Doomsday
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Not sure what you are trying to help your uncle do, but I am sure that is illegal in at least 48 states.
By the time he gets finished with that horse, he's gonna have a semi-colon ... and that brings us back to punctuation and grammar.
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lol what? Did i unintentionally reference that movie
? I haven't seen it in like 8 years. Oh, my bad bro.
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Good god people i just read all this and wow! The time it takes to turn on a player on this oboard is about .1seconds! Rayford was a stud for a rookie from thr CFL. No need to bash the guy, he did his job fine as a reserve.
The original Karate Kid! Great movie!
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Read on ESPN.com that we got a 2015 conditional pick not 2014
The trade is as follows:
Dallas has the first 5 weeks of the season to determine if they want to keep Rayford on their team. If they decide to keep him after that, they owe the Colts their 2015 7th round draft choice. If they cut him before the 5 weeks are up, they owe Indy nothing.
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Per the lead writer for the Cowboys official website, Mickey Spagnola, the trade goes like this:
Cowboys get a free 5 week look at Rayford. If at the end of 5 weeks, he is still on the team's 53 man roster, Dallas will give a 7th round draft pick in 2015 to the Colts.
A Dallas area media guy who used to be a scout for the Cowboys says this about Rayford:
Broaddus .. .he was a bad scheme fit for the Colts. He's 6'7 270 lbs. He looked terrible in coverage, but when he was allowed to just rush he showed up. He put Joe Thomas in bad spots. He battled him. The problem he has he can't bull rush. He has to get around the edge and then use his long arms to reach back to the QB. As good as Selvie was in the Dolphins game, Rayford had 4 games like that. 36 inch arms. He almost blocked 4 kicks in preseason with his long arms. He got his sack on Pugh because he's arms were a half a foot longer. He's starting as a designated pass rusher. Maybe someone you bring in on 3rd and 15.
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He also pointed out that Rayford did all his damage in the pre-season against other teams second and in some cases third string guys.
Well, I do know that one of Rayford's sacks was against Justin Pugh, the Giants first round pick and their starting RT (and the Cowboys first opponent this year), so ALL of his sacks weren't against 2nd or 3rd stringers. Still, Pugh is a Rookie and has some learning to do, I'm sure.
You're right though when you say Rayford did one thing well, and that is rush the QB. He was never going to be a complete OLB for you guys, and I don't blame the Colts at all for getting a conditional pick for the guy rather than just cut him loose for nothing. Cam is a much more complete OLB and while his pass rush isn't as good as Rayford's, every other aspect of his game (including special teams) was better for a 34 defense like the Colts.
It was a good move by your front office, plain and simple. It made no sense for them to keep a guy like Rayford. Had you still played in a 43, well it would have been a different story. But you don't and Cam made WAY more sense.
In any event, we are talking about guys that are like the 51st or 52nd players on a 53 man roster, so really, there's no reason to be out on the ledge about this anyway. Either of them will be lucky to even see any time on defense in the regular season.
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Thanks for the reasonable and well thought out post, but good luck trying to explain to people here about scheme fit. It is something largely ignored by many here.
Thanks man.
That is pretty much universal, I believe. On the message board I frequent, I spent half the summer trying to tell people that Anthony Spencer (6-4, 265) is way too big to play OLB in Monte Kiffin's Tampa 2 4-3 defense. They just couldn't grasp that Demarcus Ware at 6-5, 260 was an OLB last year and that this year we needed OLB's that are 6-1, 230.
It was frustrating to say the least.
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Cowboy fan here.
First off, this is a trade for a fringe roster player in all likelyhood, so nobody should get too upset or too excited about it.
Beyond that, it really is a trade that makes sense for both teams.
The Colts traded a guy who cost them nothing and showed a little something rushing the passer in the pre-season. Rayford was probably never going to stick on the Colts roster because frankly, he doesn't have the quickness or the lateral movement skills to play OLB in a 34 defense. He just doesn't. He's too long to change directions very well.
What Indy did was get a guy from San Francisco that was better suited to the duties of a 34 OLB. Someone who can drop and cover as well as rush the QB. He's a better fit for you guys. It makes perfect football sense.
Rayford, on the other hand, is a better fit at DE in Dallas' 43 scheme. He doesn't have to drop into coverage like he would in Indy. In Kiffin and Marinelli's defense, he can pin his ears back, and play the run on the way to the QB... which suits his physical skills much better than what he'd be doing for the Colts. So, while he would be a liability in some aspects in your defense, the Cowboys defense plays mainly to his strengths.
So, good move for your front office and a good move for Dallas' front office. A win-win situation, as they like to say.
Either way, Cam probably won't see the field much in Indy and Rayford probably won't see the field much in Dallas, so, as happens so often on Pro Football message boards... this seems to be a case of much ado about nothing.
Good luck this year guys... I absolutely love your new QB and envy you for being able to get him.
? I haven't seen it in like 8 years.
Caesar Rayford Traded
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Apparently, I was wrong about him not seeing the field very much. Jason Garrett said this about Caesar Rayford playing this week against the Giants, "He has to be a viable player for us in this game." I guess the Cowboys coaches (Garrett, Kiffin, and Marinelli) like him a lot more than I originally thought. I should have guessed it though or else they wouldn't have made the trade to bring him in just before the regular season.
So, it looks like not only is he going to be active for this game... but he's going to be getting snaps throughout the game. He apparently is going to get some snaps at DE and in nickel and dime packages, they might rush him from the DT spot in certain passing situations. Both Monte Kiffin and Rod Marinelli think that Rayford has natural pass rush ability, including from inside. His arms are so uncannily long (just about as long as Aldon Smith's) that it gives him a real advantage rushing the QB.
Both Kiffin and Marinelli are pretty good at finding defensive linemen, or more specifically pass rushers, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt until Caesar proves that he can't do it. Both coaches have a knack for finding good players on the line.
James Harrison wasn't drafted when he came out and was signed and cut 3 different times by the Steelers. He even played some in NFL Europe for the Rhine Fire before finally sticking on Pittsburgh's 53 man roster and learning enough to get playing time when Clark Haggins got hurt.
Rayford certainly wouldn't be the first guy to take a round-about route to being a good NFL player. Heck, Harrison was 27 before he became a starter for Pittsburgh.
Caesar probably won't end up doing that much in Dallas, but you never know. If there is any system that he fits in, it would be this Tampa-2 system.
It should be interesting to watch and see what he does. Some of the time, he will be going up against Justin Pugh (starting RT for the Giants), who Rayford has already gotten a sack against.