First two draft picks

[JediXMan]

Should be TE and LB  These two groups need a overhaul badly.  Then DL/OL etc.

[Bravo]

Can we draft a new GM?

[Thunderbolt]

Coaches are the problems, inability to make the right calls. Should be a little more diverse calls. Screen passes, short passes etc…Where’s JT, he seems to  be “MIA” the last two games?

[Hawkeyecolt]

The LB’s are brutally bad.  Twice getting beat on runs on 3rd and long. Not there to help on WR screens even when the WR brings it back inside. One play neither Speed or Franklin were looking when the ball was snapped.  The dline did a good job all day but the LB’s were awful. 
 

I had high hopes for Woods but we can’t count on him. I’ve never seen Ogletree drop a ball like that but they have to get a #1 TE.  

[jbaron04]

15 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Should be TE and LB  These two groups need an overhaul badly.  Then DL/OL etc.

TE and a true Will not a late round over achiever. 

[bluephantom87]

I just hope it's not Ballard making the pick or it'll be the same ol same ol. A high RAS score type player that comes in the later rds due to a trade down but is an overachiever from a mostly non powerhouse college team that "fits" the Colt's way. What that is now remains to be seen because winning and challenging for anything under Ballard is a lost art.

[IinD]

5 minutes ago, bluephantom87 said:

I just hope it's not Ballard making the pick or it'll be the same ol same ol. A high RAS score type player that comes in the later rds due to a trade down but is an overachiever from a mostly non powerhouse college team that "fits" the Colt's way. What that is now remains to be seen because winning and challenging for anything under Ballard is a lost art.

Agreed. 

 

I'm no Ballard hater, but he is who he is at this point. 

He'll do 3 things well then screw up 3 or 4 to offset any good he did. 

 

We need a new leader at the top (I'm not talking owner stuff, strictly GM talk).

[IinD]

8 minutes ago, bluephantom87 said:

I just hope it's not Ballard making the pick or it'll be the same ol same ol. A high RAS score type player that comes in the later rds due to a trade down but is an overachiever from a mostly non powerhouse college team that "fits" the Colt's way. What that is now remains to be seen because winning and challenging for anything under Ballard is a lost art.

Yup. We just seem to be at the same spot every year lately. The 7th seed or just missing out. 

You know that graphic they show every year towards the end of the season when the playoffs are on the line..'in the hunt'.... That's us unfortunately.

[ImissPeyton18]

5 minutes ago, IinD said:

Yup. We just seem to be at the same spot every year lately. The 7th seed or just missing out. 

You know that graphic they show every year towards the end of the season when the playoffs are on the line..'in the hunt'.... That's us unfortunately.

With the talent on this team, including coaches and coordinators, being in the hunt is only due to the fact the Colts are in a very weak division as is most of the afc divisions. usually one team pulling away and all the others vying for wildcards.

There needs to be an attitude change which comes with coaches and GM acquisitions and additions.

 

 

 

[JediXMan]

 

[CS Coltsfan]

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

[JediXMan]

1 minute ago, CS Coltsfan said:

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

 

Got to move on he's a dinosaur in a evolving NFL.

[Boondoggle]

If Indy is smart in this next draft they'll just take the best playmaker regardless of position.  They lack elite players.  Way too many Ballard projections who aren't good enough to do the job.  He needs to take a step back on UPSIDE in his draft evaluations and start focusing on production and mental toughness.

[Jz0204945]

9 minutes ago, CS Coltsfan said:

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

Bradley better be gone.

[ImissPeyton18]

The only way you can get away with a zone defense is with a lead and constant pressure from the front four.

if the opposing QB is mobile or if he is good at anticipation, the zone is beaten every time. The Colts do not get constant pressure without blitzing the corners and the linebackers can't cover either.

they are in constant need of quality players at LB,DE,CB and safety. That just about covers the entire defense unfortunately.

During the successful years, Colts never have had a great defense. Just a great offense that could outscore anybody.

Mathis And Freeney made up for a lot of short comings on those defenses. Ballard has to draft proven football players period.

He has to spend the draft capital and the money for free agents to fill holes. After 8 years of not fixing anything, the job has become an impossible task for him or anyone else.

[Hawkeyecolt]

27 minutes ago, CS Coltsfan said:

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

They have changed their scheme a lot this year.  More Cover 2 than 3.  More Cover 4 this year.   A lot more blitzing.  Gus needs a quality , stud LB

[CS Coltsfan]

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Pro bowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimidate anyone...

 

[OLD FAN MAN]

the oline cant open holes and they allow pressure on the qb

[richard pallo]

34 minutes ago, CS Coltsfan said:

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

Bradley is staying unless the defense totally falls apart and they are showing no signs of that.  Cooter might be in trouble though.  The offense can’t stay on the field and score.  We will see how the rest of the season plays out.  But if Shane has to find a scapegoat it might be Cooter.

[MacDee1975]

2 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Should be TE and LB  These two groups need a overhaul badly.  Then DL/OL etc.

 

How on earth can the DL and OL need to be "overhauled" with the amount of resources put towards both in the last 5 years?

 

[Pat Curtis]

The LB's and TE's are putrid.  Zero impact players at both positions.

Blackmon is invisible.

Paye has been MIA for most of the year.

 

BUT....I think our CB's have done better than most would have predicted.  Will only get better when (or if) Brents gets healthy.

[Moosejawcolt]

1 hour ago, bluephantom87 said:

I just hope it's not Ballard making the pick or it'll be the same ol same ol. A high RAS score type player that comes in the later rds due to a trade down but is an overachiever from a mostly non powerhouse college team that "fits" the Colt's way. What that is now remains to be seen because winning and challenging for anything under Ballard is a lost art.

I predicted early that last season that they were going to fire  Ballard and SS would bring in his own guy from Philly this year. I waxqtongnl,lol. However, Ballard is gone this year, and SS will have proved he is the guy to mold AR. Let him pick a personal guy like Shanahan, and Carrol did. Let it be his show. I think SS is getting better. He seemed to hit a rough spot but it looks like he had a lot going on with the AR situation

 

[bluephantom87]

42 minutes ago, Boondoggle said:

If Indy is smart in this next draft they'll just take the best playmaker regardless of position.  They lack elite players.  Way too many Ballard projections who aren't good enough to do the job.  He needs to take a step back on UPSIDE in his draft evaluations and start focusing on production and mental toughness.

 

Agree but the arrogant Ballard has basically said coming into the season that he believes in his team building philosophy and process regardless amid chatter of his limited success. Ballard also doubled down and said if it gets him fired then so be it. 

[Solid84]

2 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Should be TE and LB  These two groups need a overhaul badly.  Then DL/OL etc.

I agree. We need a TE who can be a threat in the passing game.

 

I thought Franklin and Speed got exposed today. We know they aren't good in coverage, but they keep showing they can't shed blockers either.

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, CS Coltsfan said:

If we keep Bradley ... we have to get a shut down Corner or Safety.../ Probowl ILB ... like he had is Seattle...  if Not we will continue to get gashed... IMHO.. he had 3 Wagner, Sherman &  Thomas... we do not change our schemes nor intimate anyway...

 

There are not really shutdown zone corners,  also this team does not need to keep Bradley.  People need to stop mistaking thinking the defense played better than the offense for meaning they played well.

[Dingus McGirt]

1 hour ago, Jz0204945 said:

Bradley better be gone.

Nah.  Irsay likes his boys.

[GoColts8818]

This team needs a tightend so bad it’s not even funny.  Hopefully they can figure out a way to get the kid out of Penn State in the draft.

[Jz0204945]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

Nah.  Irsay likes his boys.

Ya i know that is why he is part of the problem.

[husker61]

It only took a couple years for all the forum gm’s to see that Franklyn is a bad lb. I have been saying this for years!

 

I also have been saying grandson is bad for years, that finally catching on here.

 

i said not to give jt the big contract, starting to see some basking of that.

 

forun gm’s are great Monday morning qb’s, that’s why I just can’t take most of the posts serious.

 

 

[ProblChld32]

2 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Should be TE and LB  These two groups need an overhaul badly.  Then DL/OL etc.

I’m sorry but we need to wait until the offseason and after FA to see what positions need to be addressed. 

[Moosejawcolt]

4 minutes ago, ProblChld32 said:

I’m sorry but we need to wait until the offseason and after FA to see what positions need to be addressed. 

The off season is here whether u want to believe it or not. Been evaluating this team for years and it is obvious what it needs. Playing teams like Detroit highlights your needs. Even though we hung in there, it never seemed like Detroit was in trouble.   Playing the crap teams awaiting us tells us nothing other than mask our deficits.

[coltsfanatic24]

We currently have the 13th pick in the draft. In this range the best TE should be available. However, CB is a major need as well. I think it will be TE or CB in the first round. 
 

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft

[Pat Curtis]

12 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said:

We currently have the 13th pick in the draft. In this range the best TE should be available. However, CB is a major need as well. I think it will be TE or CB in the first round. 
 

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft

 

I think our CB play has been better than most expected.  If we need any help in the secondary it's at Safety.  We need a playmaker back there. 

[richard pallo]

16 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said:

We currently have the 13th pick in the draft. In this range the best TE should be available. However, CB is a major need as well. I think it will be TE or CB in the first round. 
 

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft

We traded our 13th pick for Buckner I believe.  Maybe Ballard trades it again.

[Boondoggle]

5 hours ago, bluephantom87 said:

 

Agree but the arrogant Ballard has basically said coming into the season that he believes in his team building philosophy and process regardless amid chatter of his limited success. Ballard also doubled down and said if it gets him fired then so be it. 

I actually like arrogance in an evaluator.  If you don't believe in your abilities that strongly, after all, why should the owner or fans.  But there is a point where results must be weighed and evaluated against your philosophies.  I assume he does that regardless of what he says in the media.  Nobody gets to where he is without very strong self evaluation.

[ProblChld32]

4 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

The off season is here whether u want to believe it or not. Been evaluating this team for years and it is obvious what it needs. Playing teams like Detroit highlights your needs. Even though we hung in there, it never seemed like Detroit was in trouble.   Playing the crap teams awaiting us tells us nothing other than mask our deficits.

Dude relax the off-season isn’t here, we haven’t signed any free agents, we don’t even know if Julian Blackman is returning next year. We don’t if they’re going to bring back Womack. If Blackman doesn’t return Safety automatically becomes need number 1 not TE or LBer. 

[John Hammonds]

15 hours ago, Boondoggle said:

If Indy is smart in this next draft they'll just take the best playmaker regardless of position.  They lack elite players.  Way too many Ballard projections who aren't good enough to do the job.  He needs to take a step back on UPSIDE in his draft evaluations and start focusing on production and mental toughness.

I agree.  They need to get a Great player regardless of position, instead of a Good player at a position of need.  Trade up rather than down.  Target the guy and take him.

[John Hammonds]

15 hours ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

They have changed their scheme a lot this year.  More Cover 2 than 3.  More Cover 4 this year.   A lot more blitzing.  Gus needs a quality , stud LB

My eye is still on Danny Stutsman from Oklahoma.  True, he's more Old School.  His pass coverage ability is a little suspect.  But he's a Shed Your Block, Fill Your Gap, Tackle With Authority kind of linebacker.  I'd much rather see that on defense than a guy who makes a dozen tackles after allowing 7 yard completion after 7 yard completion, over and over.

[Defjamz26]

To me the first 2 picks have to be some combination of TE, LB, or Corner. I know the secondary hasn’t been as bad as expected but until you have a lockdown corner that can take Nico Collins out of the game, you have to keep swinging there. You see Collins twice a year, so that’s your measuring stick. But at some point the Colts have to get past being the team that expects Jettas, Chase, Puka, Metcalf, Evans, etc… to always go off when they play them. Eventually you need someone who can shut at least a few of them. 
 

These LBs are both suspect too. Neither can cover, and both miss as many tackles as they make. They need to get off the damn podcast too. Maybe win something before you get on a weekly podcast in-season calling out Mcafee.

 

As I said in the Lions postgame topic, clear out the entire TE room after this season. Get 1-2 vets on small deals and draft Fanning Jr. or Tyler Warren. Every TE we have is bad. All 5 of them, including Woods on IR. 2025 season should have nothing but players who haven’t played for us before at TE.

[KB]

I don't see any LB or TE that would be worth a pick where we are on the first (projecting around the 15th). That can change this offseason, but I really don't see LB or TE being best player available in the first. Second round absolutely possible.