Colts Contacted Maybin

[Coltsman1788]

Interesting that they continue to express interest in defensive linemen in light of their recent signings.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2011/08/source-jets-make-offer-to-former-first-round-pick-aaron-maybin

[Rich Cannon]

I wouldn't take a chance on Maybin personally, he could pan out but we honestly don't have time for experimental players that can't contribute right away. We have a 4-5 year window before we loose Manning.

[Smonroe]

Looks like he's going to the Jets.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/17/aaron-maybin-expected-to-sign-with-jets-wednesday/

[ruksak]

It seems obvious to me at this point that the Colts wish to bring in and try out as many D-lineman as our cap will allow during the pre. These guys are being signed to smallish 1 year deals that could easily be cut with little regard. This is a FA open tryout session and this bodes well for Indy. The stubborn philosophy of Indy defense is being broken.

This is quite telling as to the mindset of the FO.

They feel confident in their strength in the secondary.

They recognize that Freeny/Mathis are pass rushing specialists that pose a liability to run defense. Their quick burst into the pocket betrays their respective gaps. As well, their small size is a liability against the run.

The Colts want variance in their D-line packages unlike anything we've ever seen in the Polian era.

I have a really really good feeling that finally we are being served an aggressive proactive defense for the 2011 season.

[natelombardi]

bring in maybin u never know...were keeping hughes why not

[ruksak]

bring in maybin u never know...were keeping hughes why not

Aaron Maybin is expected to sign with Jets Wednesday

You would know this if you read the thread, more specifically, the post just 2 above yours.

C'mon man.

[Balzer40]

Aaron Maybin is expected to sign with Jets Wednesday

You would know this if you read the thread, more specifically, the post just 2 above yours.

C'mon man.

Unless Maybin is going to play LBer for the Jets, it makes absolutely no sense for him to sign there. Buffalo cut him because he couldn't play in the 3-4 defense. Not that I care if he comes here or not, but its just a bad choice IMO.

[Malakai432]

Heard on the NFL channel he's already going to the Jets

[Coltsman1788]

It seems obvious to me at this point that the Colts wish to bring in and try out as many D-lineman as our cap will allow during the pre. These guys are being signed to smallish 1 year deals that could easily be cut with little regard. This is a FA open tryout session and this bodes well for Indy. The stubborn philosophy of Indy defense is being broken.

This is quite telling as to the mindset of the FO.

They feel confident in their strength in the secondary.

They recognize that Freeny/Mathis are pass rushing specialists that pose a liability to run defense. Their quick burst into the pocket betrays their respective gaps. As well, their small size is a liability against the run.

The Colts want variance in their D-line packages unlike anything we've ever seen in the Polian era.

I have a really really good feeling that finally we are being served an aggressive proactive defense for the 2011 season.

I think you hit the nail right on the head as to why I thought this was interesting enough to post here. He most likely won't sign with us but the fact that the Colts are still looking at D-linemen is intriguing.

[Mouthfire]

It seems obvious to me at this point that the Colts wish to bring in and try out as many D-lineman as our cap will allow during the pre. These guys are being signed to smallish 1 year deals that could easily be cut with little regard. This is a FA open tryout session and this bodes well for Indy. The stubborn philosophy of Indy defense is being broken.

This is quite telling as to the mindset of the FO.

They feel confident in their strength in the secondary.

They recognize that Freeny/Mathis are pass rushing specialists that pose a liability to run defense. Their quick burst into the pocket betrays their respective gaps. As well, their small size is a liability against the run.

The Colts want variance in their D-line packages unlike anything we've ever seen in the Polian era.

I have a really really good feeling that finally we are being served an aggressive proactive defense for the 2011 season.

I also feel a bit better about the secondary than before the preseason. It looks like Thomas might be a player. And there's Rucker, who we haven't seen too much of yet.

I also think Lefeged will be a monster for us. Maybe not this year, but in the next year or two.

[indy_nick]

The Colts off-season strategy this year reminds me of shopping at the bargain bin in a retail store. For me it's like shopping at Gamestop. They are sifting through the $10 and under bin looking for a specific genre (position) of game. If they do like it, they will keep it. If they don't like the game then they will return it. I'm loving our new-found aggression in free agency. This was the perfect year for Chris Polian to start making decisions because these players would not have been available in such a manner if there was no lockout. I am very excited to see what the new players can do.

[Moncrief]

I am beginning to wonder if we are going to use a 3-4 D every once in awhile. Anderson and Brayton as the ends and Mookie or Harris as the nose tackle. Brackett and Angerer in the middle and Sims with either Wheeler or Conner on the outside. This is just me thinking out loud.

[vitoaf27]

I am beginning to wonder if we are going to use a 3-4 D every once in awhile. Anderson and Brayton as the ends and Mookie or Harris as the nose tackle. Brackett and Angerer in the middle and Sims with either Wheeler or Conner on the outside. This is just me thinking out loud.

Wow! The idea, if you think about it, sounds a little bizarre: the Colts running a 3-4 D. We haven't changed our defensive philosophy in ten years. But to be quite honest, the personnel we now have could allow for us to play around with the idea of doing some 3-4 packages.

This may quite honestly be the most excited I've been for football in YEARS. I'm loving all of the moves that Chris is making as GM. I can't wait to see how our offensive line plays out. I can't wait to see how our defensive line plays out. I can't wait to see how all of our free agency acquisitions--unprecedented by the Colts under Bill--play out. Don't get me wrong, I'm a HUGE Bill Polian fan, but I'm glad that Chris has taken over most of the duties. It seems like we've almost gone through a rebuilding offseason. That's impressive given the little cap room we have, all of the core playmakers we have, our draft position, and the fact that we made the playoffs last year despite having 17 (or more?) on IR.

[Balzer40]

Their not going to a 3-4 or even toying with the idea in my opinion. Our LBers are way too small and we still don't have a true NT.

[mark_dk]

Their not going to a 3-4 or even toying with the idea in my opinion. Our LBers are way too small and we still don't have a true NT.

Agreed. And as someone posted in another thread they haven't been practicing a 3-4 scheme in camp so don't bother yourselves hoping for it to happen sometime during the season.

[BlueCrew]

Me and my cousin were having a discussion about Maybin yesterday, and we both agreed: Love to have, never going to happen. We both agreed he'd probably stay in the division, but he was thinking Pats, I was thinking Jets.

I am beginning to wonder if we are going to use a 3-4 D every once in awhile. Anderson and Brayton as the ends and Mookie or Harris as the nose tackle. Brackett and Angerer in the middle and Sims with either Wheeler or Conner on the outside. This is just me thinking out loud.

I looove how you leave off our two best defensive players from that list. :smh:

A Colts switch to the 3-4 would be the biggest mistake since, well, since we didn't draft Rodger Saffold last season.

Understand, I'm a 3-4 advocate. That's my defensive scheme. But the Colts don't have a SHADOW of an OUNCE of the personal needed to use and have success in a 3-4 scheme. The most likely shift would be having either one of Mathis or Freeney switching to OLB (just look at Mario Williams for a recent example), which is completely ridiculous considering their skill sets and the [Pro Bowl] caliber of those skill sets.

[indy_nick]

I also remember in all of the forums when we signed Simms, Harris, and Anderson everyone was saying we brought them in because they were used to our SYSTEM and comfortable in the Tampa 2 defense. It's seems like a contradiction to bring these guys in because they fit our system and they we change our system...A 3-4 defense is not going to happen. Our defense will look even smaller (if that's possible) if we run some 3-4

[Andy]

He could provide good depth, but he's not worth it. I'm done signing 1st round picks...

[hurricane1122]

maybin is a linebacker not dline

[Jason_]

Me and my cousin were having a discussion about Maybin yesterday, and we both agreed: Love to have, never going to happen. We both agreed he'd probably stay in the division, but he was thinking Pats, I was thinking Jets.

I looove how you leave off our two best defensive players from that list. :smh:

A Colts switch to the 3-4 would be the biggest mistake since, well, since we didn't draft Rodger Saffold last season.

Understand, I'm a 3-4 advocate. That's my defensive scheme. But the Colts don't have a SHADOW of an OUNCE of the personal needed to use and have success in a 3-4 scheme. The most likely shift would be having either one of Mathis or Freeney switching to OLB (just look at Mario Williams for a recent example), which is completely ridiculous considering their skill sets and the [Pro Bowl] caliber of those skill sets.

Couldn't agree more. The only thing I would find intriguing about the Colt's running a 3-4 package is seeing what Mathis could do at an OLB position similar to a Damarcus Ware. I think he could be a monster, but then again he isn't doing too shabby at DE so, if it ain't broke. I actually brought up the idea of trying Mathis at OLB several years ago and a few reported seeing Mathis play some OLB at practice but he apparently had virtually no coverage skills. The thing that sets guys like Ware apart are that they CAN also play in coverage so it's not guaranteed that they will rush the QB every down. If Mathis were nothing but a pass rushing OLB then what really would be the point?

Also, if we were going to be considering a 3-4 then why would we be signing all of the DLmen? Wouldn't we be looking for LB's? Unless those suggesting this are thinking that some of the DE's will be converted to OLB. Either way, it's not going to happen. We don't have the DL anywhere close to what you need in a 3-4. The DE's in a 3-4 are generally over 300 lbs and the NT preferably is in the 320-350 range. So yeah, like BlueCrew said, our D would be even more undersized if they switched to a 3-4.

I do think the FO is making a lot of great moves bringing in these low-risk, high reward FA's. Yes, several of them may be considered first round busts, but sometimes a change in scenery and/or system can change that. Plus, these guys when they were originally drafted in the first round (Brayton, Anderson, Sims) were thrust into the starting lineup their rookie years with teams that were expecting results from them right away (Oakland, Detroit and Atlanta respectively) so there was a lot of pressure on these guys right from the get-go. Some guys just don't do well with that kind of pressure. Now they're in an entirely different situation with a team that is a known winner and the only pressure they have is earning a final roster spot. They weren't brought in to be the savior of the defense, they were brought in to fill holes and add some much needed depth. So they don't have to worry about being the one to "right the ship", they simply have to come in and do their job. Is there a chance they could all flop? Sure there is but if so it's not a huge loss to us. This last paragraph is a rant to those who keep asking "why do we keep signing all these former first round busts?"

Bottom line is I'm actually excited about our defense for the first time since we signed Corey Simon and then big Booger.

[BOTT]

The Colts off-season strategy this year reminds me of shopping at the bargain bin in a retail store. For me it's like shopping at Gamestop. They are sifting through the $10 and under bin looking for a specific genre (position) of game. If they do like it, they will keep it. If they don't like the game then they will return it. I'm loving our new-found aggression in free agency. This was the perfect year for Chris Polian to start making decisions because these players would not have been available in such a manner if there was no lockout. I am very excited to see what the new players can do.

really?? to me it's more like rummaging thru junk at a flea market.