New GM possibilities?

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

His record as a GM is much worse than Ballard's and I want Ballard gone so... 

 

I read somewhere Grigson is a candidate for the Jets job.  How would you feel if they "steal" him from you? 

 

I will pay the Jets to take him. 😂

[Superman]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

I will pay the Jets to take him. 😂

 

Has Grigson been visible or noteworthy in the Vikings operation? 

 

He was a bad GM, and I think he was a jerk of a person, but it seems like the Vikings have a good operation right now. 

[NFLfan]

Just now, Superman said:

For all of Joe Douglas' faults and failures, it's become pretty apparent how greatly he was undermined by ownership with the Jets

 

Yes. I was looking for the right word to describe what Woody Johnson was doing. I wrote that he meddles but "undermines" was a better way to describe it.

[NFLfan]

37 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Has Grigson been visible or noteworthy in the Vikings operation? 

 

He was a bad GM, and I think he was a jerk of a person, but it seems like the Vikings have a good operation right now. 

 

He had poor drafts when he was the Colts GM and our drafts once he joined us have been awful. I believe he has had some influence.

[Superman]

10 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

He had poor drafts when he was the Colts GM and our drafts once he joined us have been awful. I believe he has had some influence.

 

I guess we'll see. I don't know why but I thought he had been there since 2020... 

[ruf]

On 11/20/2024 at 7:37 AM, NFLfan said:

@stitches @Yoshinator @John Hammonds @Solid84 @Superman and anyone else:

 

How would you like it if the Colts added Joe Douglas to the Colts front office?

 

What about a new GM but also a President of football operations that's between owner and gm someone with experience and even retired but would come back in this role my choice would be Charlie casserly if we could get him

[richard pallo]

3 minutes ago, ruf said:

What about a new GM but also a President of football operations that's between owner and gm someone with experience and even retired but would come back in this role my choice would be Charlie casserly if we could get him

Charlie is over 75.  He has better things to do.  

[ruf]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

Charlie is over 75.  He has better things to do.  

Still a great fb mind and super sharp still. Great memory had lunch with him his wife and older brother who is a friend of mine. 1st time I got to meet Charlie and it was fun talking fb with him. He gave me info about the trade with the saints who selected rickie Williams when he was gm of the redskins. They also had Edge James over RW on their draft board

[crazycolt1]

Irsay is not going to fire Ballard. 

End of story. 

[indyagent17]

3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Irsay is not going to fire Ballard. 

End of story. 

If this team falls well below 500 I think it’s a possibility to considering how weak her schedule is after the Lions game. Sure Denver is going to be a challenge. Let’s say they lose four the last games you think it’s really a glowing  recommendation for Ballard.

[crazycolt1]

9 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

If this team falls well below 500 I think it’s a possibility to considering how weak her schedule is after the Lions game. Sure Denver is going to be a challenge. Let’s say they lose four the last games you think it’s really a glowing  recommendation for Ballard.

I have been around Irsay since the beginning.  I'm taking about when he was doing players laundry in Baltimore. 

I kind of know his tendencies and he is not firing Ballard. 

[jimmy g]

13 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I have been around Irsay since the beginning.  I'm taking about when he was doing players laundry in Baltimore. 

I kind of know his tendencies and he is not firing Ballard. 

There is one way Irsay would, and I believe it’s remote. That would be if Irsay turned Football Ops over to a Head of Football Operations and vowed he wouldn’t interfere. if the Head of Ops fired him, it wasn’t Irsay firing him.

 

But I agree with you- Ballard returns next year.

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, jimmy g said:

There is one way Irsay would, and I believe it’s remote. That would be if Irsay turned Football Ops over to a Head of Football Operations and vowed he wouldn’t interfere. if the Head of Ops fired him, it wasn’t Irsay firing him.

 

But I agree with you- Ballard returns next year.

Especially if AR continues to improve. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

I heard Irsay likes this guy

[CoachLite]

On 11/12/2024 at 3:29 PM, GoColts8818 said:

Grigson, Reich, and Shane.  How many times do Eagles hires have to burn the team before they look else where?

Hiring a GM, like filling out a winning football team, is not a plug-and-play endeavor. While that should be obvious by now, apparently it's not.

[NewColtsFan]

On 11/12/2024 at 2:29 PM, GoColts8818 said:

Grigson, Reich, and Shane.  How many times do Eagles hires have to burn the team before they look else where?

Sorry, GC….   I’m just now seeing this post from a few days ago.   Am I to understand that you’re down on Shane?    Already?   

[GoColts8818]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Sorry, GC….   I’m just now seeing this post from a few days ago.   Am I to understand that you’re down on Shane?    Already?   

I’ve been down on Shane most of the season.  His play calling has been a big problem.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

I’ve been down on Shane most of the season.  His play calling has been a big problem.

Down enough to fire him?   

[stitches]

13 hours ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

I heard Irsay likes this guy

One thing we cannot deny about the Colts - we like our guys - the Gm likes the players he's drafted, the owner likes the GM he hired... It's all one big house of love and appreciation...

[GoColts8818]

6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Down enough to fire him?   

That depends on how the season ends.

[crazycolt1]

9 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

I’ve been down on Shane most of the season.  His play calling has been a big problem.

Keep in mind that Shane is only in his 2nd year as a head coach.  He is still in training himself.  Very few 1st time head coaches start out being successful at first. The HOF is full of head coaches who started out with losing records. 

 

 

 

 

[ColtStrong2013]

1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Keep in mind that Shane is only in his 2nd year as a head coach.  He is still in training himself.  Very few 1st time head coaches start out being successful at first. The HOF is full of head coaches who started out with losing records. 

 

 

 

 

 

We've been training first time head coaches since 2012. 

[Hoose]

Don’t think Shane is going anywhere. Ballard? He’s always been tied to AR in my thinking. If the improvement we’re all hoping for actually occurs, Ballard will stick around. If AR collapses, I think he’s gone. 

[crazycolt1]

37 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

We've been training first time head coaches since 2012. 

So what's your point?

[John Waylon]

2 hours ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

We've been training first time head coaches since 2012. 

2009. 

[ColtStrong2013]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

So what's your point?

 

I took your point that very few first time coaches have success to start and said that we've been training first time HC since 2012, which @John Waylon correctly altered to 2009. Perhaps we should change our coaching philosophy.

[AKB]

ive called for ballard to be fired just as much as anyone, but after AR showed promise last week, I don't think its happening, bub. 

[GoColts8818]

10 hours ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

We've been training first time head coaches since 2012. 

2009 if you count the fact Jim Caldwell was a first time NFL coach.  I know he had previously been one in college.

[GoColts8818]

8 hours ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

I took your point that very few first time coaches have success to start and said that we've been training first time HC since 2012, which @John Waylon correctly altered to 2009. Perhaps we should change our coaching philosophy.

Missed this before I responded.

10 hours ago, Hoose said:

Don’t think Shane is going anywhere. Ballard? He’s always been tied to AR in my thinking. If the improvement we’re all hoping for actually occurs, Ballard will stick around. If AR collapses, I think he’s gone. 

If you fire the GM the head coach is gone or on an extremely short leash like Pagano was when Ballard came in.  GM’s want their own guys.

[crazycolt1]

On 11/23/2024 at 1:33 PM, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

I took your point that very few first time coaches have success to start and said that we've been training first time HC since 2012, which @John Waylon correctly altered to 2009. Perhaps we should change our coaching philosophy.

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to change head coaches in the middle of ARs development.  Shane was hired because of his offensive philosophy. Let it play out. 

[ColtStrong2013]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to change head coaches in the middle of ARs development.  Shane was hired because of his offensive philosophy. Let it play out. 

I don’t either- I would let a lot of things play out too. My point was more on if it doesn’t work out with Steichen, not continuing the trend of hiring coordinators that have never been head coaches. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

On 11/23/2024 at 10:42 AM, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

We've been training first time head coaches since 2012. 

None of them were 30+ years old.

[ColtStrong2013]

26 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

None of them were 30+ years old.

none of them had head coaching experience and that inexperience reared its head numerous times. 
 

Even in Caldwell’s final year, he made a crucial time management mistake that allowed the Jets to significantly increase their odds of kicking the fieldgoal to knock Peyton Manning out of what would be his final playoff and game here. 

[crazycolt1]

4 hours ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

none of them had head coaching experience and that inexperience reared its head numerous times. 
 

Even in Caldwell’s final year, he made a crucial time management mistake that allowed the Jets to significantly increase their odds of kicking the fieldgoal to knock Peyton Manning out of what would be his final playoff and game here. 

Every head coach in history has made a mistake.  Caldwell was unjustly fired after having a winning record.  That was a mistake on Irsay part. 

[Moosejawcolt]

On 11/20/2024 at 11:07 AM, Superman said:

 

Has Grigson been visible or noteworthy in the Vikings operation? 

 

He was a bad GM, and I think he was a jerk of a person, but it seems like the Vikings have a good operation right now. 

Well married to the same person he met in university and they have six kids. Maybe not as bad as he has been projected by the media, lol. 

[Thunderbolt]

Here's a couple of names:  Belicheck-Gm

                                            or

                                           Nick Saban-Coach or Gm

[GoColts8818]

6 minutes ago, Thunderbolt said:

Here's a couple of names:  Belicheck-Gm

                                            or

                                           Nick Saban-Coach or Gm

Yeah because Nick Saban the NFL coach worked so well the first time it lasted two years.  Also Belicheck the GM is a large part of the reason he’s no longer in New England.  

[NewColtsFan]

30 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Well married to the same person he met in university and they have six kids. Maybe not as bad as he has been projected by the media, lol. 

It sure reads as if you have not followed the Ryan Grigson stories while he was a Colt.   If you had, you wouldn’t be writing “not as bad as the media portrayed, lol.”   
 

Odds are, the stories you don’t know are much worse than you can even imagine.   

[crazycolt1]

49 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Well married to the same person he met in university and they have six kids. Maybe not as bad as he has been projected by the media, lol. 

Probably correct.  The media or a few fed up Colts forum members.  🤓

[RollerColt]

59 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Well married to the same person he met in university and they have six kids. Maybe not as bad as he has been projected by the media, lol. 

You can be an excellent spouse and parent but still be bad at your job.