Eagles What Will Be Next For That Franchise?

[King Colt]

No one seems to be able to explain the Eagles crash this year scoring 9 points in a playoff game while giving up 32 to TB. One of football's best mysteries. Sad for Kelce, I believe it was said he agreed to play one more year hoping to get to the SB. 

[AwesomeAustin]

Nothing elaborate but my nephew is a huge Eagles fan and a numbers guy. He is saying the defense regressed. They did have a coordinator change mid season and Matt Patricia took over with terrible results. The DL didn’t get pressure like last year and they gave up a lot of big plays on D while the offense sputtered a bit bc of injuries. 

[lollygagger8]

Steichen coming here was a huge blow to the Eagles 

 

Sorryiani isn't the same w/o him 

[krunk]

I had said I wonder what they look like without Steichen bc they struggled offensively with Sirriani before Steichen

[NewColtsFan]

No one seems able to explain?!?

 

They lost both their top coordinators.  Steichen to the Colts, Gannon to the Cardinals.   Thats what people are talking about. 

[DougDew]

Hurts was not as accurate and did not run as well during the second half of the season...just my eye test.  AJ Brown seemed to have critical drops and more easily tackled than before.  The old players on defense finally started to look old.  Beyond coaching and coordination, older player should know how to tackle...and could probably teach the new coordinator how to tackle rather than visa versa.

 

Some are talking like firing the HC.  I think the Philly water is finding its level after a season and a half of defying it.

[#12.]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a team fall this fast.  They were 10-1, and in the previous 5 weeks had beaten the Chiefs, Bills, Cowboys and Dolphins(when they were healthy and hot).

 

In the final 7 weeks, they looked like the worst team in the league.

[chad72]

11 minutes ago, #12. said:

I'm not sure I've ever seen a team fall this fast.  They were 10-1, and in the previous 5 weeks had beaten the Chiefs, Bills, Cowboys and Dolphins(when they were healthy and hot).

 

In the final 7 weeks, they looked like the worst team in the league.

 

This article captures it all:

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/1/16/24040139/eagles-sean-desai-matt-patricia-nick-sirianni-nfl-playoffs-buccaneers?_gl=1*1ke6382*

 

This is why most head coaches wait it out till the end of the season to replace an OC or DC unless your bleeding is of epic proportions. Remember when Mike McCarthy took over and brought over his Packers DC in 2020, Mike Nolan. They were giving up points left and right. Even then, Mike Nolan was not fired mid season. 

 

You gave up points in 2 consecutive games to some elite offenses in the league, did Steichen fire Gus Bradley after that 3 game stretch vs Jags, Browns and Saints? Gus Bradley did some good things later but still, whether we like Gus or not, the off season is the best time to institute real changes at DC and OC.

 

I do think it is easier to change OC (if it is a vet QB in the same system, not if it is a rookie in the middle of a season, IMO), than DC because defense is reactive while offense is pro-active. But I am still a proponent of waiting out till the season is over to institute changes. With Steichen's loss, their offense took a step backwards and the defense of the Eagles, it wasn't nearly as bad and incohesive till Patricia showed up.

[#12.]

Sounds like Leonard might retire.  Not sure if he was active last night.  

[King Colt]

3 hours ago, #12. said:

I'm not sure I've ever seen a team fall this fast.  They were 10-1, and in the previous 5 weeks had beaten the Chiefs, Bills, Cowboys and Dolphins(when they were healthy and hot).

 

In the final 7 weeks, they looked like the worst team in the league.

That's the head scratcher everyone is talking about today. You would think they would have given their all in the playoffs, but they looked lifeless and anxious to go home yesterday. How does an entire team just deflate??

[NewColtsFan]

On 1/16/2024 at 5:57 AM, krunk said:

I had said I wonder what they look like without Steichen bc they struggled offensively with Sirriani before Steichen

Huh? 
 

Sirrianni has been there three years.  Steichen was his OC the first two years.  This year was the first year that Sirianni has not been with Steichen.  

[VikingsFanInChennai]

On 1/16/2024 at 9:50 AM, King Colt said:

No one seems to be able to explain the Eagles crash this year scoring 9 points in a playoff game while giving up 32 to TB. One of football's best mysteries. Sad for Kelce, I believe it was said he agreed to play one more year hoping to get to the SB. 

While it was surprising, it wasn't hard to see. It happens with teams that went to SB the year prior, and at 10-1 they had been winning all the time for 2 years, but when something goes wrong and the coaches aren't right persons to fix (due to the exodus of both coordinators), team starts to doubt themselves and the flaws begin to show up. When the players and coaches can't fix right away, the team morale drops low enough to cause falling flat, especially after the players have given their all the previous season only to end up losing in SB. That disappointment cannot be stated enough, team and even great players need an off-season to pick themselves up (as in the emotions shown by Kelce after the loss).

 

Apart from that and losing Steichen, the offense had been mainly scoring a lot this year on the back of Hurts' rushing scores and their elite receivers. Whenever Eagles went to opponent's 1-yard line, they hush-pushed Hurts to a score easily but when the opponents stopped them little ahead, and challenged them to score, Eagles routinely struggled, probably because of losing Steichen and not having good enough play design or calls to make it work. It had been the pattern all year long.

 

Their defense took even worse beat down, as their pass coverage struggled to stop most of the passing attacks all year. Young players in defense haven't stepped up to give the veterans some time to breathe, and the overall efficiency of their once ferocious DL has been low, though they were good in run defense. Once they had to stop the opponents beyond the defensive line though, the players struggled to wrap up. Letting go good young player like Marcus Epps also hurt in the tackling department.

 

Injuries to Goedert in the middle of the season took the steam out of the speed of offense, and more injuries to Brown and few young players on defense towards the end of the season just made both units average, and their opponents saw their effort weaken, and took full advantage. Still, credit has to be given to the opponents to not let Eagles get up to their usual form. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Just my opinion, but i think what went wrong for the eagles was something internal. I don't know what but I don't think it was losing their coordinators(they started 10-1) or personnel or X's & O's. I think there was problems inside and the team lost their will to play and maybe even coach like before. 

The team seemed just going through the motions. Just me guessing lol. 

Management needs to correctly evaluate what the problem was(if they haven't already) before they can fix it. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Maybe Hurts got along with Shane better than he does Sirianni. Losing Shane was bad for them, even when they were 10-1, their offense sputtered at times. Sometimes losing a coach, even if not a head coach can affect a QB emotionally. I remember when Dallas lost Norv Turner (OC), it crushed Troy Aikman. 

[DougDew]

Philly did not seem to have the offense needed to compete in a shoot out, IOW, when a team's defense is struggling.  That's usually because the QB is simply a game-manager type and not really a franchise type.  But a popular take by the pundits might be be to deflect to the change in coordinators or blame the same HC that's been there for three years to avoid acknowledging the truth.

[krunk]

On 1/18/2024 at 1:32 AM, NewColtsFan said:

Huh? 
 

Sirrianni has been there three years.  Steichen was his OC the first two years.  This year was the first year that Sirianni has not been with Steichen.  

Sirriani was calling the plays and then later conceded to Steichen.  That's when the offense improved

[sb41champs]

Nick Sirianni is staying as the Head Coach of the Philadelphia Eagles!!

 

However - BOTH - of his coordinators have been fired.

 

That means that Jalen Hurts will now have THREE DIFFERENT COORDINATORS in three seasons.

 

With the coaching carousel spinning like crazy this off-season - the Eagles should be jumping in to the "deep end" of the OC & DC pool - before they all get snapped up.