If Bowers fell into 15

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

Colts got to pick the first defensive player in the draft at #15 and Latu is looking like a good player so far. So I don’t think they can be considered losers. But I do think how much they “won” the draft with that scenario could be overstated. 

Latu has great potential but everyone knew Bowers would be great. At least I did lol.

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 hours ago, Yoshinator said:

The only two TEs I wanted in this class were Bowers and Reiman. My heart was in on Bowers, I knew he was going to be elite. Perfect player to grow with AR throughout his career. The Penix pick by the Falcons created a domino effect where the Broncos couldn't trade down and get Nix still, so when they chose Nix the Raiders had none of the top 6 QBs available and pivoted to Bowers. That gave us our choice of all the defensive players in which we chose Latu. 

 

We may be the losers of that domino effect.

I thought you were done?...you said your goodbyes three times so far this season.

[crazycolt1]

All we heard at the end of last season was how we needed a better pass tush. We'll that's the way Ballard drafted and now some want to use hindsight to whine about the pick. 

All that tells me is no matter who was drafted pointing a finger at Ballard is on the agenda. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

All we heard at the end of last season was how we needed a better pass tush. We'll that's the way Ballard drafted and now some want to use hindsight to whine about the pick. 

All that tells me is no matter who was drafted pointing a finger at Ballard is on the agenda. 

I am definitely not whining about taking Latu, loved the pick but I did want Bowers. AR not having a good TE is hurting this team badly.

[crazycolt1]

25 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am definitely not whining about taking Latu, loved the pick but I did want Bowers. AR not having a good TE is hurting this team badly.

I think Shane is using the TEs primarily as blockers. The offense is not utilizing the TE position to their strengths. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I think Shane is using the TEs primarily as blockers. The offense is not utilizing the TE position to their strengths. 

Yeah, it looks that way, man Bowers is killing it for the Raiders and they stink. 

[crazycolt1]

11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah, it looks that way, man Bowers is killing it for the Raiders and they stink. 

Personally I don't think our TEs are that bad but it's hard to judge when they are not being utilized. 

[indyagent17]

10 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

If you're so in love with Bowers...please become a Raider fan.

What is your malfunction dude? I’m just suggesting a possibility. If he was there at 15, you don’t have to be a turd.

[indyagent17]

10 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

If you're so in love with Bowers...please become a Raider fan.

😁

[Solid84]

I wanted Bowers. I'm glad we got Latu when Bowers wasn't an option, though.

[jvan1973]

I think you have to take Bowers.   But if they never throw to him,   what good would he be?

[throwing BBZ]

23 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Tricky at the moment yes Bowers is going to win OROY. However their careers could look different 5 years from now. Bowers would’ve been so damn good on this offense though.

 

 He would have been darn near useless having to block so much then there is the 44% thing. 

[crazycolt1]

3 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

I think you have to take Bowers.   But if they never throw to him,   what good would he be?

I tend to agree.  I'm not exactly sure if Shane's offensive schemes are TE friendly.  It's not a point of our TEs lacking talent, it's the lack of being used in the passing game. 

I would expect that to change over time.

[crazycolt1]

I see no use in using hindsight to be negative over the lack of productivity of our TEs. 

Shane's offensive schemes were not geared towards TEs. 

Picking Latu was the best pick at the time regardless of how it works out. 

[jimmy g]

5 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Shane's offensive schemes were not geared towards TEs. 

But they were when he called the plays in Philadelphia. Otherwise, it looks like he has tried to bring the Eagle’s plays here. I wish he had the players to do it…

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/29/2024 at 5:05 PM, indyagent17 said:

Would you still pick Lattu?

People forget that Bowers was considered generational.  I said he may have been the best player in the draft. He already maybe the best tight end in football and he is a rookie. That being said. If Latu becomes a franchise rush end. To me, I would take Latu.

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/29/2024 at 5:05 PM, indyagent17 said:

Would you still pick Lattu?

I do remember watching the draft and I was totally shocked he fell. 

[Moosejawcolt]

17 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I see no use in using hindsight to be negative over the lack of productivity of our TEs. 

Shane's offensive schemes were not geared towards TEs. 

Picking Latu was the best pick at the time regardless of how it works out. 

If they both work out, then Latu is your guy. However that being said. If we were at 15 and they both were there. I probably would have went Bowers. I think he was the best player in the draft. I didn't see bust. I saw a generational player at 15. Latu was the 1st D player off the board, and there was a reason for that.  The best rush end in a draft doesn't make it out of the top 5. Latu is impressing me more and more each week. 

[crazycolt1]

44 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

If they both work out, then Latu is your guy. However that being said. If we were at 15 and they both were there. I probably would have went Bowers. I think he was the best player in the draft. I didn't see bust. I saw a generational player at 15. Latu was the 1st D player off the board, and there was a reason for that.  The best rush end in a draft doesn't make it out of the top 5. Latu is impressing me more and more each week. 

Going into the draft the mindset of most was to improve our pass rush.  It was thought to help the defensive backs. 

We were getting the Sacks, just not at the opportune times. 

[Lancer1]

TE1 is a big need, if properly utilized he could be a real difference maker in short yardage & goal line situations and everyone knew that Bowers would be effective.

[GoColts8818]

23 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Going into the draft the mindset of most was to improve our pass rush.  It was thought to help the defensive backs. 

We were getting the Sacks, just not at the opportune times. 

Given the reports and the Giants video of Ballard trying to trade up I think Ballard went into the draft trying to get another weapon for AR.  He couldn’t find a trade partner so he made the draft work for him and got the best defensive player on their board and came back and got his weapon in the second round.  That’s what you have to do in the draft play the hand you are dealt and not always try to force something that’s not there.

[Superman]

I would have been fine with Bowers. I'm fine with Latu.

 

I also don't think the TE situation is as bad as it looks at times. Our offense struggles all the way around at times, the lack of TE production is more about the offense than it is about their lack of ability. The ceiling of this group is pretty limited, though. And it seems like bad things happen when Granson is targeted, whether that's his fault or not. Setting aside QB, it's the biggest offensive need on the roster.

 

The defense needs a significant overhaul, but Latu would still be a building block. 

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

I would have been fine with Bowers. I'm fine with Latu.

 

I also don't think the TE situation is as bad as it looks at times. Our offense struggles all the way around at times, the lack of TE production is more about the offense than it is about their lack of ability. The ceiling of this group is pretty limited, though. And it seems like bad things happen when Granson is targeted, whether that's his fault or not. Setting aside QB, it's the biggest offensive need on the roster.

 

The defense needs a significant overhaul, but Latu would still be a building block. 

Like I said earlier when talking about Bowers vs Latu this maybe a case where there was no wrong choice.  Both would/have addressed a major need for the Colts.  Had the Colts gotten Bowers I think we would be happier about the tight ends but I also think we would be concerned about the ends just like we are the tight ends now.

[Hawkeyecolt]

Draft Warren in the next draft and the Colts get the best of both worlds. 

[atapcl]

With all the injuries at DE Latu was needed. 

[Defjamz26]

Still would’ve went with Bowers. Latu was a good pick but he wasn’t a generational Edge rusher. And it took me a long time to get on the Bowers train last season. Liked the player, but I didn’t see the positional value because I really wanted Quinyon Mitchell. After awhile I was okay with Bowers because he was really a unique talent.