Playoffs

[MarylandTerrapin]

46 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I still think 9-8 will get us in, Broncos have a tough schedule, we don't. 

Whoever loses the Indy/Den game won't end up getting in.  I'm glad we beat Mia earlier because that helps us in a tiebreaker if they make a late season run with a healthy Tua.

[stitches]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I agree with you mostly but why not both + that would give AR Playoff experience. It would also be nice to watch a Colts in a post season game since we haven't had one in years. 2020 season was our last Playoff game with Rivers.

Because we saw what happened when this coaching staff decided to prioritize "win now" and playoffs. Sure, maybe this time they won't bench AR... but maybe they will make decisions about how to use him and how to call the games not based on what AR needs for his development and not based on what we need to see from him for evaluation purposes, but based on some perceived way they think they will maximize chances to win. Screw that... don't want it. We are not winning it all this year either way... Just... work on AR, let him grow, develop his skills, and evaluate how he's responding and whether he can be the guy for this franchise. And if we get to the playoffs - great. That's an awesome bonus. 

[MarylandTerrapin]

8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

That INT killed us, if I could only pick 1 play to take back out of all the plays and games we have played, it would be that one. I think we win if it is 10-10 at Half.

For a brief moment, I was having a 2008 Houston flashback against when they initially called that fumble recovery a TD.  If the defender wasn't touched and it counted, you know CBS would have shown the Rosencopter play.

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, ADnum1 said:

If chiefs and Chargers have their seed locked up they could rest their starters against the broncos

They play the Chargers in Week 16, so it highly doubtful the Chargers would not play their starters. Things won't be decided by then luckily. KC is dicey because that is the final game = Week 18, but they may be playing for HFA or the #2 seed.

[superrep1967]

12 hours ago, compuls1v3 said:

We are truly a longshot to make it at this point.  If we beat the Lions though, anything is possible!! I don't know how long this has been out, but it's back!! 

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! YOU KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS! WE'RE LUCKY TO WIN A GAME.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, MarylandTerrapin said:

For a brief moment, I was having a 2008 Houston flashback against when they initially called that fumble recovery a TD.  If the defender wasn't touched and it counted, you know CBS would have shown the Rosencopter play.

Me too, I thought of the same thing. Lady luck hasn't been on our side against them lately, unfortunately. Why couldn't the ball come out and Mixon fall out of the way  . Instead he was able to touch Dayo.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! YOU KIDDING ME? PLAYOFFS! WE'RE LUCKY TO WIN A GAME.

[SSColts]

I just hope we can win a game...another game.

[Stephen]

2 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

Dolphins aint beating all of the Packers, Texans and 49ers, there is 1 loss in there and we have the tie breaker over them.

 

So we have to go 5-1 the rest of the way, with that 1 loss likely to the Lions, so based on form, the Broncos game looms largest. However, it is much easier said, hard to do. As we found out in 2021 and 2023, desperate teams in December means more upsets and we could end up 3-3 and no shot at the playoffs.

Here is the thing if we went 5-1we would be 10-7 We would still need the broncos to lose 1 other game.

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Here is the thing if we went 5-1we would be 10-7 We would still need the broncos to lose 1 other game.

The Broncos close with the Colts at the Chargers, at the Bengals and the Chiefs.  I like the chances they lose more than one of those games. 

[chad72]

1 minute ago, Stephen said:

Here is the thing if we went 5-1we would be 10-7  We would still need the broncos to lose 1 other game.

 

Yep, and that should be a game against us, which is what me and @2006Coltsbestever have been saying.

 

@compuls1v3 was saying we were focusing too much on the Broncos. But you are on the same track as we are, IF we lose the Lions game, we have to run the table for the next 5 games. 

 

The 2nd place AFC North and AFC West teams in whichever order (might depend on Ravens-Chargers game on MNF), have a stranglehold on the #5 and #6 seedings as of right now. The #7 is between the Broncos and us primarily, that is how I see it with us already having tie breaker over Dolphins. If we beat the Broncos, that is another tie breaker.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I still think colts will finish with a 9-8 record. Denver will determine if we can get to ten. Pats game will be tricky because Maye is playing well and it’s not easy to play in NE. If they pull a miracle and beat lions they will make the playoffs. Even if they don’t the last five can all be wins to get them to ten.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

37 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

The Broncos close with the Colts at the Chargers, at the Bengals and the Chiefs.  I like the chances they lose more than one of those games. 

They will lose a few more.I don’t like Denver will probably have a two game lead most likely after this weekend but it’s not the end of the world with that Denver schedule. We can’t lose that pats game if we want a chance to have that Denver game mean anything. Also don’t overlook dolphins right now but having the tie breaker will help. The experience for AR to be in playoffs would be huge.

[Stephen]

39 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Yep, and that should be a game against us, which is what me and @2006Coltsbestever have been saying.

 

@compuls1v3 was saying we were focusing too much on the Broncos. But you are on the same track as we are, IF we lose the Lions game, we have to run the table for the next 5 games. 

 

The 2nd place AFC North and AFC West teams in whichever order (might depend on Ravens-Chargers game on MNF), have a stranglehold on the #5 and #6 seedings as of right now. The #7 is between the Broncos and us primarily, that is how I see it with us already having tie breaker over Dolphins. If we beat the Broncos, that is another tie breaker.

 I mean one more game other than the game against us as they only have 5 losses

[richard pallo]

I like the Colts in outdoor games in bad weather as well.  I think our run game with AR gives us an advantage with our OL.  We’ll see if we wind up playing in bad weather.  I like the Colts chances if we do.

[ColtStrong2013]

2 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:

I must say - the playoffs were not even a thought as I basked in the gentle glow after the Jets game.  Was just happy to enjoy the rare occasion of a 4th quarter comeback.

I said coming into this season a huge evaluation would be how AR handles adversity and especially the late game opportunities he gets- (4Q comebacks, 2-4 minute drills, etc). He’s going to have them, how does he handle it? 
 

He handled the benching, the backlash on tapping out, the inaccuracy, etc, all adversities by playing his best game the first opportunity he got to get back out there. And. He now has a 4Q comeback win on his resume. Big step. 

[Smonroe]

3 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

I would like to see if he can trade for bowers we need a pass catching te

 

It would take a first and something else.  Not sure Ballard would ever do that for a TE. 

 

Let me check...

 

 

 

Nope, he said "I like our guys".

 

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, Smonroe said:

 

It would take a first and something else.  Not sure Ballard would ever do that for a TE. 

 

Let me check...

 

 

 

Nope, he said "I like our guys".

 

It was also reported he tried to go up in the draft including visual evidence of him trying to trade with the Giants and rumors were Bowers was who he was trying to go get.

[runthepost]

27 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I like the Colts in outdoor games in bad weather as well.  I think our run game with AR gives us an advantage with our OL.  We’ll see if we wind up playing in bad weather.  I like the Colts chances if we do.

A negative is we can’t stop the run also. Gus might go cover 2 the whole game while the team is getting ran over 

[Smonroe]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

It was also reported he tried to go up in the draft including visual evidence of him trying to trade with the Giants and rumors were Bowers was who he was trying to go get.

 

I have to wonder if Shane would use him if we had him.  Our TE's get the least targets of any team in the league.

 

Is that talent, or because they're needed for blocking?

[OLD FAN MAN]

5 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

I have to wonder if Shane would use him if we had him.  Our TE's get the least targets of any team in the league.

 

Is that talent, or because they're needed for blocking?

good question when targeted they seem to catch the ball

[chad72]

50 minutes ago, Stephen said:

 I mean one more game other than the game against us as they only have 5 losses

 

Yeah, Chargers, Texans, Chiefs, one of them should be able to do the honors for them.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

I like the Colts in outdoor games in bad weather as well.  I think our run game with AR gives us an advantage with our OL.  We’ll see if we wind up playing in bad weather.  I like the Colts chances if we do.

In this note weather could also be a factor in those last five games. 

[ADnum1]

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

It was also reported he tried to go up in the draft including visual evidence of him trying to trade with the Giants and rumors were Bowers was who he was trying to go get.

I mentioned Bowers during draft time and I said he was freak of nature with his size of 6'5 and 245 lbs and 4.4 speed.

 

But he was largely poo-pooed on this board because some felt he was too small to block lol.

 

Look at him now, he's putting up big numbers in LV with Minshew as his QB.

 

I think he would be well worth the trade up from 15 to 13

[throwing BBZ]

5 minutes ago, ADnum1 said:

I mentioned Bowers during draft time and I said he was freak of nature with his size of 6'5 and 245 lbs and 4.4 speed.

 

But he was largely poo-pooed on this board because some felt he was too small to block lol.

 

Look at him now, he's putting up big numbers in LV with Minshew as his QB.

 

I think he would be well worth the trade up from 15 to 13

 

 We don't have Minshew now do we? What's the opposite of Minshew. 

Yip 180 and he's ours.

  What if is about as useless as you get in the NFL considering how many pieces it takes to be a contender.

[ColtStrong2013]

56 minutes ago, ADnum1 said:

I mentioned Bowers during draft time and I said he was freak of nature with his size of 6'5 and 245 lbs and 4.4 speed.

 

But he was largely poo-pooed on this board because some felt he was too small to block lol.

 

Look at him now, he's putting up big numbers in LV with Minshew as his QB.

 

I think he would be well worth the trade up from 15 to 13

I called for Bowers pretty early on here. I thought he looked like the missing piece to Steichen’s offense when comparing our pieces to the Eagles Super Bowl run. I wasn’t sad with getting our pick of the defenders at 15, but it’s easy to wonder what if. There was obviously an attempt to work up in the draft, but I think as it went on, they felt good about sitting put and getting either he or a top defender at 15 without moving. 
 

and you are correct- there was a lot of pooing on Bowers here. 

[Dingus McGirt]

4 hours ago, stitches said:

Because we saw what happened when this coaching staff decided to prioritize "win now" and playoffs. Sure, maybe this time they won't bench AR... but maybe they will make decisions about how to use him and how to call the games not based on what AR needs for his development and not based on what we need to see from him for evaluation purposes, but based on some perceived way they think they will maximize chances to win. Screw that... don't want it. We are not winning it all this year either way... Just... work on AR, let him grow, develop his skills, and evaluate how he's responding and whether he can be the guy for this franchise. And if we get to the playoffs - great. That's an awesome bonus. 

I think, properly conducted, AR growth can lead to a playoff berth—this season.

[colts89]

1 hour ago, ADnum1 said:

I mentioned Bowers during draft time and I said he was freak of nature with his size of 6'5 and 245 lbs and 4.4 speed.

 

But he was largely poo-pooed on this board because some felt he was too small to block lol.

 

Look at him now, he's putting up big numbers in LV with Minshew as his QB.

 

I think he would be well worth the trade up from 15 to 13

I don't think too many people were against getting Bowers. He was a fan favorite at our spot, and I'm pretty sure that he was the target that Ballard was trying to trade down to to get, but nobody would budge.

[NFLfan]

16 hours ago, ADnum1 said:

I mentioned Bowers during draft time and I said he was freak of nature with his size of 6'5 and 245 lbs and 4.4 speed.

 

But he was largely poo-pooed on this board because some felt he was too small to block lol.

 

I don't think that is not true. Most of this forum wanted Bowers to be a Colt.

[NFLfan]

15 hours ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

and you are correct- there was a lot of pooing on Bowers here. 

 

That is not what I remember. It seemed that Bowers was the most popular choice here, IIRC.

 

Next year I will make a poll before the draft asking who the fans want to draft.

[Yoshinator]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

That is not what I remember. It seemed that Bowers was the most popular choice here, IIRC.

 

Next year I will make a poll before the draft asking who the fans want to draft.

Bowers was my top choice, and he was one of only two TEs in the entire draft I wanted besides Tip Reiman (who was billed as an elite blocking TE). I was of the opinion (and still am) that our TEs are terrible and pretty much every SB contending team has an elite TE and that's how you separate from the bad teams and stay competitive with the elite teams. Bowers would have been our guy if we were able to get him and move up with the Jets ahead of the Raiders. 

 

Unfortunately, it didn't happen.

[Stephen]

23 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

Bowers was my top choice, and he was one of only two TEs in the entire draft I wanted besides Tip Reiman (who was billed as an elite blocking TE). I was of the opinion (and still am) that our TEs are terrible and pretty much every SB contending team has an elite TE and that's how you separate from the bad teams and stay competitive with the elite teams. Bowers would have been our guy if we were able to get him and move up with the Jets ahead of the Raiders. 

 

Unfortunately, it didn't happen.

I was surprised  the raiders went te. I expected them to go qb

[Yoshinator]

2 hours ago, Stephen said:

I was surprised  the raiders went te. I expected them to go qb

The top 6 QBs went before the Raiders. I know they wanted either Penix or Nix, but with the Falcons taking Penix at 8, that forced the Broncos to take Nix at 12 and not trade down because the Raiders would have taken him ahead of them. The Raiders were the ultimate losers in this scenario from a QB perspective, so they pivoted to Bowers after that.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

The top 6 QBs went before the Raiders. I know they wanted either Penix or Nix, but with the Falcons taking Penix at 8, that forced the Broncos to take Nix at 12 and not trade down because the Raiders would have taken him ahead of them. The Raiders were the ultimate losers in this scenario from a QB perspective, so they pivoted to Bowers after that.

3 best QB's in this draft coming out were easily Daniels, Nix, and Penix. I never liked Caleb, or McCarthy. Maye looks ok but not sold on him either. I can't wait to see Penix get his chance. He is learning from the Captain and I can see him being like Jordan Love in a couple years.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Bears should have took Daniels 1st, it isn't even hindsight with me, I knew he would be good. Penix would have been my 2nd choice, Nix 3rd choice. 

[Yoshinator]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

3 best QB's in this draft coming out were easily Daniels, Nix, and Penix. I never liked Caleb, or McCarthy. Maye looks ok but not sold on him either. I can't wait to see Penix get his chance. He is learning from the Captain and I can see him being like Jordan Love in a couple years.

I had Williams ahead of Penix, but I didn't like his attitude, and other stuff about him. Daniels was my top QB in the draft, and Nix was my high floor guy in the draft that could hit right away. I wasn't sure after those two, but picked Caleb because I thought the football player would be able to overcome the maturity issues.

 

Maye has looked good so far, and we'll have to wait on McCarthy and Penix. Looks like a good class so far. As a Broncos fan, I'm loving Nix right now.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Yoshinator said:

I had Williams ahead of Penix, but I didn't like his attitude, and other stuff about him. Daniels was my top QB in the draft, and Nix was my high floor guy in the draft that could hit right away. I wasn't sure after those two, but picked Caleb because I thought the football player would be able to overcome the maturity issues.

 

Maye has looked good so far, and we'll have to wait on McCarthy and Penix. Looks like a good class so far. As a Broncos fan, I'm loving Nix right now.

2 of my best friends are Bears fans, they hate Caleb and think he sucks. They both went to the game on Sunday. I did tell them, they need a new coach and a new FG kicker - I rubbed it in again, with our 1 point win over NY + we beat the Bears with AR vs Caleb earlier - they finally answered thier phone after 3 days and they didn't even want to be around me after 2006, Sexy Rexy  . I have known those guys since 1999. They are a riot. I went to the Colts at Bears game in 2004 with them, Edge had like 200 yards and we won like 45-10 .

[2006Coltsbestever]

I still stand by this, Penix should have won Heisman, I thought Daniels may be a better Pro but Penix was putting up huge numbers in a Pro-style offense like Nix was. Washington won more than anyone other than Michigan so that should have been factored in. They beat Oregon/Nix twice even. Pro wise, Daniels is more dual and in today's Pro game that is huge. To me Caleb has a strong arm, but I have my doubts with him because I am not sure he mentally has it, regarding reading defenses and handling pressure well. McCarthy = great college QB like AJ McCarron (who I compare him too) but he won because of Harbaugh, great O.Line, and his run game.

[Rolltide_gocolts]

Don’t be surprised if they flexed the broncos game to late afternoon or Sunday night 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 hour ago, Rolltide_gocolts said:

Don’t be surprised if they flexed the broncos game to late afternoon or Sunday night 

Broncos is already  at 425.