What do you think about Jack Del Rio for DC

[jemack]

The Colts could offer him an Assistant HC position. I wouldn't let him touch the offense. But he's got the experience to help guide SS, if needed.

[Colts1324]

Bradley has plenty of head coach experience & most fans don’t like him. I think we need something more innovative. Doesn’t have to be a young coach, but we need someone who is willing to change their philosophy as the game changes (unlike Bradley). 
 

The last few weeks he’s looked better. It will be interesting to see if he stays next year or not. I’d prefer he’s gone 

[ColtStrong2013]

21 minutes ago, jemack said:

The Colts could offer him an Assistant HC position. I wouldn't let him touch the offense. But he's got the experience to help guide SS, if needed.

 

Can he make it to the facility without an OWI? 

[AKB]

Bradley doesn't deserve to be fired. Despite what the narrative of fans is. 

[tomloge1]

I'll drink to that.  (sorry, couldn't resist.  I know it's in poor taste).  

[richard pallo]

18 minutes ago, AKB said:

Bradley doesn't deserve to be fired. Despite what the narrative of fans is. 

100% 

[2006Coltsbestever]

28 minutes ago, AKB said:

Bradley doesn't deserve to be fired. Despite what the narrative of fans is. 

I don't know what the answer is but I do know under Gus we don't blitz near enough (putting the fear into QB's and making them rush their throws) and we give up way too many 3rd and longs. As in 3rd and 8's, 9's, 10's, etc.. Can't win doing that. If you have a team 3rd and 8 or longer, you should hold them 75% of the time.

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I don't know what the answer is but I do know under Gus we don't blitz near enough (putting the fear into QB's and making rush their throws) and we give up way too many 3rd and longs. As in 3rd and 8's, 9's, 10's, etc.. Can't win doing that. If you have a team 3rd and 8 or longer, you should hold them 75% of the time.

You can win a lot of games doing that.  Unfortunately the offense has not been doing their part.  So I would say the answer is the offense needs to stay on the field and score some points.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

You can win a lot of games doing that.  Unfortunately the offense has not been doing their part.  So I would say the answer is the offense needs to stay on the field and score some points.

Really? So making opposing QB's on 3rd and long's look like Tom Brady every week is a recipe for winning? We have made bad QB's look great. Have you watched the last 2 years? I hate our scheme. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Our D is way to inconsistent; it can play well for a half like it did last week, then we start giving up huge chunks of yards at times.

[richard pallo]

11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Really? So making opposing QB's on 3rd and long's look like Tom Brady every week is a recipe for winning? We have made bad QB's look great. Have you watched the last 2 years? I hate our scheme. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. Our D is way to inconsistent; it can play well for a half like it did last week, then we start giving up huge chunks of yards at times.

We can disagree.  The offense hasn’t held up their end of the bargain all year.

[jemack]

1 hour ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

Can he make it to the facility without an OWI? 

Sure, Irsay could be his sobriety coach. 😳

[Indyfan4life]

[NewColtsFan]

14 minutes ago, jemack said:

Sure, Irsay could be his sobriety coach. 😳

Really?   

[NewColtsFan]

He just got fired for a DWI.

 

I think this is a non-starter.   

[Smonroe]

Not to defend Gus, but you need decent DBs to play aggressive D.  We have one good CB and he’s in the slot, the others are average at best. Our safety’s are maybe average and the LBs aren’t great in coverage.

 

The lack of an inventive D is as much on Ballard as it is on Gus.  

[richard pallo]

56 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

Not to defend Gus, but you need decent DBs to play aggressive D.  We have one good CB and he’s in the slot, the others are average at best. Our safety’s are maybe average and the LBs aren’t great in coverage.

 

The lack of an inventive D is as much on Ballard as it is on Gus.  

Nothing wrong with putting some perspective on the subject.  I would imagine that they thought Brent’s and Flowers would be the starters.  Both gone.  You do the best you can with the talent you have.  Most of our games are decided by fewer than seven points.  So there’s not much there to be mad about.  They have been improving too so let’s hope they can keep it up.  

[OLD FAN MAN]

2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

We can disagree.  The offense hasn’t held up their end of the bargain all year.

could it be that we dont have the right kind of talent for the gus system?

[Zoltan]

Nope

[OLD FAN MAN]

1 hour ago, Smonroe said:

Not to defend Gus, but you need decent DBs to play aggressive D.  We have one good CB and he’s in the slot, the others are average at best. Our safety’s are maybe average and the LBs aren’t great in coverage.

 

The lack of an inventive D is as much on Ballard as it is on Gus.  

I like jones

[richard pallo]

14 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

could it be that we dont have the right kind of talent for the gus system?

I would tend to doubt that because he’s been here awhile and Ballard should know what’s required.  Having said that Ballard drives me crazy with his propensity to draft players with a history of injuries.  That’s adding extra risk especially for higher draft picks.

[bertjones7]

Jim Leonhard & Robert Saleh would be my 2 ideal targets.

[Smonroe]

46 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Nothing wrong with putting some perspective on the subject.  I would imagine that they thought Brent’s and Flowers would be the starters.  Both gone.  You do the best you can with the talent you have.  Most of our games are decided by fewer than seven points.  So there’s not much there to be mad about.  They have been improving too so let’s hope they can keep it up.  

So that’s the key point - “you do the best you can with the talent you have”.  
 

Is Gus doing the best with that talent?  As you said, they’ve improved but still gave up the most points the Jets scored this year.  They’ve given up career bests to several players.   The run D is still not very good.  
 

Let’s see how they do against what should be the best offense they’ve seen so far.  

[richard pallo]

6 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

So that’s the key point - “you do the best you can with the talent you have”.  
 

Is Gus doing the best with that talent?  As you said, they’ve improved but still gave up the most points the Jets scored this year.  They’ve given up career bests to several players.   The run D is still not very good.  
 

Let’s see how they do against what should be the best offense they’ve seen so far.  

We really don’t know.  There is no way you or I will know if he is doing the best he can with the talent he has.   They see them everyday and see how hard they work and respond to coaching.  They are all talented players just to make it to the league.  How far they go is up to the players, coaches and the talent they have been given.  I would expect the higher talented player to generally outperform the lesser talented player.  That’s how I see it anyway.  

[Hawkeyecolt]

Hard pass on Del Rio.  I always felt good about him being on the Jaguars sideline when the Colts played them back in the day.  I wouldn’t want him on the Colts staff.  He’s a guy who should have peaked at LB coach. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

15 hours ago, jemack said:

The Colts could offer him an Assistant HC position. I wouldn't let him touch the offense. But he's got the experience to help guide SS, if needed.

No

[IndyEV]

No matter who the DC is, we will either never be able to stop the run or will always leave wrs wide open. Been this way since ‘84. After all, there is no D in Inianapolis!

[CoachLite]

On 11/23/2024 at 11:27 AM, Colts1324 said:

Bradley has plenty of head coach experience & most fans don’t like him. I think we need something more innovative. Doesn’t have to be a young coach, but we need someone who is willing to change their philosophy as the game changes (unlike Bradley). 
 

The last few weeks he’s looked better. It will be interesting to see if he stays next year or not. I’d prefer he’s gone 

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different outcome. This is insane!

[Boondoggle]

Gus is a safe, experienced, and mediocre DC who perfectly fits the Colts' aspirations.  So I doubt they move on from him.  My own dislike for him goes way back, so I wouldn't have hired him in the first place, but he does fit the Ballard & ownership model.

 

Jack Del Rio still has a lot to learn.  He would be worse than Gus.

[Lancer1]

On 11/24/2024 at 12:37 AM, Hawkeyecolt said:

Hard pass on Del Rio.  I always felt good about him being on the Jaguars sideline when the Colts played them back in the day.  I wouldn’t want him on the Colts staff.  He’s a guy who should have peaked at LB coach. 

He was good while coaching the Raiders, but they canned him when Jon Gruden came back and we all know how that has worked out for the franchise - since them the team has moved again, they've had 5 different Head Coaches (2 interim) and the franchise has returned to the laughingstock that it was when they were drafting in the top 5 year after year.

[Boondoggle]

Speaking of the Raiders they will almost surely fire Antonio Pierce after the season, if he makes it that far.  I think he's got a lot to him in his future as a DC.  He's a very strong motivator on that side of the ball.  Also since he is failing miserably in his first head coach shot under one of the most poorly run organizations in the league, owners won't try to hire him away for a while.  And if and when they do, that hiring will come with a third round compensation pick.

 

So I'd have my eye on Pierce as a DC option for next season.  Criticism on him, which would be fair, is that he hasn't really served in the DC role.  But given his path from LB Coach to being chosen due to his leadership to be interim head coach, and his performance with the defensive production after he took over, I think he is going to be a DC from this point forward.  And yes there is no telling how he'll do.  My projection, however, is that he will be a very good DC for some team.  I'd rather have him in place than someone that I know is mediocre as hell.  

[jemack]

Well, Eberflus is now available... 🤣

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/23/2024 at 12:17 PM, jemack said:

The Colts could offer him an Assistant HC position. I wouldn't let him touch the offense. But he's got the experience to help guide SS, if needed.

I don't. He's horrible le and past his prime years ago.

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/29/2024 at 3:52 PM, jemack said:

Well, Eberflus is now available... 🤣

I want a D coordinator who will press the receivers and throw some exotic blitzes.  I'm not asking for much.