AFC South and AFC Playoff picture/ Remaining Schedules (MERGE) Updated OP + on page 61 - post week 17. AFC Clinching Scenarios page 61

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 hours ago, jskinnz said:

Don’t forget the egregious non-PI call on EJ Speed that would have set the Ravens up to win in regulation. 
 

Yep. The Ravens would have had 1st and 10 at the Colts 45. In which doesn't guarantee they score. Tucker had just missed from 60 yards. However, when we played the Browns, we had the game winning stop and got called for a bogus PI with 30 seconds left. Then again got called for another at the goal line giving the Browns the game. So bringing up a non-call that we got to help us is pretty rich. Most Colts fans don't want to hear that after the REFS gave the game to the Browns.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, Solid84 said:

Refs mistakes are only valid excuses when it’s the Colts losing out. 

Who has ever said that? We got a call that helped us. Usually we get the short end of the stick, the Browns game was a clown show.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Kevin Bowen mentioned how that game yesterday by raiders was the raiders superbowl.  Apparently even pierce post game was really emotional. He says they should be emotionally drained after that.

[w87r]

So this is what I've boiled it down to this week.

 

Clinching scenarios 

 

If we beat the Raiders:(week 17)

Texans lose to Titans

Bengals lose to Chiefs

Steelers lose to Seahawks

 

 

We could lose in week 18 and if Steelers beat the Ravens(might not be playing for anything)we would still clinch.

 

If Ravens win we would need the following to happen.(again if we lose to Texans)

 

Bengals to lose to Browns

 

Or

 

Week 18:

Browns lose to Bengals

Raiders lose to Broncos 

+

Week 17:

Jets lose to Browns

Chargers lose to Broncos

 

That is the scenarios for clinching WC spot. Not even looking at division here as it is pretty obvious what needs to happen there. So that was the scenario of beating the Raiders and losing to the Texans. Next up, the opposite. See below.

 

 

If we lose to Raiders:(week 17)

Chargers lose to Broncos

Bengals lose to Chiefs

 

Then week 18:

We need to:

beat the Texans 

+

Raiders lose to Broncos

 

 

 

Easiest ways to get in at 9-8, there are a lot more scenario get in, but this is what I have calculated.

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

51 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Kevin Bowen mentioned how that game yesterday by raiders was the raiders superbowl.  Apparently even pierce post game was really emotional. He says they should be emotionally drained after that.

You never know, it's a week to week league this season. We are 3-point favorites in Vegas already, so that bodes well. They haven't missed on too many lately and usually don't. That isn't a rich city for nothing.

[DiogoSales]

So we got a pass last week and still hanging on the 7TH seed. 

Raiders & Texans to go to clinch a playoff spot, if we cannot win against those 2, we have no reason to want to play the Dolphins on Wild Card. 

 

Lets find out who we are

[w87r]

Another scenario:

 

We beat Raiders 

Texans beat the Titans

 

We would need to the following to occur.

 

Jacksonville win out

 

Then we need:(week 18)

Beat Texans

Dolphins beat Bills

 

 

 

Last one:

If we beat Raiders and lose to Texans we can get in of the following happens 

 

Week 17:

Bills lose to Patriots

Panthers lose to Jags

Titans lose to Texans

Steelers lose to Seahawks

Bengals lose to Chiefs 

Chargers lose to Broncos

 

Week 18:

Titans lose to Jags

Bills lose to Dolphins

Raiders lose to Broncos

 

 

 

So there is a scenario to beat Raiders and lose to Texans.

 

 

Again there are a lot more scenarios that get us in, but these are the easiest paths with all results considered (outside of ties)

[Mr. Irrelevant]

17 minutes ago, DiogoSales said:

So we got a pass last week and still hanging on the 7TH seed. 

Raiders & Texans to go to clinch a playoff spot, if we cannot win against those 2, we have no reason to want to play the Dolphins on Wild Card. 

 

Lets find out who we are

Yep, pretty much this…

[RollerColt]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Kevin Bowen mentioned how that game yesterday by raiders was the raiders superbowl.  Apparently even pierce post game was really emotional. He says they should be emotionally drained after that.

Kind of sounds like wishful thinking…

 

I think this year has proven you can’t predict anything when it comes to all of these bubble teams. We could show up and ball out or end up getting destroyed. 

[JediXMan]

7 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Kind of sounds like wishful thinking…

 

I think this year has proven you can’t predict anything when it comes to all of these bubble teams. We could show up and ball out or end up getting destroyed. 

Broncos vs Pats is a prime example most people penciled in a Broncos win.

[csmopar]

1 hour ago, w87r said:

Another scenario:

 

We beat Raiders 

Texans beat the Titans

 

We would need to the following to occur.

 

Jacksonville win out

 

Then we need:(week 18)

Beat Texans

Dolphins beat Bills

 

 

 

Last one:

If we beat Raiders and lose to Texans we can get in of the following happens 

 

Week 17:

Bills lose to Patriots

Panthers lose to Jags

Titans lose to Texans

Steelers lose to Seahawks

Bengals lose to Chiefs 

Chargers lose to Broncos

 

Week 18:

Titans lose to Jags

Bills lose to Dolphins

Raiders lose to Broncos

 

 

 

So there is a scenario to beat Raiders and lose to Texans.

 

 

Again there are a lot more scenarios that get us in, but these are the easiest paths with all results considered (outside of ties)

Can we get in if we lose both? I mean obviously a lot of help would be needed

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 hour ago, JediXMan said:

Broncos vs Pats is a prime example most people penciled in a Broncos win.

Pats have been playing better with zappe. Broncos are inconsistent. Pats defense is still very good. I thought broncos would win but the result didn’t surprise me much.

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

Kind of sounds like wishful thinking…

 

I think this year has proven you can’t predict anything when it comes to all of these bubble teams. We could show up and ball out or end up getting destroyed. 

Might be. But there was a lot of stuff said by raiders about hating KC. It is a divisional game.

[w87r]

See if I can clean that all up a little better, looks like a mess.

 

 

Clinching scenarios:(Going 1-1, finishing 9-8)

Colts Win vs Raiders:(week 17)

 

Would Need:

Texans to lose to the Titans

Bengals to lose to the Chiefs

Steelers to lose to the Seahawks

 

 +

 

Colts Lose vs Texans:(week 18)

 

+

 

Ravens lose to the Steelers/ or Bengals lose to the Browns(either or)(week 18)

 

 

Or

 

**(if Ravens and Bengals win, the following results would clinch the playoff spot from above)(added results from other games in last 2 weeks)

 

Week 18:

Browns lose to Bengals

Raiders lose to Broncos 

 

+

 

Week 17:

Jets lose to Browns

Chargers lose to Broncos

 

 

 

That's how we clinch the 7th spot at 9-8, with Colts win vs Raiders and loss to Texans, + Texans lose to Titans.

 

 

___________________________________

 

 

Colts lose to Raiders:(week 17)

 

Would need:

Chargers to lose to the Broncos

Bengals to lose to the Chiefs

 

 +

 

Texans lose to the Colts:(week 18)

 

+

 

Raiders lose to Broncos(week 18)

 

Steelers to lose 1 of final 2 games.

___________________________________

 

 

Raiders lose to the Colts:(week 17)

 

+

 

Titans lose to the Texans

 

 

 

Would Need:

Jacksonville win out(week 17+18)

Texans lose to the Colts(week 18)

Bills lose to the Dolphins(week 18)

 

Steelers to lose 1 of final 2 games 

___________________________________

 

**If we beat Raiders and lose to Texans(alternate scenario)

 Would Need:

Week 17:

Bills lose to the Patriots

Panthers lose to the Jaguars

Texans lose to the Titans

Steelers lose to the Seahawks

Bengals lose to the Chiefs 

Chargers lose to the Broncos

 

Week 18:

Titans lose to the Jaguars 

Bills lose to the Dolphins

Raiders lose to the Broncos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

**So there is multiple scenarios to beat Raiders and lose to Texans. There are more as well but here is (4).

[w87r]

11 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Can we get in if we lose both? I mean obviously a lot of help would be needed

 

Impossible as we would be 8-9, and Texan would at worst be 9-8.

 

 

The more interesting one would be a tie, might look into is with some ties. Lol... maybe.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

See if I can clean that all up a little better, looks like a mess.

 

 

Clinching scenarios:

Colts Win vs Raiders:(week 17)

 

Would Need:

Texans to lose to the Titans

Bengals to lose to the Chiefs

Steelers to lose to the Seahawks

 

 +

 

Colts Lose vs Texans:(week 18)

 

+

 

Ravens lose to the Steelers/ or Bengals lose to the Browns(either or)

 

 

Or

 

**(if Ravens and Bengals win, the following results would clinch the playoff spot from above)(added results from other games in last 2 weeks)

 

Week 18:

Browns lose to Bengals

Raiders lose to Broncos 

 

+

 

Week 17:

Jets lose to Browns

Chargers lose to Broncos

 

 

 

That's how we clinch the 7th spot at 9-8, with Colts win vs Raiders and loss to Texans, + Texans lose to Titans.

 

 

___________________________________

 

 

Colts lose to Raiders:(week 17)

 

Would need:

Chargers to lose to the Broncos

Bengals to lose to the Chiefs

 

 +

 

Texans lose to the Colts:(week 18)

 

+

 

Raiders lose to Broncos(week 18)

 

 

___________________________________

 

 

Raiders lose to the Colts:(week 17)

 

+

 

Titans lose to the Texans

 

 

 

Would Need:

Jacksonville win out(week 17+18)

Texans lose to the Colts(week 18)

Bills lose to the Dolphins(week 18)

 

 

___________________________________

 

**If we beat Raiders and lose to Texans(alternate scenario)

 Would Need:

Week 17:

Bills lose to the Patriots

Panthers lose to the Jaguars

Titans lose to the Texans

Steelers lose to the Seahawks

Bengals lose to the Chiefs 

Chargers lose to the Broncos

 

Week 18:

Titans lose to the Jaguars 

Bills lose to the Dolphins

Raiders lose to the Broncos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

**So there is a scenario to beat Raiders and lose to Texans. There are more as well but here is (4).

Colts can clinch with those 3 losing?

[w87r]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Colts can clinch with those 3 losing?

Would also need:

 

Ravens lose to the Steelers/ or Bengals lose to the Browns(either or)(week 18)

 

That would do it, with either of these results plus the other (3) losing.

 

 

Or(alternate)

 

 

**(if Ravens and Bengals win, the following results would clinch the playoff spot from above)(added results from other games in last 2 weeks)

 

 

Week 18:

Browns lose to Bengals

Raiders lose to Broncos 

 

+

 

Week 17:

Jets lose to Browns

Chargers lose to Broncos

[w87r]

And those were just for 1-1 scenarios.

 

 

Much easier going to 2-0. Don't need to much to happen.

[w87r]

 

Another Scenario:(Texans win South)

Colts win against Raiders(week 17)

Colts lose to Texans(week 18)

 

 

Would Need:

Week 17:

Patriots beat the Bills

Texans beat the Titans

Seahawks beat the Steelers 

Broncos beat the Chargers 

Chiefs beat the Bengals

Panthers beat the Jaguars 

 

Week 18:

Jaguars beat the Titans

Broncos beat the Raiders

Dolphins beat the Bills

 

 

**This scenario has (3) AFC South Teams in**

 

 

**IF Jaguars beat Panthers week 17, they would win division, still (3) South teams in.

[RollerColt]

I have a feeling in my soul that it’s sadly going to be Steelers and Bills in with us and everyone else on the outside. 

[runthepost]

5 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I have a feeling in my soul that it’s sadly going to be Steelers and Bills in with us and everyone else on the outside. 

Browns aren’t losing to the Jets. 

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Browns aren’t losing to the Jets. 

I’m not sure we can make guarantees this season. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

I’m not sure we can make guarantees this season. 

I guarantee you we will win at least 8 games, that is what I predicted before the season. Hopefully I will be right 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

One good thing about chiefs and Bengals is bengals defense is not close to the raiders defense. It’s not very good.

[runthepost]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

One good thing about chiefs and Bengals is bengals defense is not close to the raiders defense. It’s not very good.

Double Kelce and play man, none of KC receivers will get open. That’s what the Raiders did but the Raiders have Maxx 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, runthepost said:

Double Kelce and play man, none of KC receivers will get open. That’s what the Raiders did but the Raiders have Maxx 

I don’t think bengals have close to what raiders have. Then add KC defense is very good. At least that’s what I am hanging on too. Lol

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[JediXMan]

20 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

He’s adding a new injury every week.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, JediXMan said:

He’s adding a new injury every week.

With them playing panthers I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t play Sunday.

[FanFromtheWasteland]

Let's just win out so we don't  need the help

[Patrick Miller]

15 hours ago, jskinnz said:

 
For the love of all that is holy - why would it be a trap game for them?

 

 

What I mean is ….maybe they think it’s an easy win for them and they overlook us.

[RollerColt]

4 minutes ago, FanFromtheWasteland said:

Let's just win out so we don't  need the help

Said the same thing last week… and then we lost. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

14 minutes ago, FanFromtheWasteland said:

Let's just win out so we don't  need the help

We still need help if we win both. Not likely we end up in a two way tie with bengals but we could.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Solid84]

7 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yep. The Ravens would have had 1st and 10 at the Colts 45. In which doesn't guarantee they score. Tucker had just missed from 60 yards. However, when we played the Browns, we had the game winning stop and got called for a bogus PI with 30 seconds left. Then again got called for another at the goal line giving the Browns the game. So bringing up a non-call that we got to help us is pretty rich. Most Colts fans don't want to hear that after the REFS gave the game to the Browns.

It was still within Tucker’s range and they would’ve gone for it. 
 

The refs bogus call may have sealed the game against the Browns, but we lost because the Browns scored 17 points off Minshew’s four turnovers. The Colts could have won that game even with the refs screwing them if they’d played proper football.
 

Do you think the coaches came back monday and said: “Welp, nothing to learn here - it was all the refs fault!” Or, did they possibly recognize the Colts made obvious, costly mistakes that ultimately gave the Browns the game?

[jskinnz]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Miller said:

What I mean is ….maybe they think it’s an easy win for them and they overlook us.

 

1) I did not need an explanation of what a trap game is. 
 

2) The Raiders have a losing record and just saved their season. They are not good enough to just show up and beat Indy without their best effort.  I don’t buy for a second that they overlook Indy. 

[jskinnz]

1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

It was still within Tucker’s range and they would’ve gone for it. 
 

The refs bogus call may have sealed the game against the Browns, but we lost because the Browns scored 17 points off Minshew’s four turnovers. The Colts could have won that game even with the refs screwing them if they’d played proper football.
 

Do you think the coaches came back monday and said: “Welp, nothing to learn here - it was all the refs fault!” Or, did they possibly recognize the Colts made obvious, costly mistakes that ultimately gave the Browns the game?

This. I wish I could like a post more than once. 
 

As a life long golfer, being an NFL fan is the same thing. When recounting my round, you always lament the perfect drive down the middle that hit a sprinkler head square and bounced OB. Got hosed by the golf gods. 
 

The ball heading into water that bounced off a turtle and landed a foot from the hole?  Just a deserved break. 
 

My point is it all evens out. You get some breaks and some breaks go against you. To me the Colts record is exactly as it should be. A favorable call helped in one game and hurt in another. 

[tfunky14]

Just win these 2. 

 

[dw49]

7 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

It was still within Tucker’s range and they would’ve gone for it. 
 

The refs bogus call may have sealed the game against the Browns, but we lost because the Browns scored 17 points off Minshew’s four turnovers. The Colts could have won that game even with the refs screwing them if they’d played proper football.
 

Do you think the coaches came back monday and said: “Welp, nothing to learn here - it was all the refs fault!” Or, did they possibly recognize the Colts made obvious, costly mistakes that ultimately gave the Browns the game?

 

The no call on Speed was not nearly as poor as the 2 consecutive bogus PI on the Colts in the Brown's loss. Slow motion showed that Speed hit him a milli-second early but it was a toss-up call watching it in real speed . Nothing like the PI on a ball that  was around 15 feet high and landed in the 4th row .

[Solid84]

1 minute ago, dw49 said:

 

The no call on Speed was not nearly as poor as the 2 consecutive bogus PI on the Colts in the Brown's loss. Slow motion showed that Speed hit him a milli-second early but it was a toss-up call watching it in real speed . Nothing like the PI on a ball that  was around 15 feet high and landed in the 4th row .

That’s fine. But why focus on that instead of the OBVIOUS mistakes the Colts made?

 

If we hadn’t had four turnovers or let them score so many points off of them this would have been a non-issue. 

[JediXMan]

Why are we talking about games months ago let’s focus on discussing these last two games lol.