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I have no doubt Manning would've succeeded wherever he went, but sometimes I wonder if Leaf might have had a better chance if he hadn't landed on a really messed up late '90s Chargers team. They were a lot like the recent Bengals teams, and similar to the direction the Jets are heading in (IMO). No discipline, no structure, precious little leadership, altogether too much thuggery and me-first attitudes. An immature, impulsive and self-centered Leaf never stood a chance in that environment.

Then again, maybe it wouldn't have mattered, and he'd have busted no matter what. Either way, it is sad to witness the depths he has fallen. I used to love to watch him play in college.

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He's headed for a suicide attempt, one which he will likely fail at. I'm not trying to be funny. His psyche reeks of a coward and his circling of the drain will not end well.

I was thinking the same thing. Although, I fully expect to see that he has indeed succeeded in his suicide attempt. He's facing many yrs. in prison and that would be a hard thing to wrap your mind around. I couldn't stand the dude but this is truely a sad story. I hope he makes it through this terrible time in his life, but I won't be surprised at all if he just gives up and ends it all.

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I was thinking the same thing. Although, I fully expect to see that he has indeed succeeded in his suicide attempt. He's facing many yrs. in prison and that would be a hard thing to wrap your mind around. I couldn't stand the dude but this is truely a sad story. I hope he makes it through this terrible time in his life, but I won't be surprised at all if he just gives up and ends it all.

I know it sounds mean to some, and it certainly isn't wishful thinking, but what we see with Leaf is a progressively worsening state of being, one that must have an end. Imagine all that he's lost. The chance to live the dream of being an NFL QB. The fame, the mass fortune to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, all gone now. Now his freedom will be gone too.

What makes me concerned of suicide is that I watched my own good friend spiral into a depraved pill addiction, and it resulted in a self inflicted fatal gunshot wound at age 35 when his reclusive lifestyle was coming to an end. He was facing charges for embezzling money from his elderly neighbor and on the night of his suicide, his mother had asked him to leave her house because he did nothing but get high and steal from her. He walked into his room, sat in his chair and shot himself to death.

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I know it sounds mean to some, and it certainly isn't wishful thinking, but what we see with Leaf is a progressively worsening state of being, one that must have an end. Imagine all that he's lost. The chance to live the dream of being an NFL QB. The fame, the mass fortune to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, all gone now. Now his freedom will be gone too.

What makes me concerned of suicide is that I watched my own good friend spiral into a depraved pill addiction, and it resulted in a self inflicted fatal gunshot wound at age 35 when his reclusive lifestyle was coming to an end. He was facing charges for embezzling money from his elderly neighbor and on the night of his suicide, his mother had asked him to leave her house because he did nothing but get high and steal from her. He walked into his room, sat in his chair and shot himself to death.

I have had several friends die from overdosing on pills and 1 mixing methadone and xanex(lethal combination). Addiction sucks, I've been there, but it is beatable.

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I have had several friends die from overdosing on pills and 1 mixing methadone and xanex(lethal combination). Addiction sucks, I've been there, but it is beatable.

The guy needs to turn himself in. I can only imagine that severe depression may have been a culprit to his addiction.

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I know it sounds mean to some, and it certainly isn't wishful thinking, but what we see with Leaf is a progressively worsening state of being, one that must have an end. Imagine all that he's lost. The chance to live the dream of being an NFL QB. The fame, the mass fortune to the tune of tens of millions of dollars, all gone now. Now his freedom will be gone too.

What makes me concerned of suicide is that I watched my own good friend spiral into a depraved pill addiction, and it resulted in a self inflicted fatal gunshot wound at age 35 when his reclusive lifestyle was coming to an end. He was facing charges for embezzling money from his elderly neighbor and on the night of his suicide, his mother had asked him to leave her house because he did nothing but get high and steal from her. He walked into his room, sat in his chair and shot himself to death.

This is very sad, indeed. I am sorry for you that you had to experience this from your friend. I too think Ryan needs some serious help or he will spiral into this same scenario. He's almost there, unless someone can intervene and get him the help he needs
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you can only give help to those who want it. he does not want it. gave a former friend that chance and she burned me. she just 3anted sympathy and an enabler friend. i wouldnt do it, now she hates me for it. only thing that will help him is incarseration.

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