[If Manning Is Healthy, Trade Down Is A Must!]

I'm going to be nice since you admitted that you would get ridiculed but the image of Tebow ever taking a snap for the Colts makes me want to burn my Colts jersey.

Hahaha I hear you loud and clear! I'm not saying have him as our future QB unless somehow manning manages to transform him drastically! I'm saying use him right now as a short yard back (how many 3rd and 1's have we watched our team struggle with?) then trade him for great value like reid did with Kolb since learning under peyton would definately improve his stock! Ultimately though I would like to see manning suck up his pride and mentor Luck since after watching irsays press conference seems to be who we are going to be picking up.

One thing that scares me is irsay mentioning the salary cap in that press conference. With peyton eating up what is it like 28 million if we keep him? To me that sounds like he is ready to get rid of him and move on! If we just cut manning and don't get anything for him we will be the laughing stalk of the league!

[If Manning Is Healthy, Trade Down Is A Must!]

I know I will get ridiculed for saying this but I really think if we could get Tebow to learn behind Peyton and use our first round pick to build on our defense or pick up someone like richardson at rb we would be doing pretty good. Tebow could fix what has plauged us for years in our short yard game right off the bat and his persona fits our organization to the T. At the very least with him playing behind Peyton his stock would rise tremendously while we are using our draft picks to revamp the rest of our team and we would most likely be able to pull an andy reid and trade him for a lot more than he is worth!

[If Manning Is Healthy, Trade Down Is A Must!]

This pick cannot be based on Manning's personal feelings. Sure he's meant and done more for this team than anyone, but this has to be a business decision and not an emotional decision.

I understand that it is a buisness decision. I don't say this because of emotion I say it in the best interest of winning. I fully believe that Manning gives us the best opportunity to win another title in the next few years over anyone you pick in the draft. However, despite what the analysts on TV say, if we pick Luck and Manning is unhappy I think this will effect his play a great deal simply because what makes him great is his mind and I feel he would be distracted. Not only that but I think it would also effect how he mentors the qb of the future. And in the long run I would rather have an RG3 mentored by Peyton than Luck behind a disgruntled Manning. Either way you go about it I think you still keep Manning because we can get a lot of value out of him even after a few more years.

[If Manning Is Healthy, Trade Down Is A Must!]

RG3 might turn into a great QB, in fact, for his sake I hope he does. Im not so jaded to wish failure on the kid (like many here do with Luck), but im really just not convinced. It worries me that he's never read a defense and that he's had every single play called for him in his college career. Could he eventually learn that? Sure, but I would rather not take that chance that he won't be able to grasp it and just have to rely on athletic ability. We've seen that go wrong in the NFL too many times.

That's one of the strongest reasons I would take Luck over RG3. Luck is fed three plays and has a fourth option of choosing his own. This reminds me of Peyton and why he is the best. It makes me think he can grasp the colts system better. Supposedly RG3 is also very bright but that doesn't always transfer into football bright. I just think if he had that same ability Baylor would be utilizing it more like Stanford does with Luck.

[If Manning Is Healthy, Trade Down Is A Must!]

Balzer I think RGIII is closer to Luck in potential than you may think. Its not a big dropoff between them and RGIII has just enough potential if not more than Luck. And seeing how successful Cam Newton was his first year, I dont think RGIII would be that bad if he had to step in if Manning were hurt next season.

I just made this thread simply on that its hard for me to decide on who I want at QB for the future of this team between Luck and RGIII so why not trade down and let the decision become easier while getting extra picks in the deal to revamp this team? It just makes too much sense to do this if Manning is healthy. Again if Manning is not healthy going into the year, then Luck has to be the pick since he is the most pro ready QB in years. But having RGIII sit behind Manning for a year or 2 could make Griffin scary good.

I understand exactly what you're saying because I find myself doing the same thing. RG3 has the potential to be freaky good in the nfl and I definately wouldn't be upset if we drafted him. The thing is there's soo many experts out there that know much more than I do about evaluating a qb that say Luck is the best thing since sliced bread so I think you gotta go with him. I think the only way you don't go with him is if Manning says he won't play in indy if you take Luck. If thats the case I think you either trade down and pick up RG3 since he is more of a project for manning or you pick up Luck and trade him to some team for the whole farm! Like to Dallas for ware and bryant.