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I do is see his point for one reason. I think three or four is too high for Richardson, and I just don’t have much faith in Levin as being a good NFL quarterback. Young is too short 

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17 minutes ago, AustexColt said:

Our 4th pick should be Will Anderson, if Stroud or Bryce are gone. He is perfect for the Gus Bradley's defense. 

No. Great player but the Colts go absolutely backward if they don’t grab a QB at 4. It’s way, way overdue. Time to take the leap of faith. 

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The problem we have is that if we don’t take a QB now and we don’t trade back to pick up an additional 1st next year I doubt we draft in the top 2 next year. 
 

I’m afraid we end up winning 5 or 6 games and get stuck outside the top 5

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1 minute ago, Hoose said:

No. Great player but the Colts go absolutely backward if they don’t grab a QB at 4. It’s way, way overdue. Time to take the leap of faith. 

If Will Anderson is the next Von Miller I wouldn’t be upset at all with taking him. But then you gotta have a plan to get your QB. In that scenario I wouldn’t mind drafting a Hendon Hooker round 2 or so. All these QBs have question marks. 

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45 minutes ago, AustexColt said:

Our 4th pick should be Will Anderson, if Stroud or Bryce are gone. He is perfect for the Gus Bradley's defense. 

 

 If he is determined to be the best choice it would be a fine add.

Move Kwity over, put 15 lbs on Dayo and we would unleash it inside with a great rotation.

 Us going after Hooker would get interesting.

 

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33 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We will see what kind of balls Ballard has shortly Christmas Tree GIF

Or maybe it will just show what his evaluation of the available QB's are?

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Qb is a huge need obviously but you don't draft one just for the sake of drafting one. That could set the team back even more.

 

If Will Anderson is rated leaps and bounds ahead of the next  available qb, you take Anderson. 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Mike06181 said:

Nfl network was discussing something along the lines of this. You draft a non qb at 4. Then offer on lamar that way your pick compensation is 1st in 24&25.

Very interesting idea 

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If Ballard even suggested this and I was Irsay, Id fire him on the spot because he clearly doesn't understand our position, our team, and the state of the NFL. A top-20 QB is 5x more valuable to a team than the best DE in the league. 

 

Besides how many 'can't miss' QB's have there been in the last 40 years? I mean that were can't miss BEFORE the draft - three or four (Luck, Manning, Elway, Lawrence)? We keep waiting for can't miss and we will be waiting for 10 more years for him to show up and another 20-30 years hoping we happen to have the #1 pick when he does show up. 

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16 minutes ago, Mitch Connors said:

If Ballard even suggested this and I was Irsay, Id fire him on the spot because he clearly doesn't understand our position, our team, and the state of the NFL. A top-20 QB is 5x more valuable to a team than the best DE in the league. 

 

Besides how many 'can't miss' QB's have there been in the last 40 years? I mean that were can't miss BEFORE the draft - three or four (Luck, Manning, Elway, Lawrence)? We keep waiting for can't miss and we will be waiting for 10 more years for him to show up and another 20-30 years hoping we happen to have the #1 pick when he does show up. 

Do you honestly think the 3rd or 4th rated QB in this draft is a better pick than Will Anderson? 

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1 hour ago, CR91 said:

So we're tanking?


Do you think Levis or AR are better than Hooker?  We have Minshew who can hold down the fort until Hooker is ready.  
 

We need an Edge.  

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49 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

Qb is a huge need obviously but you don't draft one just for the sake of drafting one. That could set the team back even more.

 

If Will Anderson is rated leaps and bounds ahead of the next  available qb, you take Anderson. 

 

 

If the Colts have a chance at Stroud or Young I would pick one of those two. If not, I would pick Anderson.

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The Colts won't go defense with the #4 pick - regardless of which QBs are - or - are not available at that point.

 

We've waited since 2012 - to draft this high again - and - QB has been our most glaring need since Andrew Luck shocked us all by retiring.

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10 minutes ago, sb41champs said:

The Colts won't go defense with the #4 pick - regardless of which QBs are - or - are not available at that point.

 

We've waited since 2012 - to draft this high again - and - QB has been our most glaring need since Andrew Luck shocked us all by retiring.

Exactly. The need for a QB trumps everything else. You’re in purgatory until you get one. 

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YES take Anderson! Hooker round 2 if he's there or move back in late round 1 to grab him. He was rated #3 behind Young and Stroud before his injury, after the combine medicals they are saying he is way ahead of schedule and would be ready to go in August, if not let Minshew start till Hooker is 100%

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57 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Do you honestly think the 3rd or 4th rated QB in this draft is a better pick than Will Anderson? 

I didn't say better I said more valuable.

And yes, if the 4th rated QB in this draft winds up being the 18th-best QB in the league and Anderson becomes Joey Bosa - the QB is worth way way way more to a franchise. 

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2 hours ago, Hoose said:

No. Great player but the Colts go absolutely backward if they don’t grab a QB at 4. It’s way, way overdue. Time to take the leap of faith. 

I respectfully disagree here. I agree with @AustexColt The Colts have many needs, not just QB and one is most assuredly Pass Rush. I'm not inclined to grab a QB just based on leaps of faith or needing one. Especially as I believe this class contains zero guaranteed locks at that position.

 

2024 Maye and Williams, barring injuries are locks. 

 

I would ride with Minshew and Ellingher if Stroud and Young are gone 100%

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17 minutes ago, Hoose said:

Exactly. The need for a QB trumps everything else. You’re in purgatory until you get one. 

 

Can't argue about the need.  The argument is who is available when we pick.  Is that THE GUY?  

 

I don't know the answer.  I know I'd take Young or Stroud without question.  Are the other two worth a 4th?  IDK.  I'd go Edge and trade back in the 1st for Hooker.  

 

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23 minutes ago, Shadow_Creek said:

this is not even a discussion cause the cards are taking Anderson at 3...next topic :scratch:

If this is the consensus belief then I would offer the Cards Taylor, Kelly, Moore, and Dayo for the third pick overall, plus AZ 3rd this year.

 

No brainer. Get 'Er Done!!

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53 minutes ago, Indeee said:

I respectfully disagree here. I agree with @AustexColt The Colts have many needs, not just QB and one is most assuredly Pass Rush. I'm not inclined to grab a QB just based on leaps of faith or needing one. Especially as I believe this class contains zero guaranteed locks at that position.

 

2024 Maye and Williams, barring injuries are locks. 

 

I would ride with Minshew and Ellingher if Stroud and Young are gone 100%

Levis is going to be great. He's coachable. Mark Stoops talks about him being a student of the game and needs refined. Stiechen can get him where he needs to be. He did it with less. His problems are coachable. Richardson is a certified bust. If that doesn't suit your fancy. Go get Lamar. We have a defense. Our wideouts suck so having the corners and safties constantly looking in the backfield could only help the. Lamar > any QB in this draft.

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43 minutes ago, Indeee said:

I respectfully disagree here. I agree with @AustexColt The Colts have many needs, not just QB and one is most assuredly Pass Rush. I'm not inclined to grab a QB just based on leaps of faith or needing one. Especially as I believe this class contains zero guaranteed locks at that position.

 

2024 Maye and Williams, barring injuries are locks. 

 

I would ride with Minshew and Ellingher if Stroud and Young are gone 100%

Understood. But under this scenario, you could go on in perpetuity waiting for the right QB to be there. Either you aggressively pursue your next QB or you stay mediocre. I’d rather swing and miss with a guy like Levis who has a better than decent chance of being a darn good QB. Anderson may or may not be as good as touted, but until you get a QB, he’ll be playing on a team going nowhere. 
Which is why you roll the dice and take a guy who will likely  go no lower than top 7 in the draft if you pass on him. I’m just fine with Will Levis as the next Colts QB. 

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10 minutes ago, FuedinHatfield said:

Levis is going to be great. He's coachable. Mark Stoops talks about him being a student of the game and needs refined. Stiechen can get him where he needs to be. He did it with less. His problems are coachable. Richardson is a certified bust.

 

4 minutes ago, Hoose said:

Understood. But under this scenario, you could go on in perpetuity waiting for the right QB to be there. Either you aggressively pursue your next QB or you stay mediocre. I’d rather swing and miss with a guy like Levis who has a better than decent chance of being a darn good QB. Anderson may or may not be as good as touted, but until you get a QB, he’ll be playing on a team going nowhere. 
Which is why you roll the dice and take a guy who will likely  go no lower than top 7 in the draft if you pass on him. I’m just fine with Will Levis as the next Colts QB. 

Who knows, maybe you both will be right about Levis. Anything is possible

Posted
2 hours ago, Smonroe said:


Do you think Levis or AR are better than Hooker?  We have Minshew who can hold down the fort until Hooker is ready.  
 

We need an Edge.  

 

I've had this discussion before. I'm not putting my bets on a 25 year old QB coming off an ACL injury. That's insanity 

Posted
3 hours ago, Mike06181 said:

Nfl network was discussing something along the lines of this. You draft a non qb at 4. Then offer on lamar that way your pick compensation is 1st in 24&25.

I’m anti Lamar but that isn’t a bad strategy 

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6 hours ago, Hoose said:

Exactly. The need for a QB trumps everything else. You’re in purgatory until you get one. 

The problem is if you reach for a qb and he fails you put your organization back years. And most of them do fail. 

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4 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

I've had this discussion before. I'm not putting my bets on a 25 year old QB coming off an ACL injury. That's insanity 

Who played in an offense that only read half the field.  

4 hours ago, csmopar said:

I’m anti Lamar but that isn’t a bad strategy 

Until Baltimore matches the offer. 

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7 hours ago, Mitch Connors said:

If Ballard even suggested this and I was Irsay, Id fire him on the spot because he clearly doesn't understand our position, our team, and the state of the NFL. A top-20 QB is 5x more valuable to a team than the best DE in the league. 

 

Besides how many 'can't miss' QB's have there been in the last 40 years? I mean that were can't miss BEFORE the draft - three or four (Luck, Manning, Elway, Lawrence)? We keep waiting for can't miss and we will be waiting for 10 more years for him to show up and another 20-30 years hoping we happen to have the #1 pick when he does show up. 

I get that we need s QB but saying Levis or Richardson would be a top 20 QB is a stretch IMHO.

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1 hour ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Who played in an offense that only read half the field.  

Until Baltimore matches the offer. 

Then we roll with Sam E into a better QB draft next year

8 hours ago, Mitch Connors said:

If Ballard even suggested this and I was Irsay, Id fire him on the spot because he clearly doesn't understand our position, our team, and the state of the NFL. A top-20 QB is 5x more valuable to a team than the best DE in the league. 

 

Besides how many 'can't miss' QB's have there been in the last 40 years? I mean that were can't miss BEFORE the draft - three or four (Luck, Manning, Elway, Lawrence)? We keep waiting for can't miss and we will be waiting for 10 more years for him to show up and another 20-30 years hoping we happen to have the #1 pick when he does show up. 

And combined, those can’t miss prospects have won what, 4 Super Bowls?

Posted

If that's the scenario then I would like to trade back get multiple picks and draft QB probably Hooker or McKee I know I know ain't gonna fix QB issue but who knows maybe we find our Brock Purdy but honestly we need more than QB but again we badly need QB as well. Good God glad I ain't NFL GM just a madden GM.

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6 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

I've had this discussion before. I'm not putting my bets on a 25 year old QB coming off an ACL injury. That's insanity 

Putting any bets on any QBs not named Stroud or Young is a huge risk. Why not take the best and most talented player in the draft if you can? 

Posted
1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:

Putting any bets on any QBs not named Stroud or Young is a huge risk. Why not take the best and most talented player in the draft if you can? 

 

Because Will Anderson isn't changing the fact we have no QB. You're not winning in the AFC if you don't have someone to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Lamar, Watson, and Lawrence 

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Just now, CR91 said:

 

Because Will Anderson isn't changing the fact we have no QB. You're not winning in the AFC if you don't have someone to compete with Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Lamar, Watson, and Lawrence 

And you honestly think there is a Mahomes, an Allen or a Burrow in this draft class? Maybe Stroud or Young but the rest is meh. Taking the bpa is not a bad thing regardless of your opinion.  

Posted
2 hours ago, Mike06181 said:

The problem is if you reach for a qb and he fails you put your organization back years. And most of them do fail. 

This forum would explode if WE failed to drafty a QB. Ballard has been touched for not drafting a QB before and we are in the best position we've been in since he has been a GM. Nothing is a sure thing but you got to go for it.

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