Time of Possession

Smonroe · October 27

We’re supposed to be a running team, and run teams usually own the clock. This is due to play calling, as well as poor QB play.

But I do realize that this season is about finding out if AR is our QB, more than about winning.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

csmopar · October 27

1 minute ago, Smonroe said:

We’re supposed to be a running team, and run teams usually own the clock. This is due to play calling, as well as poor QB play.

But I do realize that this season is about finding out if AR is our QB, more than about winning.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

Yeah and what’s even more interesting is we lead the league in 4th quarter points. How?!

Smonroe · October 27

4 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Yeah and what’s even more interesting is we lead the league in 4th quarter points. How?!

Because we’re almost always behind in the 4th in every game. Instead of running to wear the other team down and use clock, we’re usually playing catchup and need scores.

Smonroe · November 5

Keeping it current.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

9. 23:06 (L)

If this continues, how can Irsay justify bringing Ballard or any of the coaches back?

jemack · November 5

Opponents extend drives better than us.

Offense can't stay on the field, Defense can't get off.

This is a scheme issue on critical downs.

I'm sick of screens on 2nd and 7, for a 3 yrds. Loss.

And I'm sick of receivers constantly finding an open acre in our secondary.

tfunky14 · November 5

It's not playing calling, this excuse is getting old.

It's executing the play, get better at doing your job.

Did anyone watch the KC game last night? Hunt ran the ball very well as because the offensive line blocked.

krunk · November 5

We've upgraded the WR position and Taylor has been productive for the most part but yet we still can't get anything done on O. It's so puzzling to me but yes I would have to pick execution as one of the biggest problems if I had to pick. It's definitely not a talent issue. It hasn't even been an OL problem either. Id say the problem has been execution between the QB and WR plus play calling and game plans.

lollygagger8 · November 5

How come when Offense plays decent, the Defense sucks

and when the Defense plays decent, the Offense sucks?

It would be great if they could get on the same page in the same game for once.

Smonroe · November 5

13 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

How come when Offense plays decent, the Defense sucks

and when the Defense plays decent, the Offense sucks?

It would be great if they could get on the same page in the same game for once.

No offense, but I think “decent” may be an exaggeration, lol!

The pundits say this is a talented team, maybe not a lot of superstars but a lot of very good players. If that’s true, it must be coaching, right? On Defense, no doubt. Now it looks like the Offense is following suit.

NorthernColt · November 5

This goes back to last year as well. Seems to be a Steichen trend now.

Ironically enough too, makes Bradleys defense look better, when we have the worst time of possession in the entire league.

Even if we had a top 15 time of possession, our defense would look even better as they're not on the field nearly as much.

Superman · November 5

11 minutes ago, NorthernColt said:

This goes back to last year as well. Seems to be a Steichen trend now.

Ironically enough too, makes Bradleys defense look better, when we have the worst time of possession in the entire league.

Even if we had a top 15 time of possession, our defense would look even better as they're not on the field nearly as much.

The defense is 24th on third down, allowing a conversion rate of 43.7%. I could go on... The point is that it's not just the offense contributing to the low TOP.

NorthernColt · November 5

1 minute ago, Superman said:

The defense is 24th on third down, allowing a conversion rate of 43.7%. I could go on... The point is that it's not just the offense contributing to the low TOP.

Of course. Never said we were the legion of boom over here. Just saying a good offense makes a defense look alot better just by simply not being on the field as much.

DougDew · November 5

Short passes that are complete act like a running play too. FDs and keeps the clock running.

Shane has had bad QBing in his NFL HC career thus far.

el duderino · November 5

its pretty simple if you break it down: we just fkn suck

SSColts · November 5

Defense can't get off the field on 3rd down and the offense can't stay on the field for longer than 3 plays. Sunday night was a classic example of that. Yes, the defense created some turnovers (and points) but Sam Darnold had a career high completion percentage. Rarely do teams win the turnover battle and lose the game. We break all the molds.

CoachLite · November 5

20 hours ago, Smonroe said:

Keeping it current.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

9. 23:06 (L)

If this continues, how can Irsay justify bringing Ballard or any of the coaches back?

Because they are such nice guys and they need the money.

Pelt · November 5

5 hours ago, Superman said:

The defense is 24th on third down, allowing a conversion rate of 43.7%. I could go on... The point is that it's not just the offense contributing to the low TOP.

I'm actually quite surprised we're ranked as high as 24th

smittywerb · November 5

9 hours ago, tfunky14 said:

Did anyone watch the KC game last night? Hunt ran the ball very well as because the offensive line blocked.

Hunt also had 27 carries and averaged 3.9yds. Meanwhile, our own JT could be averaging 5yds and he’ll only get the ball 16 times.

Superman · November 5

1 hour ago, smittywerb said:

Hunt also had 27 carries and averaged 3.9yds. Meanwhile, our own JT could be averaging 5yds and he’ll only get the ball 16 times.

And none in the 4th quarter...

Superman · November 6

2 hours ago, Pelt said:

I'm actually quite surprised we're ranked as high as 24th

Don't worry, we're closer to the bottom in a lot of other important defensive stats. Completion percentage, rushing yards, passing yards, total yards, net yards/attempt, total first downs, etc.

Solid84 · November 6

18 hours ago, Superman said:

And none in the 4th quarter...

Does it seem like they kinda have JT on a pitch count? It's not the first time we've seen the Colts sub in other RBs and leave out JT in the 4th despite him having had a productive game.

Superman · November 6

1 hour ago, Solid84 said:

Does it seem like they kinda have JT on a pitch count? It's not the first time we've seen the Colts sub in other RBs and leave out JT in the 4th despite him having had a productive game.

I don't know what it is. They're keeping his usage down for sure, mostly by putting him on ice in the 4th quarter. I don't get it, and Steichen won't talk about it.

John Waylon · November 6

On 11/5/2024 at 8:04 AM, tfunky14 said:

It's not playing calling, this excuse is getting old.

It's executing the play, get better at doing your job.

Did anyone watch the KC game last night? Hunt ran the ball very well as because the offensive line blocked.

It’s absolutely playcalling. When we run the ball it’s unoriginal and bland. It’s predictable and the personnel decisions are confusing to say the absolute very least, especially late in games. The only wrinkle they throw in the run game is the random end around to Dulin every now and then. And since we can sit here and identify that particularly as a wrinkle, that means it’s not really a wrinkle because defenses should be looking for keys to stop it when Dulin is on the field.

They couldn’t even figure out how to use Richard’s legs to any advantage through RPO opportunities. The vast majority of his runs were on passing plays where he pulled it down and took off with it instead, not an actually designed run play.

Smonroe · November 6

25 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

It’s absolutely playcalling. When we run the ball it’s unoriginal and bland. It’s predictable and the personnel decisions are confusing to say the absolute very least, especially late in games. The only wrinkle they throw in the run game is the random end around to Dulin every now and then. And since we can sit here and identify that particularly as a wrinkle, that means it’s not really a wrinkle because defenses should be looking for keys to stop it when Dulin is on the field.

They couldn’t even figure out how to use Richard’s legs to any advantage through RPO opportunities. The vast majority of his runs were on passing plays where he pulled it down and took off with it instead, not an actually designed run play.

It's very disheartening. When AR isn't in the game, JT is less effective. In Sunday's game the Vikings got something like 140 yards on the ground. No one is going to say Darnold is a threat with his legs. Their O line is (supposedly) not as good as ours. So it comes down to the play call.

When will they realize that every D in the league knows that they're going to run behind Nelson and they just pinch the gap.

I have to admit, I'm starting to get depressed over the management of this team, from the GM to the HC, to the coordinators. They can't pin this all on AR.

tfunky14 · November 7

14 hours ago, Smonroe said:

It's very disheartening. When AR isn't in the game, JT is less effective. In Sunday's game the Vikings got something like 140 yards on the ground. No one is going to say Darnold is a threat with his legs. Their O line is (supposedly) not as good as ours. So it comes down to the play call.

When will they realize that every D in the league knows that they're going to run behind Nelson and they just pinch the gap.

I have to admit, I'm starting to get depressed over the management of this team, from the GM to the HC, to the coordinators. They can't pin this all on AR.

Oh Geez, play calling excuse again.

The Colts knew the Vikings were going to run the ball too. Darnold turns around and hands the ball off, pretty simple. They just did a better job at it.

Not hard to figure out. Everybody thinks the game is difficult, it's not. man up.

2006Coltsbestever · November 7

I try to watch most games and follow as many teams as possible. I have to say, we are a team that gives up more 3rd and 7's or more than any team in the league that I have seen. That might not be right but if it isn't it has to be close. Anytime you get a team 3rd and 7 or more, you should rarely give up a 1st down. We do it a lot.

Smonroe · November 7

4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I try to watch most games and follow as many teams as possible. I have to say, we are a team that gives up more 3rd and 7's or more than any team in the league that I have seen. That might not be right but if it isn't it has to be close. Anytime you get a team 3rd and 7 or more, you should rarely give up a 1st down. We do it a lot.

Gus's defense is predicated on "Let's hope the other team screws up". He will always let teams march down the field until the field gets shorter and the defense can tighten up a little since there's less area to cover.

That's why just about every QB we face has their best day, and their completion percentages are way over their average.

The Vikings had 10 drives. Nine of them got at least one first down. Time of possession wears down the defense and by the fourth quarter, they're gassed.

You only run that kind of defense when you have very little faith in the DBs, and you hope your D line can pressure the QB enough to not let their QB have time to find the open receiver. Because there always will be one.

It's the most frustrating defense to watch, and it seems like just about every Colts DC since...forever?...has been running a version of it. Just one time before I pass on, I'd love to see the Colts have an attacking defense.

Lifetime Colt · November 8

Yes it seems that way, but compared to the TE group, his pitch count seems excessive. Someone mentioned KC's Hunt success, they USE 3 tight ends, LB's are stressed on what/who to cover, when the RB gets past the first level the yards are there for moving the chains. The Colts need to use all their tools, not just the shiny ones everyone knows to cover.

37 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

~~Yep we might be better off with him. Pierce is clearly a one trick pony. AD should be able to fill in nicely for Pittman~~

On 11/6/2024 at 1:31 PM, Solid84 said:

Does it seem like they kinda have JT on a pitch count? It's not the first time we've seen the Colts sub in other RBs and leave out JT in the 4th despite him having had a productive game.

Smonroe · November 18

Keeping it current.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

9. 23:06 (L)

10. 27:52 (L)

11. 34:17 (W)

This is how you win with a mediocre defense. The D still isn’t good, but it can be good enough if you can limit the time they’re on the field.

Doing this well on O with how poor the Oline played (with three rookies, we shouldn’t expect a lot) this almost reminded me of the early Luck years.

GoColts8818 · November 19

11 hours ago, Smonroe said:

Keeping it current.

1. 20:00 (L)

2. 19:49 (L)

3. 24:59 (W)

4. 28:53 (W)

5. 31:32 (L)

6. 29:28 (W)

7. 28:49 (W)

8. 24:40 (L)

9. 23:06 (L)

10. 27:52 (L)

11. 34:17 (W)

This is how you win with a mediocre defense. The D still isn’t good, but it can be good enough if you can limit the time they’re on the field.

Doing this well on O with how poor the Oline played (with three rookies, we shouldn’t expect a lot) this almost reminded me of the early Luck years.

To Superman’s point earlier in the thread the defense has to do their part too and get off the field on third down, something they have been awful at this season. The reason the Colts won TOP Sunday wasn’t just that offense had some long drives it was that the defense started the game with four straight three and outs.

Smonroe · November 19

10 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

To Superman’s point earlier in the thread the defense has to do their part too and get off the field on third down, something they have been awful at this season. The reason the Colts won TOP Sunday wasn’t just that offense had some long drives it was that the defense started the game with four straight three and outs.

I agree. They were fresh at the start of the game. But they’re not a good D, and it shows the longer they’re out there. How many games have they given up a long run or TD pass when they’re in the red zone. It’s either a missed assignment or they forgot how to tackle.

They still gave the Jets their season high points. And I don’t know how many personal bests other players have had this season.

But, as I said, they don’t have to be good, just good enough. As long as the offense can’t sustain win the ToP.

(my last rant is that if everyone can see this, why wasn’t Ballard willing to improve it? We can all blame Gus, and I’m not defending him, but look what he has to work with)

indyagent17 · November 19

On 10/27/2024 at 7:15 PM, csmopar said:

Yeah and what’s even more interesting is we lead the league in 4th quarter points. How?!

We are also in the top five in giving up points in the 4th quarter

csmopar · November 19

17 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

We are also in the top five in giving up points in the 4th quarter

Yeah but we weren’t when I made that comment 4 weeks ago

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