2023 Week 17 All Around the NFL Game Thread

[NFLfan]

It is the next to last week of the 2023 regular season in the NFL. It starts tonight with the Jets at the Browns and ends on Sunday night with the Vikings hosting the Packers, each vying to keep their slim playoffs hopes alive.

 

Note: There is no Monday Night Football game this week.

 

Tonight: 

New York Jets @ Cleveland Browns

 

Saturday, Dec 30th

8:15 pm Detroit Lions @ Dallas Cowboys

 

Sunday Dec 31st, New Year's Eve

1:00 pm Arizona Cardinals @  Philadelphia Eagles

1:00 pm Atlanta Falcons @ Chicago Bears

1:00 pm Carolina Panthers @ Jacksonville Jaguars

1:00 pm Las Vegas Raiders @ Indianapolis Colts

1:00 pm Los Angeles Rams @ New York Giants

1:00 pm Miami Dolphins @ Baltimore Ravens

1:00 pm New England Patriots @ Buffalo Bills

1:00 pm New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1:00 pm San Francisco 49ers @ Washington Commanders

1:00 pm Tennessee Titans @ Houston Texans

4:05 pm Pittsburgh Steelers @ Seattle Seahawks

4:25 pm Cincinnati Bengals Kansas City Chiefs

4:25 pm Los Angeles Chargers @ Denver Broncos

8:20 pm Green Bay Packers @ Minnesota Vikings

 

Enjoy the games!

[w87r]

Big AFC Week 17 Games:

#2 Dolphins @ #1 Ravens

#10 Bengals @ #3 Chiefs

Panthers @ #4 Jaguars

#13 Jets @ @5 Browns 

#16 Patriots @ #6 Bills

#11 Raiders @ #7 Colts

#14 Titans @ #8 Texans

#9 Steelers @ #7(NFC) Seahawks

#15 Chargers @ #12 Broncos 

[MB-ColtsFan]

Wow.  Nice stop by Gang Green after the turnover.  They're still in it.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

TD on turnover lol

[MB-ColtsFan]

Another turnover, no less.

[NFLfan]

Just now, MB-ColtsFan said:

Another turnover, no less.

 

What a high scoring first quarter! I can't believe Trevor Siemian is still a QB in the NFL.

[RollerColt]

I didn’t realize Wilson wasn’t playing for the Jets tonight. I would’ve picked the Browns in the Pick ‘Em. And sat the Jets defense for my fantasy championship…
 

Siemian sucks. Why are they even playing him? 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

What a high scoring first quarter! I can't believe Trevor Siemian is still a QB in the NFL.

Jets might  of been better off starting him then Wilson. At least their offense looks competent.

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

What a high scoring first quarter! I can't believe Trevor Siemian is still a QB in the NFL.

Well, he's only the 7th string QB, but yeah...  ha.

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Jets might  of been better off starting him then Wilson. At least their offense looks competent.

It did the 1st series, but not so much afterwards.  Maybe he'll settle down.

[NFLfan]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Jets might  of been better off starting him then Wilson. At least their offense looks competent.

 

I think Wilson is out for the rest of the year.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

I think Wilson is out for the rest of the year.

I meant when Rodger’s went down.

[MB-ColtsFan]

Mosley finally making a play.  He's been trash tonight.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

It did the 1st series, but not so much afterwards.  Maybe he'll settle down.

They scored 30 last week. With Wilson they didn’t even look like a nfl offense.

[NFLfan]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I meant when Rodger’s went down.

 

Gosh no. Siemian is one of the worst QBs I have seen play in the NFL. He played for the Vikings in a backup role. He is worse than Christian Ponder.

 

Curtis Painter may have been better than Siemian.

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

Gosh no. Siemian is one of the worst QBs I have seen play in the NFL. He played for the Vikings in a backup role. He is worse than Christian Ponder.

 

Curtis Painter may have been better than Siemian.

Wow.  That's saying a lot.

[RollerColt]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Gosh no. Siemian is one of the worst QBs I have seen play in the NFL. He played for the Vikings in a backup role. He is worse than Christian Ponder.

 

Curtis Painter may have been better than Siemian.

I agree. I’ve seen him play in person as well as for multiple teams. He’s not even a serviceable backup in my opinion. If his number is called to be starting, something has truly gone wrong for that teams season, which I mean yeah it’s the Jets… 

 

But seriously though, he’s one of the worst QBs I’ve seen play. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Gosh no. Siemian is one of the worst QBs I have seen play in the NFL. He played for the Vikings in a backup role. He is worse than Christian Ponder.

 

Curtis Painter may have been better than Siemian.

Painter is the King of stink 

[MB-ColtsFan]

Well, this game is over.  No way they come back from this.

Flacco is looking awfully good against a pretty good defense.  He's legit back.

[NFLfan]

Just now, MB-ColtsFan said:

Well, this game is over.  No way they come back from this.

Flacco is looking awfully good against a pretty good defense.  He's legit back.

 

Flacco is playing surprisingly well. This game will be a blowout.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Joe Flacco has been so underrated his whole career. Not a great QB but good, a lot better than Trent Dilfer was.

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Joe Flacco has been so underrated his whole career. Not a great QB but good, a lot better than Trent Dilfer was.

I think he’s being overrated a bit this season because of how bad the QB play has generally been with so many inexperienced and low caliber backups… but yeah he’s definitely better than Trent ever was. 
 

But put the Browns in a cage match against the Bills and I’m taking the Bills with Josh Allen. 

[NFLfan]

What are your thoughts on the other games?

 

Did anyone see the story about the Packers suspending Jaire Alexander for the next game for conduct detrimental to the team?  What did he do wrong? He failed to say that the Packers, who won the coin toss to start the game, would be deferring to the second half.  He told the ref that the Packers would start the game on defense. I believe that because he did not say "defer", the Packers did not get the ball to start either half of the game last week.

 

It seems harsh to suspend him for that for an important upcoming game.

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

I think he’s being overrated a bit this season because of how bad the QB play has generally been with so many inexperienced and low caliber backups… but yeah he’s definitely better than Trent ever was. 
 

But put the Browns in a cage match against the Bills and I’m taking the Bills with Josh Allen. 

Bills are off their game.  It's a toss up to me.  Home field determines the winner.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, RollerColt said:

I think he’s being overrated a bit this season because of how bad the QB play has generally been with so many inexperienced and low caliber backups… but yeah he’s definitely better than Trent ever was. 
 

But put the Browns in a cage match against the Bills and I’m taking the Bills with Josh Allen. 

I think that game would be 50/50. Flacco is a winner. I think Allen is a better QB but he has his moments where he has some bad turnovers in the playoffs.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

What are your thoughts on the other games?

 

Did anyone see the story about the Packers suspending Jaire Alexander for the next game for conduct detrimental to the team. What did he do wrong? He failed to say that the Packers, who won the coin toss to start the game, would be deferring to the second half He told the ref that the Packers would start the game on defense. Because he did not say "defer", I believe the Packers did not get the ball to start either half of the game last week.

 

It seems harsh to suspend him for an important upcoming game.

Colts and Vikings both will win for starters, let me pause for station identification and let me think about my other locks. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

What are your thoughts on the other games?

 

Did anyone see the story about the Packers suspending Jaire Alexander for the next game for conduct detrimental to the team?  What did he do wrong? He failed to say that the Packers, who won the coin toss to start the game, would be deferring to the second half.  He told the ref that the Packers would start the game on defense. I believe that because he did not say "defer", the Packers did not get the ball to start either half of the game last week.

 

It seems harsh to suspend him for that for an important upcoming game.

He was not a captain and wasn’t supposed to be out there.

[MB-ColtsFan]

There's Gang Green.  D will have to win this.

[NFLfan]

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-suspend-jaire-alexander-after-he-nearly-mixed-up-coin-toss-182028007.html

Alexander will miss Sunday's game against the Vikings.

 

Quote

The Green Bay Packers have placed cornerback Jaire Alexander on the reserve/suspended list for "conduct detrimental to the team" regarding his participation in Sunday's pregame coin toss before their 33-30 win over the Carolina Panthers.

 

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He was not a captain and wasn’t supposed to be out there.

Well some coach should also answer to that.  How does that even happen??

[NFLfan]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He was not a captain and wasn’t supposed to be out there.

 

Oh. I had not understood that. I guess he wanted to be out there because he is from North Carolina.

[MB-ColtsFan]

Uh oh.  That looks really bad.

[RollerColt]

Just now, MB-ColtsFan said:

Uh oh.  That looks really bad.

What happened? My kids begged to turn on the new Chicken Run sequel and well… it seems like a better choice than this game.

[holeymoley99]

25 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Gosh no. Siemian is one of the worst QBs I have seen play in the NFL. He played for the Vikings in a backup role. He is worse than Christian Ponder.

 

Curtis Painter may have been better than Siemian.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PainCu00.htm

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SiemTr00.htm

 

In what world is Painter even close to Trevor ? Certainly not this version of Earth maybe an alternate reality...lol...

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

What happened? My kids begged to turn on the new Chicken Run sequel and well… it seems like a better choice than this game.

Moore went down and started spasming with his arms.  He was definitely out.

[NFLfan]

Just now, holeymoley99 said:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PainCu00.htm

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SiemTr00.htm

 

In what world is Painter even close to Trevor ? Certainly not this version of Erath maybe an alternate reality...lol...

 

Lol. Maybe I exaggerated (about his being worse than Painter), but I stand by my comment that Siemian is one of the worst I have seen play in the NFL.

[MB-ColtsFan]

Just now, MB-ColtsFan said:

Moore went down and started spasming with his arms.  He was definitely out.

He's up an waling off the field.  Whew...scary.

[NFLfan]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Moore went down and started spasming with his arms.  He was definitely out.

 

I missed that too. He had a seizure??

[holeymoley99]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

 

Lol. Maybe I exaggerated (about his being worse than Painter), but I stand by my comment that Siemian is one of the worst I have seen play in the NFL.

Now if you said Nathan Peterman was worse then Painter I have your back...lol

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PeteNa00.htm

 

 

[MB-ColtsFan]

Jets tackling like the Colts, lol.