see Cam improving too. Luck has yet to show me that improvement and he may have regressed a bit but I am willing to blame that in injury for now. This year will show a great deal. I am rooting for Andrew in a big way.
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19 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:
You just can't be serious.
Trade Luck for Newton right now, you bet I am serious. We get the current MVP who goy to the SB last year. I would pull that trigger in a second. Carolina would not make that trade even if you tossed in a first round draft pick. Cam has never had the offensive weapons Luck has had from the start. They have built a very good defense around him. If you make that trade, the Colts are greatly improved on day one. The Panthers take a step back. Make no mistake about it, Cam was the deserving MVP because HE led that team to the SB. I do understand all of the love for Luck on this board and I share much of it but I hope I can still see the flaws and recognize just how good some other players are. This will be the argument of this era. I don't think some folks here would pick Newton if he wins two SBs and two more MVPs. He could do that if he stays healthy. I will be cheering and rooting for Andrew just like all of you.
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Just now, Ollonesomeme said:
I would take Newton over luck right now and around the NFL I would not be alone. I think Luck is an above average NFL QB. I do not see him being MVP anytime soon if ever. I think he has serious flaws but that doesn't bother me. The fact that he can't seem to correct those flaws does. Why does it take five years to learn how to slide? Why can't he learn to get the ball out of hands quicker? Why can't he be more accurate? Fix those things just a little and I will be much more positive about him.
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On July 7, 2016 at 2:48 AM, RockThatBlue said:
Newton is good, but he is absolutely not better than a 100% healthy Luck.
You say some real ridiculous stuff about Luck. I don't know if you're just a hater of Luck or what, but I can't recall the last time you said anything positive about him.
I would trade for Newton over luck right now and around the NFL I would not be alone. I think Luck is an above average NFL QB. I do not see him being MVP anytime soon if ever. I think he has serious flaws but that doesn't bother me. The fact that he can't seem to correct those flaws does. Why does it take five years to learn how to slide? Why can't he learn to get the ball out of hands quicker? Why can't he be more accurate? Fix those things just a little and I will be much more positive about him.
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22 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
That is correct, which is why I was confused on why Grigson chose him. He is a player I really like, but we needed a player that could start immediately like Cody Whitehair. The future is supposed to be now with Luck, but it seems the future keeps being delayed. Hopefully the team can do well, it couldn't be worse than last year. I love most of the players we have, so I should get interested when camp rolls around as long as there's some progress shown.
Why couldn't it be worse than last year? Every team in the South improved and many experts believe 2 will pass the Colts. I do not think that but it would not surprise me if they are .500 or a little under. This team is going through a major overhaul.
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18 minutes ago, TheGreatManning18Fan said:
Newton above Lucknis laughable, The pressure he (Cam) faced in the Superbowl is the pressure LUCK has faced in just about every game and not to mention Cams defense has bailed him out a bunch of games.
Newton is far, far ahead of Luck. MVP means something and he is going to win more of them and get to more SBs.
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1 minute ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
I go with stubborn. He is trying to do more than even he should try to do. It was 3 years of the former, and then got beat up and sat down via injury last year. If he does 7 step drops and holds the ball > 2.9 seconds average this year, then I'll say it is desire (or lack of). His football I.Q. is already high. But will he let common football I.Q. reign over making the big play? Will he get down and slide vs getting that extra yard or two?
The Colts franchise and Luck's career depend upon him getting it right sooner rather than later. He knows this.
Well said and you could certainly be correct.
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1 hour ago, CR91 said:
You would rather have flacco Ryan rivers eli right now over luck?
Not necessarily but I rate them ahead of him right now. Those players are getting older. That is why I said this year only. He will never get ahead of Flaco and Eli unless he gets to the SB and perhaps not then.
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46 minutes ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
Not sure, It can be learned, though. After being in the league' a couple years, the speed of the game slows down. After getting beat up by D lineman by waiting for receivers to get open, you get a 'clock in your head' and learn to get it out and throw to where your receivers 'are supposed to be' {not that they always will be, but I digress} and not wait on non existent windows to open.
As he learns pre-snap read D better and adjusts calls to it (and with the Kelly, protections as well) his release time will decrease becasue he'll do 3 or 5 step drops, and the balls has to come out. Hopefully the receiver the pre-snap read showed had the least coverage/best match up. Intelligent QB's can learn that.
You would think that a player getting his brains beat out every week would already have learned that after four years. Younger QBs have already learned. That either means Luck is just stubborn about it or he does not have the football IQ to make that change. We will see but frankly I don't anticipate any change at all.
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11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
So, the question becomes, why does Luck have these problems.
My argument is that it's not because Andrew Luck is a "slow thinker".....
Come up with the answer that you like, but I just don't think slow thinker is a logical answer. Not for a guy with a photographic memory.
Photographic memory has nothing to do with it. I knew doctors who played bridge but could not play well or keep up with people who played faster and better than they did. We're the intelligent? Of course they were. Andrew is also brilliant, I am sure. Does that mean that he will ever make football decisions with the speed of Peyton, Brady, Brees or the like. I have seen no indication that he I'll ever be able to do that. I do not think that it can be coached.
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18 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:
A slow thinker?
Have you read none of the stories about Luck and his mind while a Colt?!?
What do you really think the chances that Luck's problems are because he's a "slow thinker".....
Why do you over-think this?
Luck's problem come simply because he tries to do too much. If he doesn't make a play, our offense literally stops. He tires too hard. I'm not saying Luck doesn't have other problems, he does. Frankly, he's been a big disappointment to me, and that includes even before last year.
But a "slow thinker"...... wow.... that one has never been on my radar.....
P.S. --- Seattle's line may not be great, but it's dramatically better than Indy's. Always has been...
Football wise, the original poster has a point. Luck does not seem capable of getting the ball out quickly with accuracy. That will be denied by many fans but if you watch him play and take all of that punishment, how can it be denied? Yes, I know the line was not good but a bunch of rookies is not going to make a big change there. Luck will still be slow getting rid of the ball and he will still be taking big hits because of it.
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I do not think that Luck has ever been as highly valued across the NFL as he is here. Perhaps that is how it should be. I have never ranked Luck in the top ten QBs in the league and I certainly don't now. He is coming off of a separation of his throwing shoulder. It might be mid season or longer before we see what we really have now. Who are the ten QBs that I have ahead of him? This is for this season only and there is no order to the list.
Rodgers
Big Ben
Eli Manning
Brees
Brady
Rivers
Matt Ryan from Atlanta
Flaco
Wilson
Newton
I would not argue with anyone who have Winston And Mariota ahead of based on rookie contracts and potential. This could all change quickly if Luck comes out and is obviously 100%. I do not see him being rated ahead of any of the SB QBs even then. Just my feet are on the ground opinion. I see lots of flaws in his game. I saw where someone said he is a slow thinker. Not in real life, of course but in football thinking it might be about right. I do not see him ever being in Peyton's or any of the best 5 QBs in that catagory.
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2 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:
2015: Gore almost eclipsed 1000 yards with: An O-Line that wasn't very good. Defenses stacking the box, daring Hasselbeck to throw. Pep was still the OC for half the season.
2016: Upgraded O-line. Upgraded O-Line coach. Upgraded OC. Upgraded QB (since Luck is back).
Gore's vision, toughness, and ability to fit through small (almost non-existent) holes is uncanny. Gore will run over 1,000 yards this season.
I seriously doubt that. In my opinion, they were very lucky to get what they did last year. I do not think that he will come close to that again.
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3 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:
Hopefully you are joking.
No, I am not joking. The AFC South is vastly improved and the Colts have trouble being more than .500 outside if the division so it the go 4-2 or 3-3 in the division, getting more than eight wins could ba a problem. Lots of new faces to work in and I could see a slow start.
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32 minutes ago, SilentHill said:
11-5 at worst,Wow. I am concerned that he won't get to eight wins with the Colts this year.
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3 hours ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:
Just preparing luck for the future dynasty and 3 straight SB wins. No QB is undefeated in SB right or am I wrong?
Bradshaw?
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I totally agree 100%. I have no idea why he would Post we didn't belong there just because we got blown out in 1 game against one of the greatest teams of all-time on their home field. That is why I had to question what the Poster was saying. Yes we definitely deserved to be there and we were clearly playing like the 2nd best team in the Conference at the time. We took the Broncos out at MileHigh and I could care less if Peyton was healthy or not - he played the whole game and we won fair and square. Their Defense was healthy and Von Miler played and Andrew still put up 24 points. To short change our Playoff run is really someone just being a hater IMO. We went 11-5 and Andrew had MVP type numbers all season long. Like I said, had we played anyone else we would've won the AFC and I have no doubt about it, we just haven't been able to beat the Patriots. That score also was very inflated, it was only 17-7 at Half and they started to pour it on in the 2nd Half like they always do against most teams. Once it got to 31-7 anyone could tell we just didn't care at that point and were going through the motions because our team knew it was over. Of course the Patriots kept playing like it was a tight game just to pour it on like the classless bird brains they are. There have been many Very Good teams like us get beat badly in Championships games like the Bills over Raiders 51-3 in the 1990 AFC Championship Game, Giants over Vikings in the 2000 NFC Championship Game 41-0, and last season the Panthers beat the Cards 49-15 as well - that doesn't make any of those teams less deserving of their Final 4 trip. I guess the Cards didn't deserve to be there last season? Crap happens as we played a terrible game and was turning it over way too much to hang with Tommy and company. By the way out of the examples I used the team we lost too won the SB, the others did not. We lost to a Top 10 team of all-time!
I was only commenting that New England was on another level. Of course the Colt's won their way there. My emphasis was meant to be ont the blow out. Perhaps I did not state it well. All teams deserve to be where ever winning takes them.
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