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Who gives a crap!!!!
First, off I was already typing that message before u said who gives a crap, drop it already, or whatever u said. in the previous post
Second, obviously everyone, including u, who kept responding gives a crap.
Third, if someone quotes me and is talking to me, I'm going to respond
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@Gavin I don't think Brown has bad abilities, I said he is a decent back, but I would like a back with more talent. I said I like Brown in some areas, mainly his ability to pick up pass rushers, he runs good screen pass plays too, so far every time he gets a catch behind the line he turns it into a good play,but thats only when he catches the ball, he drops wide open passes, and he is playing on a pass first team, u can't have that in our type of offense.
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Uh, no. 185 yards rushing for a year is pretty bad for anyone.
And about only getting 40 carries: I could say the same thing for Donald Brown. In 2011, he only averaged about 8 carries per game. Is that his fault the coaches didnt give him the ball more? If he had the standard 20 carries per game, he would've averaged about 95 yards per game and about 1520 yards And 12 TDs for the season.
That doesn't sound too bad, does it?
Joesph Addai was our starter, Brown just split carries with him, and Brown took over after Addai's injuries. And even if he got the league average carries u think Brown would've done just as good as MJD, and McCoy? Really, now who is over exaggerating? What ur saying is with 160 more carries, Brown would've had more yards and the exact same number of TD's as Ray Rice, sorry but no, Brown doesn't even compare to them.
What I was getting at was if Brown and Hart split carries instead of Addai, and Brown, Hart would've had a better season, based off his play.
How is giving Browns fricken stats for this year about where he is heading for his yards per game my big criteria?? Really just stop replying to me please, ur not getting anything I'm saying obviously and now ur putting words in my mouth. It's all important, YPG, YPC, fumbles, it all deals with rushing does it not? Isn't that what we are talking about? Rushing, ok then, so giving one simple stat about where Brown is heading, doesn't mean thats my criteria, it's all criteria. Hart had better YPC in 2010, and only had about 12 less yards per game.
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@Mouthfire For a 3rd string runningback thats bad, really, wth is ur idea of good for a 3rd string back then 600 yards? Well we should definitely cut Brown then if thats the case because Brown gets around the same amount of rush yards. A 3rd string runningback who didn't see much time, because Brown and Addai split time, which Brown only had 38 yards a game compared to a 3rd stringer who had only 12 less, who played in less games, less carries, better YPC, whatever, just whatever, clearly Hart, A 3RD STRING BACK, was on track to do just as well, if not better than Brown, and Brown can't even match Harts stats now. With ur reasoning about 3rd string runningbacks getting 185 yards is terrible, then there will be a ton of free agents, cause some 2nd string backs don't even get that.
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For a 3rd string runningback?!?! Who only got what 40 carries?!?! Are u kidding me?? Pretty sure 185 yards is good for someone who was fighting for 3rd string on the depth chart, overall he did better than Brown who ur saying is so good. So if ur going to say Hart sucked then might as well say Brown sucks too
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@ColtsGuy Those really weren't counter arguments, sorry to burst ur bubble. Sorry, but isn't this post about THIS years draft? We need a replacement for Wayne? Who will be back next year, and probably the year after that. Justice is doing fine, we don't need to replace him yet either. Freeney, he will probably re-sign, why wouldn't he? Zibby's not good at all??? Why did Pagano want him then? He played for the Ravens, under Pagano, who have had a top 5 D forever.
@Gavin A whole 4? Thats 3 more than Brown, with a worse line, what about the other questions I asked, a lot more than Brown would be the answer.
@ColtsGuy Yea they do have a worse line, How many times was McCoy hit last year? And Weeden has been hit almost every play this year, I don't see how u say our O-line is worse than the Browns, they might as well not even have anyone in front of Weeden that's how bad it is. If u disagree, u haven't seen any part of their games.Or ur just trying to talk down ur own team, just to talk up one player to try and prove me wrong, which isn't happening, because every football fan knows the Browns have the most pitiful line in the league.
I'm done fighting all these battles with u guys, waste of time since none of us have control over it anyway, I'll just let u guys deal with ur perfect runningback who will once again, not do anything this year.
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By the way having far less carries, should mean that Brown should have way better YPC numbers than Richardson, which he is only up by .1, so if ur arguing saying Brown is as good as Richardson, that argument is way off compared to the stats u just gave. What ur stats show is that Brown is almost half as good as Richardson, half as good as a ROOKIE? Even worse, a ROOKIE with a WORSE O-LINE than us?? I mean if that's what u want on our team then ok, but I for one do not want that.
Does anybody know if Tyrann Mathieu is still eligible for the draft, even after being kicked off the team? If so is he entering or finishing his degree?
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How many TD's does Richardson have compared to Brown? Receptions? Total yards? Ok, check that, get back to me.
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@ColtsGuy510 Keep telling urself that, if he is sooo good, tell me why every year we draft a runningback?
We need a safety? Yet we have Bethea and Zibby, who are both good, don't even blame them for that loss to Jacksonville, that was all Sergio Brown.
An outside linebacker, but we have Mathis, Freeney, and Hughes, Freeney, and Mathis who are getting older, yet we don't need to replace them yet.
DT which I agree, and said that should be our #1 pick, Guard, which I said should be our 2nd pick.
Defensive End, sort of agree, but rather have Ball and a receiver, Moala will be fine if we get a good DT, and Redding already is good
Tackle, which we just traded for in Justice, and Drafted 2 years ago in Castonzo who are both doing just fine? i think we are good there.
We need a #1 receiver but we have Wayne for about 3 more years?
A Cornerback, which we traded for Davis and we have Powers. Nope Sorry still stand by what I said, trade our first pick to gain a later 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick, and a 3rd round pick, draft a DT, a Guard, Then Ball, Then a receiver.
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Are you so sure that the problem is DB?
See my analysis of DB and the offensive line in the other thread. DB gets hit being the line of scrimmage about 35% of the time, compared to about 20% as with missy other teams. That's almost twice as much. Even more telling is that when he does get to the LOS cleanly, he performs almost as well as Adrian Peterson, and sometimes even better.
So, are you really sure that DB is the problem?
Had to make a new account cause my other one ran out of posts for today....
Yes I'm sure, although we do need a guard for our O-Line which would help our run game, Brown doesn't do anything in the redzone for us, he never breaks 100 yards rushing in a game, he doesn't break many tackles, he drops open passes. He can pass block better than our other backs, which is nice, I'm not saying discard him completely, but he is not starter material. I believe Montee Ball has a lot of potential, and if we can draft him in the 3rd round, and balance out our offense a little more, then we can get things in gear and run this division again. Like I said, Brown isn't terrible, he is decent, but I want a GOOD runningback, I don't want to deal with DECENT with a new QB in here, Peyton had a run game when he came here, look how he turned us around. I say if Brown doesn't break 900 yards this season and get at least 6 TD's rushing we draft Ball if he is available. Hard to do with our guards, but other runningbacks do it, Richardson will get over 1000 yards rushing I bet, and look at his O-line, they are 10 times worse than us.
Manti Te'o
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First off, i didn't start the argument. Second off i looked at other posts about brown and u saying I'll be bombarded is ridiculous I've seen about 12 people who says the same thing as me which is brown is ok, but he is not starting material. Third I'm wrong on an opinion ok whatever then. Fourth u don't have to worry about me starting off in this forum badly cause this is the last time I'll get on here. I'm not dealing with this everyday. Fifth Mouthfire what part of please quit replying to me aren't u understanding? I really don't care anymore. I don't care about ur projections about Browns stats.