Time to evaluate

[Moosejawcolt]

2 hours ago, IndyEV said:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2024/11/24/colts-penalties-lions-steichen/76554089007/
 

Anyone else tired of Steichens stupid coach speak? Says the same crap every week! He ain’t ever gonna clean up 💩 with this team! 

Actually, he's very much like the tight lipped coaches that do excel.  He won't give the media anything to run with. Very protective of his team. I just hope he makes them accountable behind closed doors. Ever see a Belichick post game interview??.

[JediXMan]

1 hour ago, Patrick Miller said:

When are the Colts going to give Mallory a legit shot?

 

I mean he can't be any worse than Granson bad awareness or Ogletree bad hands. Why not see what the kid as got?

[OLD FAN MAN]

2 hours ago, IndyEV said:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2024/11/24/colts-penalties-lions-steichen/76554089007/
 

Anyone else tired of Steichens stupid coach speak? Says the same crap every week! He ain’t ever gonna clean up 💩 with this team! 

this late in the season and he still says have to clean things up!!!!!!

[boo2202]

2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

If Ballard and Bradley are here next season, then Jim has completely lost it and is content with mediocrity. 
 

Disagree with this all you want, but this franchise is not in a good spot and fans are going to start abandoning ship. 

Half the stadium was lions fans today. Think my have already grabbed the life vest and jumped ship. 

[OLD FAN MAN]

ballard has assembled a below average team. his record shows that he is not good at judging talent. we get a lot of penalties called on us because our players are not good and have to hold and grab our oline cant run block or pass block and nelson our best is getting beat alot. our tight ends are way below average. the good teams have players hurt and they seem to have capable back ups while ballard depends on rookies. after 8 years his method is not working he should have been fired years ago for not drafting a qb and using past their prime qbs

[LJpalmbeacher2]

My 2¢:

The main problems with the colts is from management/coaching. But they are the colts and it's usually historically doubtful that bringing in a new regime will make a difference. 

 

The jury is still out and will continue to be out for awhile on AR because of his youth and inexperience, he may be a total bust OR he could turn out to be a Elite QB, one who can totally carry his team on his back against elite teams. 

He probably won't ever be a accurate passer but shows flashes of what he's capable of in the future. 

The roster is not that bad and has some very good players like JT, Buckner, Grover, Pittman, Downs and the WR group is better than it has been in recent years. It badly needs a playmaker #1 star AND a playmaker #1 TE. A young QBs best friend is a good TE and AR lacks that and a receiver like Chase.

 

A different philosophy at GM is needed and a coach that can shield AR's weaknesses and better utilize his strengths, without getting him killed lol. What's with AR taking on defenders with his shoulder? Kent Sterling said AR is not elusive and doesn't avoid any tacklers. If that doesn't change then AR will continue to not be

 

available and "The Backwards March for Arch"

 

will be the chant here.   Btw, I came up with that chant, as far as I know, and should get royalties for teams that will tank for the young Manning that plays for the Longhorns. 

 

As far as today is concerned, the Colts didn't play that badly against a much better roster and coaching staff. 

And those knocking AR, today AR led his team in both passing & rushing!!! How many QBs can say that? 

 

Happy Turkey Day to everyone 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

46 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

this late in the season and he still says have to clean things up!!!!!!

 

....but remember, its a process. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

12 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

....but remember, its a process. 

I  am not sure what fans want him yo say

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Steinchen is more than a HC, he's also the Press Secretary. His job is to be the front man for the organization and deflect/answer questions from the press while saying as little as possible.

 

That's why they have big salaries, they coach the team as well as  face the media so the GM and owner doesn't have to..... when was the last time you've seen and heard from Ballard and Irsay?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

Steinchen is more than a HC, he's also the Press Secretary. His job is to be the front man for the organization and deflect/answer questions from the press while saying as little as possible.

 

That's why they have big salaries, they coach the team as well as  face the media so the GM and owner doesn't have to..... when was the last time you've seen and heard from Ballard and Irsay?

Ballard is a coward. He lets every coach fall on his sword. Most GM would of been out having a presser when that Flacco mess happened 

[krunk]

Things will improve substantially once we can get the offense to learn how to consistently put drives together and finish. We are sporadic with that right now. Also will help to get our missing pieces back on the line so the running game can open up more.

[tomloge1]

8 hours ago, jbaron04 said:

Did you watch the game ?

I saw parts of it on the Red Zone channel.  

[Breeze]

9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Of course you want to evaluate.   The Colts just lost to the best team in the NFL right now and didn’t play all that badly.   Granted, we didn’t look great either.  But the announcers were heaping praise on our defense throughout the game.   
 

Why isn’t the end of the season the right time to evaluate?   That’s when 32 teams do that?   
 

There's no shame in losing to the Lions.   Of course it doesn’t help that three of our 5 OL starters are rookies.  And I saw both Nelson and Smith get penalties on key plays.   It’s hard to generate a good offense when the OL isn’t playing as well as you’d want.   
 

But deciding that today is the right time to evaluate is a VERY Moose-like thing to do.  Totally unsurprising.  

What’s up with you throwing context and reasonableness into a message board?  That’s not how it works!  

[tfunky14]

10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We lose to the Lions and almost everyone says blow it up, GEEEEEEEEZ 

 

Agree, too many quitters on this forum.   

[richard pallo]

10 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

My 2¢:

The main problems with the colts is from management/coaching. But they are the colts and it's usually historically doubtful that bringing in a new regime will make a difference. 

 

The jury is still out and will continue to be out for awhile on AR because of his youth and inexperience, he may be a total bust OR he could turn out to be a Elite QB, one who can totally carry his team on his back against elite teams. 

He probably won't ever be a accurate passer but shows flashes of what he's capable of in the future. 

The roster is not that bad and has some very good players like JT, Buckner, Grover, Pittman, Downs and the WR group is better than it has been in recent years. It badly needs a playmaker #1 star AND a playmaker #1 TE. A young QBs best friend is a good TE and AR lacks that and a receiver like Chase.

 

A different philosophy at GM is needed and a coach that can shield AR's weaknesses and better utilize his strengths, without getting him killed lol. What's with AR taking on defenders with his shoulder? Kent Sterling said AR is not elusive and doesn't avoid any tacklers. If that doesn't change then AR will continue to not be

 

available and "The Backwards March for Arch"

 

will be the chant here.   Btw, I came up with that chant, as far as I know, and should get royalties for teams that will tank for the young Manning that plays for the Longhorns. 

 

As far as today is concerned, the Colts didn't play that badly against a much better roster and coaching staff. 

And those knocking AR, today AR led his team in both passing & rushing!!! How many QBs can say that? 

 

Happy Turkey Day to everyone 

That’s not a Turkey.   That’s a Flamingo!   Lol

[richard pallo]

10 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I  am not sure what fans want him yo say

Yup.  Every coach says the same things after a loss.  “It’s on me”.   Coaching 101.  First chapter.  You would think fans would realize that by now.

[Defjamz26]

Serious answer:

 

-New GM

-New HC

-New DC

-Wayne can stay as WR coach, but every other position coach can go

-Trade Pittman (not playing bad, but we need the draft capital+Mitchell can be the future)

-Release/Let every TE walk

-Trade EJ Speed and Zaire Franklin

-Also I love JT but I’m almost wondering about trading him too. 
 

Keep AR for now. If he Bombs next season, get Arch Manning in 2026.

[Indeee]

I want to talk about our skill players on offense

 

I agree, like many others, that the TE group all need to be sent packing. The drop by Olgetree yesterday was inexcusable. 

 

The WR's:

 

Pittman: Not worth the money they gave him. Yes, has been playing hurt and yes, he makes some grabs, but he doesn't move the needle at all. To me he is a bottom tier WR 2. A Jag

 

Pierce: He was wide open yesterday and AR flat out missed him. Even though I have never been a fan, in moments he has been ok but again he's like a worse version of Pittman. Just a WR3 Jag.

 

Downs: Top tier 2 similar to TY based on what he does and what he can do. This guy is a keeper and IMO the best receiver we have on this team.

 

Mitchell: Doesn't play enough to really evaluate him. Should be on the field a lot more imo.

 

JT: Looks old at times or somethings up. Too many ups and downs. Could be bad O=line play but I think there's more going on there.

 

AR: Last two weeks he has looked better and yesterday there were a couple inexcusable drops 1 by Olgetree and another by Pittman where the ball was on point and the receivers botched it. I also have noticed this happening more frequently than it should. I'm not sure what it is about the ball AR throws but it seems like these guys can't always adjust or have a hard time catching it at times.

 

Then AR's accuracy. Major problem. I mean Pierce was wide open yesterday by a mile and AR chucked it over his head by a mile. 

 

I'm not sure the consistency will ever be there with this guy, which is why I'm on the side that I don't believe he will be what we truly need at the most important position, however the jury is still out.

 

-Peace

 

 

[stitches]

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

After today I think AR is it. I think he played a really good game overall. Not perfect of course, but considering he HAD to throw and the Lions knew it I don't think he could've done much better. Playing against a Super Bowl favorite with an injured Oline and so many mental errors by the team I'm very happy with what he showed today. I think we can build a winning team around him.

I am still not sure AR is it... but I think he's showing enough to warrant another year to evaluate without us going hard at another QB(early round pick).

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

I don't think there's one TE in that room we NEED to keep. Outside of a few plays from Mo here and there it's just almost always bad.

Agreed on the TEs. This has been a problem for a while now. Ever since Ebron used all his Luck magic in that one season and Doyle retired... we haven't really had a reliable TE. 

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

We need an answer at RB. I love JT, but when our opponents stack the box (or just have good DTs) he's more or less out of the game. Some of that is of course playcalling. Looking at what the Lions have done this season and how they do it it's pretty obvious our run plays are hopelessly unimaginative by comparison.

RB is the position that is most reliant on other positions to do their job. It is the position that suffers most attrition. It's in general the position that you can most easily replace in the league. I also think we need to be using him more. If you are paying him, use him. But most ideally IMO we wouldn't be paying big time money to a single RB. 

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

We need better Guard depth. The Glowinski signing may be just that, but we'll see. Tucker will get better with more practice and an offseason of S&C, but right now he's barely good enough to be a backup.

I've been kind of reluctant to crap on the OL this year. We've had a lot of injuries and no team can really survive this. Take away 3 starters from any OL and they are likely not going to do well over the long run. With that said, I agree the depth of the line probably could have been better. OG3 can't be UDFA rookie for you. This just can't happen. 

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

I'm just not sold on Franklin or Speed. I don't know if it's because of what Gus asks them to do, but they just can't cover. That area around our LBs is just wide open space for our opponents.

They've been underwhelming. I never thought Franklin is more than a solid backup and this was the reason I didn't like us extending him. 

17 hours ago, Solid84 said:

I'd really like for us to get an elite outside CB. Womack has shown flashes this season, but he's had just as many misses in recent games. Jones is just as much up and down as Womack.

 

We also don't have a deep safety in my opinion. Blackmon and Cross are both box safeties.

 

DB group is what we thought it would be, but in a certain way... they are probably not the biggest problem of this defense this year. Agree we need a outside CB, though. 

 

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

14 hours ago, richard pallo said:

This is wild.  We have now moved up to overreaction Sunday.  We lost to the best team in the league by actually beating ourselves with penalties and poor execution.  It was a failed effort.  A lot of teams took tough losses today.  It happens to even the good teams.  The sky is not falling.  On to the Patriots.

Good post.   Agree with every word.  Hope others will read it.   Glad you wrote it.  

[CR91]

I'm not gonna overreact losing to the lions, but the rest of the schedule needs to be wins imo for Ballard and Shane to avoid getting fired. Even the broncos game is winnable and easily the most important game left on the schedule 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

That’s not a Turkey.   That’s a Flamingo!   Lol

[2006Coltsbestever]

17 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Good post.   Agree with every word.  Hope others will read it.   Glad you wrote it.  

I read it and gave him a LIKE. 

[IndyColtsFan411]

18 hours ago, tomloge1 said:

The entire team needs to be torn down completely.  Front office, management, coaches, players, etc.  Complete garbage.  Richardson can't pass.  He gets lucky occassionally on some mid range and long passes, but he is not an NFL Quarterback.  I was hoping things would work out, but it doesn't look like they will work out.  He probably never should have been picked to begin with.  But the problem is not only him.  The entire team just plain sucks.  

If AR could catch the ball reliably, he could be the TE this desparately needs and was hoping Woods was going to be.  He's a great athlete and runs well, but his accuracy is atrocious.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, IndyColtsFan411 said:

If AR could catch the ball reliably, he could be the TE this desparately needs and was hoping Woods was going to be.  He's a great athlete and runs well, but his accuracy is atrocious.

So, when we win the next 5 in a row will your opinion change? I am taking the Colts in every single one of them. I have picked against them against the very good-great teams this year and did yesterday but other than playing at Denver, they will be favored in every game coming up. I think we beat Denver, we had Houston beat twice and they are better than Denver.

[IndyColtsFan411]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

So, when we win the next 5 in a row will your opinion change? I am taking the Colts in every single one of them. I have picked against them against the very good-great teams this year and did yesterday but other than playing at Denver, they will be favored in every game coming up. I think we beat Denver, we had Houston beat twice and they are better than Denver.

Not unless his accuracy issues change.  To me completing 2/3 of passes is the benchmark of a great QB (plus making the proper reads of defense, calling audibles as needed to avoid a bad loss), but I could live with AR completing 55% of passes.  He is below 50% for the year.  Yesterday, he didn't have much time to make a pass, but under 50% for the season is ridiculous and not befitting a starting (supposed franchis) QB.  I like AR, I really do and was excited to watch him play.  However, his play has not lived up to even my lowest expectations.  He needs to reach out the Peyton, hell even Brady to get pointers how to be a better QB in the NFL.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, IndyColtsFan411 said:

Not unless his accuracy issues change.  To me completing 2/3 of passes is the benchmark of a great QB (plus making the proper reads of defense, calling audibles as needed to avoid a bad loss), but I could live with AR completing 55% of passes.  He is below 50% for the year.  Yesterday, he didn't have much time to make a pass, but under 50% for the season is ridiculous and not befitting a starting (supposed franchis) QB.  I like AR, I really do and was excited to watch him play.  However, his play has not lived up to even my lowest expectations.  He needs to reach out the Peyton, hell even Brady to get pointers how to be a better QB in the NFL.

Let's see how it plays out, I would bet by the end of the season he will be around 55%. The competition gets weaker now. Remember Andrew Luck was 54% in his rookie season and was awesome in college with plenty of experience.

[IndyColtsFan411]

4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Let's see how it plays out, I would bet by the end of the season he will be around 55%. The competition gets weaker now. Remember Andrew Luck was 54% in his rookie season and was awesome in college with plenty of experience.

I hope you are correct.  The difference was the experience in college that AR does not have.  If AR can become a poor man's Lamar Jackson, I would be ecstatic.

[Superman]

17 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

But deciding that today is the right time to evaluate is a VERY Moose-like thing to do.  Totally unsurprising.  

 

I view most things very differently than moose, and I have no agenda.

 

But this comparison should make it abundantly clear that the Colts don't have the right pieces to compete with the class of the NFL. We're not even close. Yeah, we can put together a competitive game, maybe squeeze out a win vs a good team every once in a while, but the best teams are completely out of our league. The Lions weren't even at their best yesterday, but they cruised to victory because they were more disciplined. So they're not just more talented than the Colts, they're also better coached.

 

And the fact that it's the Lions is especially noteworthy, because they've been awful most of my life, even when Stafford was an all-star caliber QB. Four years into the Holmes/Campbell era, they're legit SB contenders. They won 3 games in 2021. In 2023, they won their division, and two playoff games. They have a pretty good QB who looks like an MVP candidate, despite his obvious limitations, because they play complementary football. They aren't just good; they're dominant in every phase of the game. 

 

The Colts are so far behind the best teams in the league, and it's not just because we don't have a QB. Acknowledging the vast chasm between the Colts and the Lions is a wake up call. We talk about the Colts going 9-8 last season, being a dropped pass away from winning the division, setting a franchise record in sacks, etc., a bunch of things that we hope are indications that the arrow is pointed in the right direction for this team. But if you zoom out and look at the big picture, the Colts have been struggling to tread water for a while now. And comparing them with a team that was drowning, and is now on their way to the mountain top, and they've done it in 4 years, should be eye-opening.

[Zoltan]

Definitely time for a change, I feel we are in Einsteins definition of insanity. “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

[IinD]

10 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

Definitely time for a change, I feel we are in Einsteins definition of insanity. “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

The thing that sucks is we don't know if it's 'bossman' that's ok with this, then we as fans are screwed. 

 

If Jim is happy making money and putting out a .500 product then that sucks for us.

 

Hopefully we become one of those important teams again and not just hang around that 20-30 range of importance in the league.

[Solid84]

2 hours ago, stitches said:

I am still not sure AR is it... but I think he's showing enough to warrant another year to evaluate without us going hard at another QB(early round pick).

Agreed on the TEs. This has been a problem for a while now. Ever since Ebron used all his Luck magic in that one season and Doyle retired... we haven't really had a reliable TE. 

RB is the position that is most reliant on other positions to do their job. It is the position that suffers most attrition. It's in general the position that you can most easily replace in the league. I also think we need to be using him more. If you are paying him, use him. But most ideally IMO we wouldn't be paying big time money to a single RB. 

I've been kind of reluctant to crap on the OL this year. We've had a lot of injuries and no team can really survive this. Take away 3 starters from any OL and they are likely not going to do well over the long run. With that said, I agree the depth of the line probably could have been better. OG3 can't be UDFA rookie for you. This just can't happen. 

They've been underwhelming. I never thought Franklin is more than a solid backup and this was the reason I didn't like us extending him. 

 

DB group is what we thought it would be, but in a certain way... they are probably not the biggest problem of this defense this year. Agree we need a outside CB, though. 

 

 

 

I’m not saying AR definitely will be elite, but I think he definitely will be “good enough” to build around. Sort of like a Purdy level, but hopefully more. 
 

With the picks we’ve used at the TE position it’s disappointing we don’t even have a servicable player there.

 

I was against paying JT. He’s a great at what he does, but he’s so reliant on our Oline giving him lanes. He can’t run around the tackles and he’s not a good receiver. I’d like it if we leaned more into the run game to support AR, but that requires a talent infusion and more creative playcalling I think. 
 

I thought the Oline started out really good this season, but everyone except Nelson have been injured at least one game. Bortolini and Goncalves have done well stepping up I think, but Tucker isn’t ready to start. I hope Glow can plug that hole. 
 

I’m not at all a fan of our LBs. I think for Gus’ scheme to truly work we need a does-everything 3-down LB at Mike and Franklin just ain’t it. It’s unfortunate we had to let a guy like Okereke go, but it made sense at the time. 
 

There nothing about our secondary that makes me think we shouldn’t keep throwing picks at it. It’s unfortunate Ballard is so against getting FA help, because I think that could go a long way. 

[John Waylon]

 

Something something something something definition of insanity something something. 

[stitches]

10 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

I’m not saying AR definitely will be elite, but I think he definitely will be “good enough” to build around. Sort of like a Purdy level, but hopefully more. 
 

With the picks we’ve used at the TE position it’s disappointing we don’t even have a servicable player there.

 

I was against paying JT. He’s a great at what he does, but he’s so reliant on our Oline giving him lanes. He can’t run around the tackles and he’s not a good receiver. I’d like it if we leaned more into the run game to support AR, but that requires a talent infusion and more creative playcalling I think. 
 

I thought the Oline started out really good this season, but everyone except Nelson have been injured at least one game. Bortolini and Goncalves have done well stepping up I think, but Tucker isn’t ready to start. I hope Glow can plug that hole. 
 

I’m not at all a fan of our LBs. I think for Gus’ scheme to truly work we need a does-everything 3-down LB at Mike and Franklin just ain’t it. It’s unfortunate we had to let a guy like Okereke go, but it made sense at the time. 
 

There nothing about our secondary that makes me think we shouldn’t keep throwing picks at it. It’s unfortunate Ballard is so against getting FA help, because I think that could go a long way. 

Imagine if we could have a LB with 7 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 2 recovered fumbles, 10 QB hits, 8 TFLs and 5 passes defended... For about the same money we extended Franklin for. Hmmm... 🤔 Big knock on him though - he wasn't drafted by the MJ of GMs Chris Ballard...must not be very good.

[Solid84]

I agree with all you wrote Supe, but wanted to comment on this especially, because I think it's some teams need to take notice of:

39 minutes ago, Superman said:

And comparing them with a team that was drowning, and is now on their way to the mountain top, and they've done it in 4 years, should be eye-opening.

I think it's especially worth talking about in comparison to the Lions.

 

Usually when a team does a 180 and become contenders it's because they landed their franchise QB. The Lions already had that with Stafford and arguable traded to a worse QB in Goff. They just play complementary football and "hide" his deficiencies with better play in other areas.

 

I think the Lions are playing a style of football teams will be moving towards in the near future - more rushing. This exploits the 2-deep defense most teams are playing now.

 

Holmes and Campbell have done a tremendous job in Detroit.

[Solid84]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

Imagine if we could have a LB with 7 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 2 recovered fumbles, 10 QB hits, 8 TFLs and 5 passes defended... For about the same money we extended Franklin for. Hmmm... 🤔

Luvu?

[ColtStrong2013]

31 minutes ago, IinD said:

The thing that sucks is we don't know if it's 'bossman' that's ok with this, then we as fans are screwed. 

 

If Jim is happy making money and putting out a .500 product then that sucks for us.

 

Hopefully we become one of those important teams again and not just hang around that 20-30 range of importance in the league.

this is what I’ve been saying for a while. Jim talks a big game about wanting a winner, but at the end of the day does he want to risk becoming a real loser? Like a consistent bottom of the barrel loser that can’t get out? My buddy and I went to the dolphins game and at the end he looked at me (this is a decorated Navy vet / instructor and current successful businessman) and said “look at this… ugly game but kept mostly everyone in their seats until the very end.” He just laughed. What we are seeing is difficult as a true fan, frustrating no doubt and even infuriating for many. But how many true fans go to games and buy the merchandise, get drunk on overpriced beers and all that? I walk around Lucas oil and it’s a bunch of people that don’t care about the game, it’s a social event, it’s full of chicks posing for Instagram. What we are really seeing is an incredible marketing campaign by the Colts organization, and one that if they can get over the hump and become contender again, would be massive for the organization and city of Indianapolis. But I think they are ok with the current results. I really do. They see Ballard’s process as really low risk from an organizational standpoint. Maybe not high ceiling, but higher floor than trying again.

[ColtsGermany]

I thought long about the following and did some research.

Don't get me wrong: Captain Hindsight is not what I'm looking for but.....

 

I think this team is build wrong or at least not for modern age football.

It started when AL retired, but I think where Ballard really messed up is before the 2020 season. Sure Rivers got us a good time and Buckner is heck of a player and our best Def player since years.(Trade with 49ers that year)

 

But did Ballard really think we're a 39 yr old gunslinger and a DT away from a SB?

 

In that draft, he should've traded up with the Giants at 4 and take a QB and at least TRY to solve the QB issue for the future. 

OR: completely blow it up to get a top 5 pick in 2021.

 

What followed Rivers,we all know. Sure AR looks promising the last 2 games andaybe he will be the answer....But everything that led us to the mess we're in now could have been avoided (one way or the other) if he tried to get a franchise QB. Either we get one and build from there on, or the drafted Qb fails and Ballard would be gone by at least 2023 if not earlier.

 

All that trade down stuff out of round one got us some decent players, but never a true playmaker.

That leads me to the Lions game....

They're an awesome team that was build to succeed on offense in the way football is played nowadays. Playmakers.

Since Holmes is there, they just hit on their 1st rounders every year.

They have Goff at QB. Sure a decent QB,but not top 5. And still he looks (mostly) like a top 5 qb because the organization get him into position to look like that and succeed with incredible talent around him.

 

And we surrounded our QBs with...yes,a few decent players, lots of average talent and some bad players...

Not the best environment for a QB that is clearly a Project and needs a lot of development. 

There is so much more running through my head right now with what I think is wrong with the Colts, but this is already a lot to read...

 

Btw: I will always support every player on the Colts roster and root for the team. I'm sure most of them really try their best. Bit I think Ballard should be gone at the end of the year. Always liked him,but the holes in this roster are just too big to ignore anymore.

[Solid84]

11 minutes ago, stitches said:

Imagine if we could have a LB with 7 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 2 recovered fumbles, 10 QB hits, 8 TFLs and 5 passes defended... For about the same money we extended Franklin for. Hmmm... 🤔 Big knock on him though - he wasn't drafted by the MJ of GMs Chris Ballard...must not be very good.

Yeah I remember we were talking about him this offseason. Would've been a great Colt.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, ColtsGermany said:

I thought long about the following and did some research.

Don't get me wrong: Captain Hindsight is not what I'm looking for but.....

 

I think this team is build wrong or at least not for modern age football.

It started when AL retired, but I think where Ballard really messed up is before the 2020 season. Sure Rivers got us a good time and Buckner is heck of a player and our best Def player since years.(Trade with 49ers that year)

 

But did Ballard really think we're a 39 yr old gunslinger and a DT away from a SB?

 

In that draft, he should've traded up with the Giants at 4 and take a QB and at least TRY to solve the QB issue for the future. 

OR: completely blow it up to get a top 5 pick in 2021.

 

What followed Rivers,we all know. Sure AR looks promising the last 2 games andaybe he will be the answer....But everything that led us to the mess we're in now could have been avoided (one way or the other) if he tried to get a franchise QB. Either we get one and build from there on, or the drafted Qb fails and Ballard would be gone by at least 2023 if not earlier.

 

All that trade down stuff out of round one got us some decent players, but never a true playmaker.

That leads me to the Lions game....

They're an awesome team that was build to succeed on offense in the way football is played nowadays. Playmakers.

Since Holmes is there, they just hit on their 1st rounders every year.

They have Goff at QB. Sure a decent QB,but not top 5. And still he looks (mostly) like a top 5 qb because the organization get him into position to look like that and succeed with incredible talent around him.

 

And we surrounded our QBs with...yes,a few decent players, lots of average talent and some bad players...

Not the best environment for a QB that is clearly a Project and needs a lot of development. 

There is so much more running through my head right now with what I think is wrong with the Colts, but this is already a lot to read...

 

Btw: I will always support every player on the Colts roster and root for the team. I'm sure most of them really try their best. Bit I think Ballard should be gone at the end of the year. Always liked him,but the holes in this roster are just too big to ignore anymore.

The issue wasn’t rivers. What a perfect opportunity to take love and sit him a year.  This isn’t about AR because I think he will be just fine. It’s about Ballard continually delaying a QB in the draft. We actually had the capital to trade the  13 and get Buck and get love.