2024: Week 13 All Around the NFL Game Discussion

[NFLfan]

21 minutes ago, Arodgers12 said:

Happy Thanksgiving to you guys!

 

Happy Thanksgiving! Good game tonight.

[2006Coltsbestever]

19 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

@stitches was Love's biggest fan. I did not see too many people who wanted Love. Stitches wrote many posts about why he wanted the Colts to draft Jordan Love.

 

Who did the Colts draft that year?

I wasn't as high on Love as Stitches was, but I liked him and would have been ok with taking him at 13. We had a roster then that could make a playoff run, so we traded the 13th pick for Buckner and rolled with Rivers. I was ok with that. Of course, in hindsight, the ideal situation would have been taking Love at 13 and have him sit behind Rivers for 1 year. Then again, our D would have suffered more.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t think colts are making playoffs so I really am not worried about anyone 

The other day you were worried about Miami, I told you not to be  , tonight proved my point. Why you or anyone else don't think we can't win at least 4 of 5 these remaining games is mindboggling. We play scrub teams from here out. The Denver game is the key. I knew after we had this dreaded 4 game stretch that people would give up on this team, oh well, have at it. Now the other teams have their tough part of the schedule, lets see how they like it 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

28 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

@stitches was Love's biggest fan. I did not see too many people who wanted Love. Stitches wrote many posts about why he wanted the Colts to draft Jordan Love.

 

Who did the Colts draft that year?

Colds had the 13th pick. They traded it for Buckner. But they also had two early seconds and took Pittman and Taylor. They could have still got Love even with trading the 13th because they also had those two early seconds to trade back up. Packers drafted him at 26 I believe. Would have been the perfect time to draft him and let him sit behind Rivers. We could have had Buck and Love. Taylor or Pittman would not of been a colt but QB always comes first.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I wasn't as high on Love as Stitches was, but I liked him and would have been ok with taking him at 13. We had a roster then that could make a playoff run, so we traded the 13th pick for Buckner and rolled with Rivers. I was ok with that. Of course, in hindsight, the ideal situation would have been taking Love at 13 and have him sit behind Rivers for 1 year. Then again, our D would have suffered more.

We could have had both. We still could of had Love and traded for Buck 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We could of had both 

Had we traded up, GB picked before we did late in Round 1.

We could have had Justin Herbert or Josh Allen too in hindsight. 

[GoColts8818]

2 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

 

 

@RollerColt @2006Coltsbestever @crazycolt1

@GoColts8818

Would you all take Eberflus back as Defensive Coordinator if Eberflus is let go?

I think I said earlier this year if the choice is him or Bradley yes but if they do fire Bradley I’d hope whoever is the GM and head coach will explore all options.

[shakedownstreet]

It's Thanksgiving

 

My belly is plump

 

Everyone is laughing at the Bears

 

Man, it's good to be alive!!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

9 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Had we traded up, GB picked before we did late in Round 1.

We could have had Justin Herbert or Josh Allen too in hindsight. 

We were not getting Herbert. The minute we called they call chargers and they up their offer. But we should have had Love. GB traded up from late first.

[VikingsFanInChennai]

17 hours ago, NFLfan said:

What a terrible, terrible play! I think those Lions players crawling on the field after sacking Williams contributed to that. They should have been called for delay of game.

I'd not blame Lions defense players one bit, they're celebrating a sack, moving the Bears out of FG range (in Eberflus' words after the game), so that's a game winning play and lions players are aware of the monumental moment of the game at that point. 

 

Blame rests on the Bears players for letting the clock run out from 33 seconds to 6 seconds before the final snap! And, on the coach, who could've at least called a TO before the snap to attempt a 58-yard FG. It shows the complete lack of awareness for the Bears players and HC. It's a good thing to happen, if the Bears owners are at least aware now that this HC is lost. Lost forever, and time to clean the coaching staff.

 

This play shows how the coaching has not helped the No.1 over-all draft pick to be completely unaware of the game situation. They need to fire for that reason alone, if they ever want Williams to be a winning QB. This mistake is not just a chaos-induced final minute disaster, but it shows how the Bears coaching staff has not prepared the offense for final minute drill. Running a single play, with 33 seconds left on the clock for the end of the game with 1 TO, is one of the basic and simplest preparation you need to do during the off-season and they are not prepared at the end of November.

 

Why would Colts want such a dumb coach back again in any capacity? Just because some HCs can be useful co-ordinators doesn't mean Colts should try him again at DC position, especially after seeing the lack of game awareness and lack of preparation in practice for years as HC. 

 

The reason Lions players are not to be blamed is, the offense can start the next play while opposition are still celebrating. Few years ago, 2 Raiders players were celebrating a sack and the opposition snapped the next play with these 2 DL behind LOS, and that went well for the offense (was it KC? I think Khalil Mack was with raiders then). If Belichick was the coach yesterday for the Bears, he'd have chewed Williams for not taking advantage of that! You don't need the referees to punish the Lions players celebrating the sack. As a QB, you can immediately punish them yourself by snapping next play.

 

 

It also shows how much Williams needs to get better in game awareness as their franchise QB! Williams should've planned about the next snap (because of the game situation - need to kick a FG to tie the game before clock expires) BEFORE he snapped the penultimate play, where he got sacked. That's what great franchise QBs do! That's what number-one over-all draft pick is expected to do, regardless of how dumb your coach could be. That's the kind of lack of game awareness I've seen in the likes of Kirk Cousins and Matt Ryan repeatedly over the years - 2 QBs I've seen too many times who can't process right in crucial situations and when they're in borderline FG range.

[NFLfan]

 

[NFLfan]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5956200/2024/11/29/bears-lions-matt-eberflus-ryan-poles?source=user-shared-article

[NFLfan]

37 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

Blame rests on the Bears players for letting the clock run out from 33 seconds to 6 seconds before the final snap! And, on the coach, who could've at least called a TO before the snap to attempt a 58-yard FG. It shows the complete lack of awareness for the Bears players and HC.

 

I don't disagree. I still think the refs could have called delay of game on the Lions. They throw flags on ticky tack stuff. This one should have been called. That should not be interpreted as saying that the Bears do not deserve most of the blame. That reminded me of when Kirk Cousins did not clock the ball last year as time was running out. Kirk was a 10+ year vet and he did not make the right decision. The coach took all the blame but it seemed that Cousins should have known what to do, as we were clearly in a hurry-up situation. Caleb showed more urgency yesterday than Kirk did, if one can believe that.

 

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/24/minnesota-vikings-kirk-cousins-kevin-oconnell-clock-ball/#:~:text=The play that everyone will be talking,Cousins not clocking the football after T.J.

 

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The Minnesota Vikings found a way to lose against the Los Angeles Chargers by a score of 28-24. The play that everyone will be talking about at the end of the game is Kirk Cousins not clocking the football after T.J. Hockenson catches a fourth-down pass with 36 seconds left.

The ensuing 24 seconds were wasted by the Vikings by trying to get set when they could have just spiked the football. Why didn’t they spike it? Kevin O’Connell explained what happened.

 

[Lancer1]

Eberflus is out in Chicago

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42679835/sources-bears-fire-eberflus-sixth-straight-loss

 

 

[NFLfan]

4 minutes ago, Lancer1 said:

Eberflus is out in Chicago

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/42679835/sources-bears-fire-eberflus-sixth-straight-loss

 

 

 

Had the Bears not had that gaffe yesterday, Eberflus would still be the head coach.

 

No one has mentioned Cole Kmet, but he had a terrible penalty on that last drive, if I recall correctly.

[NFLfan]

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With 2 seconds to go on Oct. 27 in Washington, the

#Bears were a Hail Mary away from a fourth straight win that would’ve moved them to 5-2, a game back of the NFC North lead. Instead, they lost that game and five more, and now have fired Matt Eberflus the day after Thanksgiving.

 

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[NFLfan]

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It’s Black Friday and three teams are already looking for new head coaches:

🏈 #Jets
🏈 #Saints 
🏈 #Bears  

Black Monday is still 38 days away …

 

 

https://bsky.app/profile/tompelissero.bsky.social/post/3lc44qsrfg223

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We were not getting Herbert. The minute we called they call chargers and they up their offer. But we should have had Love. GB traded up from late first.

My point is hindsight is easy to nitpick anything. Carolina should have drafted Stroud is just 1 example of that. By the way Josh Allen was there at #6 when we took Nelson, yes we had Luck, but Allen would have been a nice back up and could have sit 2 or 3 years. He wasn't NFL ready. Regarding Herbert, there are many in here that seem top think we could have traded up to get him or Tua. I have read many members say so, so it is not just me.

[NFLfan]

The Chiefs don't look so good this year. I understand looking bad against the Bears but the Raiders are playing their backup QB and the Chiefs are leading by only 2 points.

 

Carlson just missed his third FG. If he made any of them, the Raiders would be in the lead.

[NFLfan]

Really good game. 2 minutes warning.  Chiefs punted it back to the Raiders. Fair catch inside the 10-yard line.

[Chrisaaron1023]

What a crazy ending this is coming down to

[ColtsGermany]

C'mon....that ending is worse than yesterday's Chicago brainfart....

 

When do the Chiefs run out of luck?

I don't get it....they could easily be 8-4 instead of 11-1....

[Chrisaaron1023]

Hahahahah 🤣 

[NFLfan]

My goodness. That was disappointing. The Raiders had a good chance to win. This one was not the coach's or the QB's fault. Yesterday it clearly was.

[Chrisaaron1023]

My poor son. He's 7 and was on the verge of tears when the raiders were driving about to win. He like daddy "what happens if they lose?" Of course he likes the Chiefs. He was pretty happy with that outcome.

 

Im fine with the win. I gotta pretty big mouth cocky Bills fan coworker. I have to hear each and every day about Bills mafia and Josh Allen.. I'm okay with the Chiefs keeping the 1 seed and keeping him as humble as possible 🤣🤣

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

That was a crazy ending. O’Connell looked like a franchise QB today. He looked really good. Makes me angry how close colts were to getting Bowers.

[VikingsFanInChennai]

On 11/29/2024 at 11:34 PM, NFLfan said:

 

https://bsky.app/profile/tompelissero.bsky.social/post/3lc44qsrfg223

What's this Bluesky app... Have never seen it before.

 

On 11/29/2024 at 9:00 PM, NFLfan said:

 

I don't disagree. I still think the refs could have called delay of game on the Lions. They throw flags on ticky tack stuff. This one should have been called. That should not be interpreted as saying that the Bears do not deserve most of the blame. That reminded me of when Kirk Cousins did not clock the ball last year as time was running out. Kirk was a 10+ year vet and he did not make the right decision. The coach took all the blame but it seemed that Cousins should have known what to do, as we were clearly in a hurry-up situation. Caleb showed more urgency yesterday than Kirk did, if one can believe that.

 

https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/09/24/minnesota-vikings-kirk-cousins-kevin-oconnell-clock-ball/#:~:text=The play that everyone will be talking,Cousins not clocking the football after T.J.

 

 

I think it's just not in the rulebook for the refs to call a penalty there, and the QB can easily take advantage of that. Rodgers, Theilen and Belichick are very few of the guys I've seen use their brain at right moment to make the opposition pay. Once in a Vikings vs Patriots game, Belichick was calling his players to fake an injury and Theilen went straight to Belichick to have few unkind words. That was like two brilliant guys going against each other fully knowing what they're upto. Belichick seemed angry but you know he'd have loved that presence of mind in a player even in the opposition ranks. Kirk as a QB was a spectator, some people just don't get it unless it's in textbook.

 

Yeah, Caleb showed much urgency and called his offense to get set when the play clock was around 30 secs, then wasted all the time until it was 6 secs left. So not sure why he was not snapping the ball. I think he was waiting for his HC to call time-out, but he could've easily played an incompletion pass with 10 secs remaining. That shows the HC and QB haven't been in same page, and I guess having new offensive play caller didn't help either. Caleb could learn from that, we'll see in future.

[shakedownstreet]

49'ers players out in Buffalo tonight enjoying boneless wings with ranch!

[NFLfan]

3 hours ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

What's this Bluesky app... Have never seen it before.

 

It is fairly new. It looks like Twitter. Apparently it was created by the same guy who created Twitter.

 

Here is the link to Vikings on Bluesky:

https://bsky.app/profile/vikings.bsky.social

 

Ian Rapoport:

https://bsky.app/profile/rapsheet1.bsky.social

 

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Giants potential defensive player of the year Dexter Lawrence, who suffered a dislocated elbow in the loss to the Cowboys, is expected to miss the rest of the season, with Brian Daboll saying it’s “long-term.”

With 5 games to go, Lawrence has no choice but to look to 2025.

 

https://bsky.app/profile/rapsheet1.bsky.social/post/3lc43hjjxz22m

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

28 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

It is fairly new. It looks like Twitter. Apparently it was created by the same guy who created Twitter.

 

Here is the link to Vikings on Bluesky:

https://bsky.app/profile/vikings.bsky.social

 

Ian Rapoport:

https://bsky.app/profile/rapsheet1.bsky.social

 

 

https://bsky.app/profile/rapsheet1.bsky.social/post/3lc43hjjxz22m

 

 

Is the Blusky app, like drinking a Brusky? 

[NFLfan]

The Vikings nearly lost today. They were down 19-6 to the Cardianals in the 4th Quarter.

 

Vikes play the Falcons next Sunday. They should have won that game. Cousins threw 4 touchdowns, one was a pick-6 and the last two were thrown while they were driving to take the lead. Kirk will want to show the Vikes they made a mistake. We will see.

 

 

[RollerColt]

Bengals season officially came to an end today. Zac Taylor needs fired tonight along with the defensive coordinator. 
 

No team in NFL history has ever scored over 30 points more than 5 times in a season and lost all of them. 
 

If the Bengals ownership doesn’t care, they honestly should let Burrow go to a franchise that actually wants to win. 
 

First time in my life I heard my dad say he’s had enough of Cincinnati. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Justin Tucker entering his Adam Vinatieri late days. That dude has been terrible lately. Ravens should be winning, Tucker looks done.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

The Vikings nearly lost today. They were down 19-6 to the Cardianals in the 4th Quarter.

 

Vikes play the Falcons next Sunday. They should have won that game. Cousins threw 4 touchdowns, one was a pick-6 and the last two were thrown while they were driving to take the lead. Kirk will want to show the Vikes they made a mistake. We will see.

 

 

The Captain had a bad day, can't sugarcoat it 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Ravens have not looked good. Good thing their schedule isn’t super difficult or they might have trouble making the playoffs. With a loss today they are only 2 games behind colts 

[NFLfan]

52 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The Captain had a bad day, can't sugarcoat it 

 

One cannot have a worse game. That was really bad. Someone on the Vikings site wrote that Cousins has 11 INTs at home and only 2 on the road. He plays us on the road.

[Chrisaaron1023]

Welp this game is over

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Chrisaaron1023 said:

Welp this game is over

49ers are done. 

[RollerColt]

Josh Allen is so awesome. Flick of a wrist and that ball is thrown perfectly. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

This isn’t the same bills that can’t play in bad weather