AR is improving BUT….

[JMichael557]

2 hours ago, Rolltide_gocolts said:

This is exactly why I knew the Flacco experiment would fail!!.. AR has a highlight reel of sack escapes alone!! lol… he’s 1 of 1 in that department 

This is the other factor that drives me crazy when talking about AR's completion %, when he escapes a sack and throws the ball away about 5 times a game that is an incomplete pass and is used against him which makes no sense. If he takes a sack then that is on the OLine and his % of completions would not be affected. In effect, he is being punished for making positive plays most QBs cannot make.

[stitches]

9 hours ago, Superman said:

 

It's starting to really gain users and content. If you liked the ease of use on Twitter before they started making big changes, you'll probably like Bluesky. 

Can the forum integrate posts from bluesky? 

[Solid84]

12 hours ago, Superman said:

https://bsky.app/profile/tednguyen.bsky.social/post/3lbsyvtcmn22i

 

Do the Colts have a presence there yet? I've seen the Steelers among a few others are there already.

[C_Lew]

12 hours ago, Rolltide_gocolts said:

Milroe is very explosive  but when he’s bad he’s extremely bad…. Our losses directly lead back to his play I can’t say the same for AR and the colts… quite the opposite,  everyone one under performed 

I agree. AR is a superior QB to Milroe. Milroe is a hard worker, so maybe he can do like Jalen Hurts did, and prove me wrong. Right now, though, I don't see him as a starting QB in the NFL. I fully believe AR will continue to be a starting QB in this league for years to come, as long as his health holds out.

[MB-ColtsFan]

14 hours ago, Superman said:

https://bsky.app/profile/tednguyen.bsky.social/post/3lbsyvtcmn22i

 

Yeah, I made mention in the game thread that he needs to learn to run behind his blockers.

 

He did do a slide again so there is progress.  Learning to trust his blockers is for another time I guess, haha.

[Superman]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

Can the forum integrate posts from bluesky? 

 

Apparently not. I didn't even think about it until I posted that link.

 

1 hour ago, Solid84 said:

Do the Colts have a presence there yet? I've seen the Steelers among a few others are there already.

 

Not yet. There's a fan page holding the @Colts handle at the moment. I'd like to think the team is working on that... 

 

12 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Yeah, I made mention in the game thread that he needs to learn to run behind his blockers.

 

He did do a slide again so there is progress.  Learning to trust his blockers is for another time I guess, haha.

 

Yeah, I blamed the blocker, and I still think he needed to be more decisive and get to his block. But Richardson could have been a touch more patient. 

[stitches]

24 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Apparently not. I didn't even think about it until I posted that link.

 

There probably should be some plugins to do it, but I don't know who's responsible for the administration and technical support of the forum.

[NFLfan]

2 hours ago, Superman said:

Apparently not. I didn't even think about it until I posted that link.

 

I thought I saw the actual Bluesky post that you posted, not just the link.

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

There probably should be some plugins to do it, but I don't know who's responsible for the administration and technical support of the forum.

 

@Nadine What do you think? ^^^

[chickenMan]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:27 AM, Patrick Miller said:

…..do you think he is our franchise qb? Are you so confident that you Would  pass up a first round talent qb next year? I think he’s made improvements but I need to see more. What say you?

I think it’s hard to evaluate if he’s the next franchise QB when his tight ends drop wide open passes, his OL let him get hit and commit penalties wiping away completions, his star running back isn’t producing, and his head coach isn’t calling plays designed to build his confidence. This team is dysfunctional, and it’s hard to get a true idea of a player when they’re surrounded by that.

[Superman]

5 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

I thought I saw the actual Bluesky post that you posted, not just the link.

 

All I see is the link... 

[stitches]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

All I see is the link... 

Same, I see the link only. 

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, chickenMan said:

I think it’s hard to evaluate if he’s the next franchise QB when his tight ends drop wide open passes, his OL let him get hit and commit penalties wiping away completions, his star running back isn’t producing, and his head coach isn’t calling plays designed to build his confidence. This team is dysfunctional, and it’s hard to get a true idea of a player when they’re surrounded by that.

 

I think we're having the wrong conversations about Richardson. Right now, I think the most important question is whether our program allows him to develop and improve (it's been a mixed bag, IMO). The second question is whether he's improving, and trying to have that conversation on a week to week basis is frustrating, because QB improvement is not a straight line. That's especially true for a QB like Richardson.

 

The questions about whether he's the right guy to build round, and whether he can be a franchise level QB for a contender, those questions probably don't get answered for another year, maybe two. That's basically 'can he be a top 10-ish QB, and should he get a new contract,' and there's a lot of work to be done before we can have that discussion. A lot of people are skipping ahead to that, and I think it's extremely premature.

[MB-ColtsFan]

2 hours ago, Superman said:

 

Yeah, I blamed the blocker, and I still think he needed to be more decisive and get to his block. But Richardson could have been a touch more patient. 

I disagree.  In the video you can see Concalves head right for his target with no hesitation.  AR is right behind him and immediately cuts left and the defender didn’t have to take on the block.  Concalves never had a chance to engage.  AR is so young and is still learning.  He’ll pick it up as he gets more opportunities.  It will save some wear and tear on his body if he learns sooner rather than later, though.

 

That hole was huge, by the way.  Great job by the Oline.

[ADnum1]

4 hours ago, C_Lew said:

I agree. AR is a superior QB to Milroe. Milroe is a hard worker, so maybe he can do like Jalen Hurts did, and prove me wrong. Right now, though, I don't see him as a starting QB in the NFL. I fully believe AR will continue to be a starting QB in this league for years to come, as long as his health holds out.

Milroe has accomplished far more than AR ever did in college. Milroe actually has a body of work. He led Alabama to the SEC championship knocking off Georgia. 

 

What did AR ever accomplish in college?

 

Milroe is far more accurate on the short and intermediate intermediate throws, has similar size and strength and is every bit the threat to run and possesses great speed.

 

To me Milroe is better right now because you can't teach accuracy 

[BlackTiger]

21 minutes ago, Superman said:

That's basically 'can he be a top 10-ish QB, and should he get a new contract,' and there's a lot of work to be done before we can have that discussion. A lot of people are skipping ahead to that, and I think it's extremely premature.

4-5 years is long time to wait on someone, I would really hate to spend that long on someone who doesnt work out.  There are qbs coming out of college that look better than him pretty much right away or after just a few weeks.

 

Giving him until the end of next season is pretty generous imo, maybe more than he should even get if he doesnt show more soon.

[Superman]

7 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

4-5 years is long time to wait on someone, I would really hate to spend that long on someone who doesnt work out.  There are qbs coming out of college that look better than him pretty much right away or after just a few weeks.

 

Giving him until the end of next season is pretty generous imo, maybe more than he should even get if he doesnt show more soon.

 

If he's not developing and improving, it doesn't need to take 4-5 years before you switch course. But it does take more than 12 games.

[C_Lew]

4 minutes ago, ADnum1 said:

Milroe has accomplished far more than AR ever did in college. Milroe actually has a body of work. He led Alabama to the SEC championship knocking off Georgia. 

 

What did AR ever accomplish in college?

 

Milroe is far more accurate on the short and intermediate intermediate throws, has similar size and strength and is every bit the threat to run and possesses great speed.

 

To me Milroe is better right now because you can't teach accuracy 

 

Greg McElroy, AJ McCaron, Blake Sims, and Jake Coker all led Alabama to SEC championships, as well. I'm not sure what team accomplishments have to do with an individual player. As for Milroe, there's many Bama fans currently calling for him to be benched. I'm not one of those, but there's quite a few. He was 11/26 for 164 yards 0 TDs and 3 INTs this past game. Believe me, when the draft cycle starts, you'll hear a lot more about his deficiencies. 

 

As far as the comparison to AR, the only thing we have to compare is college history. Milroe plays for Bama, though, and AR played for a pretty bad UF team. So, even that isn't quite a fair comparison. 

[BlackTiger]

56 minutes ago, Superman said:

But it does take more than 12 games.

We are approaching two years pretty soon.  If he misses a bunch of games thats another reason to look for someone else.

[EasyE]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:27 AM, Patrick Miller said:

…..do you think he is our franchise qb? Are you so confident that you Would  pass up a first round talent qb next year? I think he’s made improvements but I need to see more. What say you?

I think he has not improved on anything throwing wise. His accuracy still stinks. Missed on several open guys this season.

 

But his running abilities are unbelievable. But IMO I favorite a QB that that can throw accurately and not have to take chances running so much for higher risk of injury. 

 

The playing style of the NFL running QBs are not my favorite. Teach them how to throw accurately and run when the pocket collapses.

 

It's like they all want to run first. 

 

I don't think IMO think they have the right coaching staff for AR.

 

AR needs easy setup plays and the Colts don't run JT enough.. JMO and I hope I don't trigger and upset any of you.

 

Colts fan until the end of time!!

 

Go Colts!!

 

Plus Colts got a easier schedule now, we choked through the rough time.. 🤣 🤣 

[compuls1v3]

40 minutes ago, EasyE said:

I think he has not improved on anything throwing wise. His accuracy still stinks. Missed on several open guys this season.

 

But his running abilities are unbelievable. But IMO I favorite a QB that that can throw accurately and not have to take chances running so much for higher risk of injury. 

 

The playing style of the NFL running QBs are not my favorite. Teach them how to throw accurately and run when the pocket collapses.

 

It's like they all want to run first. 

 

I don't think IMO think they have the right coaching staff for AR.

 

AR needs easy setup plays and the Colts don't run JT enough.. JMO and I hope I don't trigger and upset any of you.

 

Colts fan until the end of time!!

 

Go Colts!!

 

Plus Colts got a easier schedule now, we choked through the rough time.. 🤣 🤣 

I disagree on the improvement part of your statement.  I agree with the rest about easier plays for AR and running JT.  If you watch the first couple of games this year, AR was throwing wildly inaccurate.  My hunch was nerves, and AR confirmed that.  Now I'm not saying he is very accurate, but he IS a rookie, and he is NOT being supported well by his team.  I love me some Josh Downs, but even HE dropped a walk in TD against the Jets.  In 3 of the past 5 games, pass catchers have DROPPED TDs.  Zero of the TDs DROPPED were contested.  Also, the truth is, even though he missed a wide open Alec Pierce last game in the first quarter, EVERY QB misses throws.  Everyone.  Nobody is perfect.  After AR was benched, came back, he had his best game statistically.   And now when he misses, it's usually not by a mile, like it was in the beginning of the year.  He is also throwing the ball away smartly in the redzone.  I've seen some growth, and I'm looking for more.  I too don't like the fact that he hunts for contact when running.  You and I know that it won't last very long in the NFL.  Hopefully something clicks before a season ending injury like last year.  And if it happens again BECAUSE of his ignorance (not a fluke play, as those happens in the NFL as well), then I say shame on him.

[EasyE]

1 minute ago, compuls1v3 said:

I disagree on the improvement part of your statement.  I agree with the rest about easier plays for AR and running JT.  If you watch the first couple of games this year, AR was throwing wildly inaccurate.  My hunch was nerves, and AR confirmed that.  Now I'm not saying he is very accurate, but he IS a rookie, and he is NOT being supported well by his team.  I love me some Josh Downs, but even HE dropped a walk in TD against the Jets.  In 3 of the past 5 games, pass catchers have DROPPED TDs.  Zero of the TDs DROPPED were contested.  Also, the truth is, even though he missed a wide open Alec Pierce last game in the first quarter, EVERY QB misses throws.  Everyone.  Nobody is perfect.  After AR was benched, came back, he had his best game statistically.   And now when he misses, it's usually not by a mile, like it was in the beginning of the year.  He is also throwing the ball away smartly in the redzone.  I've seen some growth, and I'm looking for more.  I too don't like the fact that he hunts for contact when running.  You and I know that it won't last very long in the NFL.  Hopefully something clicks before a season ending injury like last year.  And if it happens again BECAUSE of his ignorance (not a fluke play, as those happens in the NFL as well), then I say shame on him.

We agree to disagree and I love that and you have several other points that are great about Downs.

 

Alec Pierce is a top wr on a different team and we could say that about all the Colts wrs IMO.

 

But having coaching that can't help AR be more relaxed on easy open guys. IMO are coaches automatically wanting to keep their jobs over AR making big plays just running.

 

So where are the colts at after AR gets hurt running the ball?

 

We are looking at over aged QB again!!

AR has so many missed throws this season,  I can't blame a receiver.

 

When I see a receiver miss a catch.. I'm upset cause it will never be there again the rest of the game like.. lol 

[EasyE]

11 minutes ago, EasyE said:

We agree to disagree and I love that and you have several other points that are great about Downs.

 

Alec Pierce is a top wr on a different team and we could say that about all the Colts wrs IMO.

 

But having coaching that can't help AR be more relaxed on easy open guys. IMO are coaches automatically wanting to keep their jobs over AR making big plays just running.

 

So where are the colts at after AR gets hurt running the ball?

 

We are looking at over aged QB again!!

AR has so many missed throws this season,  I can't blame a receiver.

 

When I see a receiver miss a catch.. I'm upset cause it will never be there again the rest of the game like.. lol 

@compuls1v3

I want to add at this, do you believe Colts are calling the right plays? Do you believe JT is running the ball enough to make AR job easier?

 

Do you believe it's the QB that makes the WR looks that great or the WR knows what he is doing?

 

I'm just asking cause I'm intrigued on others options!!

[EasyE]

8 minutes ago, EasyE said:

@compuls1v3

I want to add at this, do you believe Colts are calling the right plays? Do you believe JT is running the ball enough to make AR job easier?

 

Do you believe it's the QB that makes the WR looks that great or the WR knows what he is doing?

 

I'm just asking cause I'm intrigued on others options!!

@compuls1v3

We both love the same wr

Downs reminds me of Marvin, just no Peyton throwing to him.

 

So is Downs the better receiver or Marvin?

 

Haha 

 

Don't answer I'm just on my cancer drugs and don't know if I'm starting a good conversation or starting a argument.

 

I'm logging out, love you Colt fans.

 

Be back tomorrow and read more..

[Superman]

1 hour ago, compuls1v3 said:

I disagree on the improvement part of your statement.  

 

I don't understand how this is even debatable. If anyone doesn't see improvement in Richardson, I don't know what to say.

 

Quote

Also, the truth is, even though he missed a wide open Alec Pierce last game in the first quarter...

 

He had a defensive lineman in his chest. I know he had that amazing throw in Week 1, but that's not the norm. I don't think that play was about accuracy.

[compuls1v3]

24 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I don't understand how this is even debatable. If anyone doesn't see improvement in Richardson, I don't know what to say.

 

 

He had a defensive lineman in his chest. I know he had that amazing throw in Week 1, but that's not the norm. I don't think that play was about accuracy.

I know he had a D-lineman in his face.  My point was it was close.  And it was a play that ANY QB in the NFL could have missed.  Not some wild errant throw.  I've also said this before, but if he continues to improve and keep himself healthy, this off season could really give him a chance to work on his craft.  This is something he hasn't really had yet.  Now if only SS can make it just a tad bit easier on him.....

[Superman]

27 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said:

I know he had a D-lineman in his face.  My point was it was close.  And it was a play that ANY QB in the NFL could have missed.  Not some wild errant throw.  I've also said this before, but if he continues to improve and keep himself healthy, this off season could really give him a chance to work on his craft.  This is something he hasn't really had yet.  Now if only SS can make it just a tad bit easier on him.....

 

I just wouldn't call it a miss. Maybe I'm sensitive, because I've seen talking heads use that play as an example of poor accuracy on Richardson's part, and that's crazy. We agree though. 

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, EasyE said:

@compuls1v3

We both love the same wr

Downs reminds me of Marvin, just no Peyton throwing to him.

 

So is Downs the better receiver or Marvin?

 

Haha 

 

Don't answer I'm just on my cancer drugs and don't know if I'm starting a good conversation or starting a argument.

 

I'm logging out, love you Colt fans.

 

Be back tomorrow and read more..

 

Cancer drugs?!?    I’m so sorry to learn this.   
 

Stay positive.  Stay strong.   People are winning their battles with cancer more and more these days.  (I’m sure your doctors are telling you that).   And you have many friends here to lean on.  
 

Hope you’ll keep us posted.  Your friends are here for you.  

[RollerColt]

3 hours ago, EasyE said:

@compuls1v3

We both love the same wr

Downs reminds me of Marvin, just no Peyton throwing to him.

 

So is Downs the better receiver or Marvin?

 

Haha 

 

Don't answer I'm just on my cancer drugs and don't know if I'm starting a good conversation or starting a argument.

 

I'm logging out, love you Colt fans.

 

Be back tomorrow and read more..

And we love you Easy E. 
 

Please take care, many prayers and positive karma sent your way. Cancer sucks!!

[smittywerb]

- 5th highest rated QB on PFF

- despite being pressured in 46% of his dropbacks, had the 8th fastest TTT

- 15% drop rate

 

I’m honestly happy with the result of the game knowing AR is improving

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/colts-anthony-richardson-high-marks-pff-stat-line

[Boondoggle]

I want a QB who will do the work to be great.  A QB who is intrinsically motivated.  A QB who is our top competitor on the field.  Personally I do not believe AR is any of those things.  So yes I would draft a QB in this next draft.

[Nadine]

17 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

@Nadine What do you think? ^^^

it's in the next version, in testing

[NFLfan]

22 minutes ago, Nadine said:

it's in the next version, in testing

 

Great. Thank you.

[JMichael557]

18 hours ago, ADnum1 said:

Milroe has accomplished far more than AR ever did in college. Milroe actually has a body of work. He led Alabama to the SEC championship knocking off Georgia. 

 

What did AR ever accomplish in college?

 

Milroe is far more accurate on the short and intermediate intermediate throws, has similar size and strength and is every bit the threat to run and possesses great speed.

 

To me Milroe is better right now because you can't teach accuracy 

good thing that AR is accurate.

[Stephen]

19 hours ago, ADnum1 said:

Milroe has accomplished far more than AR ever did in college. Milroe actually has a body of work. He led Alabama to the SEC championship knocking off Georgia. 

 

What did AR ever accomplish in college?

 

Milroe is far more accurate on the short and intermediate intermediate throws, has similar size and strength and is every bit the threat to run and possesses great speed.

 

To me Milroe is better right now because you can't teach accuracy 

Not teaching  accuracy  is a myth especially  if the inaccuracy  is due to technique.

[Nate!]

On 11/25/2024 at 11:27 AM, Patrick Miller said:

…..do you think he is our franchise qb? Are you so confident that you Would  pass up a first round talent qb next year? I think he’s made improvements but I need to see more. What say you?

Look at next year’s QB class.  It’s not good.  There isn’t a first round talent to be had with where we are picking 

[compuls1v3]

17 hours ago, EasyE said:

We agree to disagree and I love that and you have several other points that are great about Downs.

 

Alec Pierce is a top wr on a different team and we could say that about all the Colts wrs IMO.

 

But having coaching that can't help AR be more relaxed on easy open guys. IMO are coaches automatically wanting to keep their jobs over AR making big plays just running.

 

So where are the colts at after AR gets hurt running the ball?

 

We are looking at over aged QB again!!

AR has so many missed throws this season,  I can't blame a receiver.

 

When I see a receiver miss a catch.. I'm upset cause it will never be there again the rest of the game like.. lol 

I think we agree on some things, but not others.  I agree we need coaching to help AR get some layups.  

[compuls1v3]

17 hours ago, EasyE said:

@compuls1v3

I want to add at this, do you believe Colts are calling the right plays? Do you believe JT is running the ball enough to make AR job easier?

 

Do you believe it's the QB that makes the WR looks that great or the WR knows what he is doing?

 

I'm just asking cause I'm intrigued on others options!!

I believe the Colts are calling too many longer passes, not enough Easy E stuff  

I thinks the Colts need to get JT more involved.  He's a playmaker, but we aren't getting him involved in creative ways.  I get our O-Line has 3 backups in there, so be more creative is my thought.

I believe a great QB can make an average WR look good.  The pass catching mistakes, aside from the Downs TD drop, were from either a Rookie WR, a RB, or a TE.  Pierce was making major catches for AR game 1, and continues to make plays down the field.  I don't think WR is our problem.  Not sure what you mean about the WR knows what he is doing.  Would you please explain that a little more to me?

 

[compuls1v3]

17 hours ago, EasyE said:

@compuls1v3

We both love the same wr

Downs reminds me of Marvin, just no Peyton throwing to him.

 

So is Downs the better receiver or Marvin?

 

Haha 

 

Don't answer I'm just on my cancer drugs and don't know if I'm starting a good conversation or starting a argument.

 

I'm logging out, love you Colt fans.

 

Be back tomorrow and read more..

I think Downs was a great pickup by the Colts.  The most pro ready receiver we've had in a long time.  Marvin is still one of my favs, I don't think Downs has edged him out yet :D.  I wish you a speedy recovery on your journey, and may you recover to full health.