Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

[Colts.sb41]

35 minutes ago, colts89 said:

That's great value for a RB.

 

If we can get some non-contender team who thinks it's in their best interest to sellout for a star RB, that'd ofc be preferable, but they have got to have a really dumb GM to go for it.

Where’s Grigson when you need him?

[w87r]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

I’d just be cautious because as we’ve seen over and over just because some random person on twitter says so doesn’t mean it’s true yet some think everything tweeted is indeed fact.

Thanks, I don't think anyone is taking any of these as fact. 

 

 

This is just a Dolphins person saying someone who could be a potential fit for a deal.

 

Not that the deal is for him.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, w87r said:

Thanks, I don't think anyone is taking any of these as fact. 

 

 

This is just a Dolphins person saying someone who could be a potential fit for a deal.

 

Not that the deal is for him.

I was just talking about tweets in general from random people on twitter not that tweet specifically per say.

[IndyEric07]

Anyone burn their JT jerseys yet? I luckily didnt buy one, but I’d happily participate in a nice big bonfire that should be started on JTs agents lawn!

[Peter Nova]

34 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

This is why I think the Dolphins are the team that will take the plunge.  Taylor will put them in that arms race.  Colts are going to receive a number of offers I believe. They can work them to get a very nice return.  Hope we get a starting player.

[Colts.sb41]

15 minutes ago, w87r said:

lol, this could be fun for a day or so.

 

Reminds me of the QB thread after Rivers retired.

 

 

Is this guy credible? I’ve never heard of him but that means nothing.

[dw49]

Make him play out his contract and give him a nice franchise tag next year. If he sits out , he gets nothing.

[RollerColt]

6 minutes ago, IndyEric07 said:

Anyone burn their JT jerseys yet? I luckily didnt buy one, but I’d happily participate in a nice big bonfire that should be started on JTs agents lawn!

I’ve made it a point to never buy a running back jersey for any team. Just not worth it. 

[Indeee]

I'm liking the Rams as a potential landing spot too. Their first should be relatively high in 24

[w87r]

27 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

Is this guy credible? I’ve never heard of him but that means nothing.

Don't take anything anyone says as fact from Twitter rumors.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if the Bears have reached out though.

 

 

As has been said here in the thread, Bears have extra picks, they have a lot of cap space and the even have former Colts coach, so a lot of connections there.

 

 

Edit: Also a RB need.

 

 

 

[Defjamz26]

Beats make sense as it would make them competitors in their division. You’d have to worry about JT and Fields in the backfield. Plus stacked boxes would open things up for their receivers on the outside.

 

On another note this is how it has been for the Colts. You solve one need and another pops up. We get our franchise QB and now our franchise RB wants a trade. It’s crazy to me that we have an off-ball LB who is making $20 million but can’t pay JT. We extend players like MAC and Hines, but not the guy who has been the entire offense for the last 3 seasons. And now it’ll be back to the draft for another RB.

[Peter Nova]

4 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

Is this guy credible? I’ve never heard of him but that means nothing.

 

The Bears already have a 1000 yard RB.

 

[Happy2BeHere]

I’m not sad if Taylor goes with how he handled himself. Just hold out for what you want or make the kid sit behind his contract. He has no leverage because he isn’t due much money.

[Hawkeyecolt]

1 hour ago, Indeee said:

Yep, early in camp

Nope. He got hit by a jet ski I believe. 

[Nickster]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Never seen a three team trade in the NFL... You can do a sign and trade, it's a point of negotiation. What usually happens is the two teams agree to trade compensation, then the new team negotiates a contract, and the trade is official once the player passes a physical. Speaking of...

 

 

Technically, the trade isn't official unless the player can pass a physical. And once he passes a physical, he can't go back on PUP. It could work in the offseason, but once camp starts, no sir. So if Taylor were traded, he'd have to somehow find good health again, I guess.

Ok thanks.  I thought you couldn’t do an agreement between 2 teams contingent on the player getting an extension for some reason.  That’s what I meant by 3 party.  An agreement between the teams contingent on an an agreement to the new team and the player.  
 

I have a feeling we might see some miraculous healing magic, but that would depend on MIA giving up a 1st from what someone posted here according to a source.

 

Do American football trainers have that magic spray that works so well in association football players?  That might work for Taylor if they haven’t tried it yet.

[w87r]

4 minutes ago, Indeee said:

I'm liking the Rams as a potential landing spot too. Their first should be relatively high in 24

Teams with relatively high projected picks will be trying to do a 2nd + package.

[Indeee]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Nope. He got hit by a jet ski I believe. 

Yea, you are correct

[Happy2BeHere]

1 minute ago, Indeee said:

Yea, you are correct

I think the colts org got hit by the jet ski.  

[Indeee]

I saw where the Browns freed up cap by restructuring Garrett right around the time the Taylor announcement hit. 

[w87r]

Just now, Indeee said:

I saw where the Browns freed up cap by restructuring Garrett right around the time the Taylor announcement hit. 

Trade em Taylor for Nick Chubb, if they would like, at this point.

 

They might be looking to make a move elsewhere, but it wasn't for Taylor.

 

 

 

 

There a re a lot of teams that have just been loading for this season. It could get interesting.

[JColts72]

12 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

Is this guy credible? I’ve never heard of him but that means nothing.

Another no name twitter just to make things up. I did suggest possible Bears prior to this posting getting traction now.

[ShuteAt168]

There’s no way the Colts seriously expect to get a first-round pick for Taylor. A 2 would be surprising — Ballard wouldn’t be able to say yes fast enough. 

[Superman]

12 minutes ago, Nickster said:

Ok thanks.  I thought you couldn’t do an agreement between 2 teams contingent on the player getting an extension for some reason.  That’s what I meant by 3 party.  An agreement between the teams contingent on an an agreement to the new team and the player.  
 

I have a feeling we might see some miraculous healing magic, but that would depend on MIA giving up a 1st from what someone posted here according to a source.

 

Do American football trainers have that magic spray that works so well in association football players?  That might work for Taylor if they haven’t tried it yet.

 

Ah. That's what we did with the Buckner trade. It happens a couple times a year. 

[csmopar]

20 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Beats make sense as it would make them competitors in their division. You’d have to worry about JT and Fields in the backfield. Plus stacked boxes would open things up for their receivers on the outside.

 

On another note this is how it has been for the Colts. You solve one need and another pops up. We get our franchise QB and now our franchise RB wants a trade. It’s crazy to me that we have an off-ball LB who is making $20 million but can’t pay JT. We extend players like MAC and Hines, but not the guy who has been the entire offense for the last 3 seasons. And now it’ll be back to the draft for another RB.

But they also don’t know if he’s healthy 

[w87r]

 

The fans have flipped on him. A lot deserved with how he's handled it.

 

 

It's not about what he did, it's how he did it, Lawrence.

 

 

[Nickster]

7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Ah. That's what we did with the Buckner trade. It happens a couple times a year. 

Not to quibble because that situation is different.  In the NBA I think the trading team signs the guy then trades him.  I think I’m not sure though.

 

was the buck deal a signed deal to get that money or was a a “gentleman’s agreement” between the Colts and Buck?
 

if that were the case I think a gentleman’s agreement between Bears or MIA and JT would possibly be problematic.

[Moe]

16 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:

There’s no way the Colts seriously expect to get a first-round pick for Taylor. A 2 would be surprising — Ballard wouldn’t be able to say yes fast enough. 

A 4 or 5 Round pick is probably the best case scenario.

[superrep1967]

2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

Preseason. Nothing matters. Stop being upset over nothing. 

I’m a Colts fan for life to we got that in common. 

[w87r]

3 minutes ago, Nickster said:

Not to quibble because that situation is different.  In the NBA I think the trading team signs the guy then trades him.  I think I’m not sure though.

 

was the buck deal a signed deal to get that money or was a a “gentleman’s agreement” between the Colts and Buck?
 

if that were the case I think a gentleman’s agreement between Bears or MIA and JT would possibly be problematic.

https://overthecap.com/player/deforest-buckner/4720

 

"The Colts signed DeForest Buckner to a four year, $84 million contract extension that will be executed once a trade is finalized between the Colts and 49ers. "

 

 

Extension was after the trade, but more than likely agreed to prior. "Gentleman's Agreement" like you said.

[w87r]

Anyone get anxious in times like these when it shows Chloe typing?

 

Just wandering is this the one?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

colts are probably smart looking at trading Taylor when they know they are at least two years away from a SB run. They could use draft picks. Then add a loaded running back class it’s probably smart if they can get good draft compensation.

[Defjamz26]

16 minutes ago, csmopar said:

But they also don’t know if he’s healthy 

That too. Bet they offer a 2nd+3rd and Herbert in exchange.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

16 minutes ago, w87r said:

 

The fans have flipped on him. A lot deserved with how he's handled it.

 

 

It's not about what he did, it's how he did it, Lawrence.

 

 

Lawrence is exactly right here. Fans are man Irsay and Ballard won’t overpay when they always complain about overpaying.

[Indeee]

5 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

That too. Bet they offer a 2nd+3rd and Herbert in exchange.

I would take Herbert easily and call it a day. Herbert is a monster, which is why i don't believe the bears are legitimate players here

[azcolt]

1 hour ago, csmopar said:

Yes I am. I’m also old enough to know there’s two sides to that story and really the Baltimore city council and the state of Maryland are to blame for that,  not Irsay 

A defender of Bob Irsay. That must be a lonely place. If you were going to refute my comments it would have been more sensible to say Jim Irsay is a much better person and probably also felt a little bad about Johnny Unitas and the Mayflower.

[Jackie Daytona]

3 hours ago, colts89 said:

It'll be interesting to see what comes from this. I still doubt there'll be any good offers from contenders until late in the season if Taylor has proven he's healthy.

 

If they trade him for scraps to get away from the drama, then that's just stupid. At worst, keep him stashed on PUP.

Who says it needs to be a contender?  Stupid trades are made all the time.

[Indeee]

I wonder if Kareem Hunt is still in play for Indy. He hasn't signed anywhere yet and if, IF, the Colts trade away Taylor, Hunt would be an immediate starter in Indy. 

[Jackie Daytona]

3 minutes ago, azcolt said:

A defender of Bob Irsay. That must be a lonely place. If you were going to refute my comments it would have been more sensible to say Jim Irsay is a much better person and probably also felt a little bad about Johnny Unitas and the Mayflower.

No, he's not a Bob Irsay defender, he's "correct" go check it out.

[throwing BBZ]

40 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Beats make sense as it would make them competitors in their division. You’d have to worry about JT and Fields in the backfield. Plus stacked boxes would open things up for their receivers on the outside.

 

On another note this is how it has been for the Colts. You solve one need and another pops up. We get our franchise QB and now our franchise RB wants a trade. It’s crazy to me that we have an off-ball LB who is making $20 million but can’t pay JT. We extend players like MAC and Hines, but not the guy who has been the entire offense for the last 3 seasons. And now it’ll be back to the draft for another RB.

 

  But we have plenty of cap to pay him. You do understand that right?

Crazy is Paying the guy even $12m. We don't Need him. Steichen has assured them we will be fine as long as we have an excellent o-line. 

 That will take at least one more off season.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I kind of hope this is all over before Ballard does his presser. Maybe we will get some more honesty on what really happened. Because this went to crap fast.