Make Your Case for Who Should Be the Next Colts QB! (Not just draft pick)

[philba101]

Notice I didn't just say who should the Colts draft with the #4 pick, we already have a thread just for that alone. I want to hear all ideas and why you support that. That means nothing is off the table. Maybe you think the Colts should trade for a QB like they have the last couple seasons. Maybe trade the number 4 pick and get multiple picks or another veteran QB. Maybe pay big money and get your preferred QB in free agency. Maybe trade up and take your favorite at #1; Maybe take the best available at #4; Maybe trade down and take a QB later in the first or 2nd round; Maybe you don't like any of the QB's in this draft and want to wait until next year. If you had your choice, who do you want taking that first snap under center for the Colts when they start next season?

 

Who is your guy? Brady, Rodgers, Carr or Jackson? Stroud, Young, Levis or Richarson? Wentz, Heinicke, Garoppolo, Mayfield or Minshew? Maybe you want to run it back with Brissett, Ryan, Foles, or Ehlinger? Make your case for the next Colts QB!

[Indeee]

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

[ProblChld32]

First of all I just have to say I have a strong distaste for Tom Brady but I’d sign him in a heartbeat under a year contract and then draft CJ Stroud or Levis whoever falls to us at number 4. Have them sit behind Brady and truly learn how to be a QB in the NFL. With the remaining picks provide him with some weapons and protection and bolster the defensive side of the ball. 

[danlhart87]

9 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

you would trade up just to trade down

 

[danlhart87]

10 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

[tfunky14]

14 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

wth is this?

[Stephen]

I should be the next colts qb because I need the money. Im 5'7 216 pounds lol

[coltsblue1844]

14 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

All of that likely wouldn't happen, but I also want Maye as our future QB...it would take another top 5 pick next year (assuming he goes #2 or #3)...but I think he will be one of the top guys for a long time!

[Indeee]

5 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

First off, it is insane and will never happen and wasn't really meant to be taken all that serious, however if it did and it followed along the lines of the amount of picks we would gain this year for next year, we could easily snag all those players I listed

[ChuggaBeer]

Trade back and take Richardson and get a pick or two to add weapons 

[philba101]

18 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

Now there is a man with a plan!

[philba101]

3 hours ago, Stephen said:

I should be the next colts qb because I need the money. Im 5'7 216 pounds lol

Looks like it is Drake Maye, Richardson, and Brady/Stroud 1, the rest of the QB landscape zero at this point. I am not sure what the scouts will do with Stephen at 5'7"?

[csmopar]

21 hours ago, philba101 said:

Notice I didn't just say who should the Colts draft with the #4 pick, we already have a thread just for that alone. I want to hear all ideas and why you support that. That means nothing is off the table. Maybe you think the Colts should trade for a QB like they have the last couple seasons. Maybe trade the number 4 pick and get multiple picks or another veteran QB. Maybe pay big money and get your preferred QB in free agency. Maybe trade up and take your favorite at #1; Maybe take the best available at #4; Maybe trade down and take a QB later in the first or 2nd round; Maybe you don't like any of the QB's in this draft and want to wait until next year. If you had your choice, who do you want taking that first snap under center for the Colts when they start next season?

 

Who is your guy? Brady, Rodgers, Carr or Jackson? Stroud, Young, Levis or Richarson? Wentz, Heinicke, Garoppolo, Mayfield or Minshew? Maybe you want to run it back with Brissett, Ryan, Foles, or Ehlinger? Make your case for the next Colts QB!

Arch Manning… 

 

[RollerColt]

CJ Stroud. I just have a good feeling about him that I can't fully explain. My opinion of him may change between now and April, but right now Stroud is who I'd like to have leading the team next season. 

 

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Arch Manning… 

 

Only 4 years to go! He's going to be special no doubt. 

[PRnum1]

5 hours ago, Stephen said:

I should be the next colts qb because I need the money. Im 5'7 216 pounds lol

You're only an inch shorter than Bryce Young

[Stephen]

6 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

You're only an inch shorter than Bryce Young

Weigh more though lol

[stitches]

I think all prospects in this draft are very much flawed and some of them in ways that I don't see finding their solution with time. IMO @Indeeeis not crazy for his ultimate goal/end result. Drake Maye and Caleb Williams IMO are much better prospects than any of the QBs in this draft. The problem is... you have zero guarantee you will be able to get them next season. You can have a horrible season next year and end up with the 3d or 4th pick just like this year and be left without a worthy QB to pick and IMO both Maye and Williams are players that practically no team will trade out of. For example, if either of them were in this draft, IMO Chicago would just draft them and trade Fields. They are too good to not draft. There are maybe like 5 teams that can afford to trade that pick and those teams are not drafting top 5. 

 

With that said, about the QBs in this year's draft. In my mind having high ceiling is the most important thing for a QB prospect. Having high floor is very low on my priority list simply because I don't value high floor with QBs, average is not good enough... it's almost as bad as a total bust. IMO you have to aim high. And yes, this comes with a lot of risk especially in the prospects of this draft. The highest ceiling QB IMO is Anthony Richardson. And yes, he's the riskiest of them all. Highest bust potential... longest road to travel to his ceiling. But IMO Richardson has the best physical and athletic profile in this draft. Great stature, great body for an NFL QB. Great speed and elusiveness. Great arm. Physically and athletically he has it all, he's the best athletic package of any QB in this draft. He has a lot of work to do when it comes to processing of the game and command of the offense. He is not a good QB right now. But he has some of the best splashes of play out of any QB in this draft. His tape is littered with things you see and think - yeah... even in the NFL they cannot stop that. But nothing is consistent there. His footwork is inconsistent, his throwing mechanics need work... his decisionmaking is inconsistent, his accuracy is all over the place. But again... you can see not just athletic plays, but also throws that you see from some of the best QBs in the league. Opposite hash back shoulder throws, deep outs, bullet throws on a rope 30 yards downfield, deep posts and seams. A lot of the toughest throws in football, he has them in the bag... I also like he pocket presence and movement. I think he's actually one of the better QBs in that respect. He projects as a dual threat QB with excellent physicality, movement and arm. You can run an offense similar to what either the Eagles or the Ravens run without much problem... designed QB runs would be a feature of such offense, putting the defense in conflict, skewing the numbers in your favor in the box... 

 

You will need a strong developmental offensive(QB) coach though(Steichen will be great one and has had success developing both Herbert and Hurts into top QBs)...

 

Richardson is a bust waiting to happen and if I have to be honest... it's probably more likely he busts than he becomes a top 10QB in the NFL. But I think he has the best chance to be a top QB in the league from this class... and thus... reluctantly I think if I had to draft a QB in this draft... I'd probably draft him. 

[philba101]

3 hours ago, csmopar said:

Arch Manning… 

 

That may take some serious delayed gratification waiting for Arch Manning.

[philba101]

3 hours ago, RollerColt said:

CJ Stroud. I just have a good feeling about him that I can't fully explain. My opinion of him may change between now and April, but right now Stroud is who I'd like to have leading the team next season. 

 

Only 4 years to go! He's going to be special no doubt. 

He is my favorite from the film I have watched so far.  He is very poised and showed good maturity from last year to this one. Get this guy a line and some weapons and I think he will do fine. The question is will he still be available at #4?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

22 hours ago, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't seen Maye  at all but have seen a little of Caleb Williams who I think his floor is a Franchise QB but with a ceiling of being elite and a team leader. 

So I guess you like Maye over Caleb..... I'll have to check him out but have plenty of time, God willing of course. Lol

[philba101]

4 hours ago, philba101 said:

Looks like it is Drake Maye, Richardson, and Brady/Stroud 1, the rest of the QB landscape zero at this point. I am not sure what the scouts will do with Stephen at 5'7"?

Brady is out of the picture with his retirement today!

[philba101]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

I think all prospects in this draft are very much flawed and some of them in ways that I don't see finding their solution with time. IMO @Indeeeis not crazy for his ultimate goal/end result. Drake Maye and Caleb Williams IMO are much better prospects than any of the QBs in this draft. The problem is... you have zero guarantee you will be able to get them next season. You can have a horrible season next year and end up with the 3d or 4th pick just like this year and be left without a worthy QB to pick and IMO both Maye and Williams are players that practically no team will trade out of. For example, if either of them were in this draft, IMO Chicago would just draft them and trade Fields. They are too good to not draft. There are maybe like 5 teams that can afford to trade that pick and those teams are not drafting top 5. 

 

With that said, about the QBs in this year's draft. In my mind having high ceiling is the most important thing for a QB prospect. Having high floor is very low on my priority list simply because I don't value high floor with QBs, average is not good enough... it's almost as bad as a total bust. IMO you have to aim high. And yes, this comes with a lot of risk especially in the prospects of this draft. The highest ceiling QB IMO is Anthony Richardson. And yes, he's the riskiest of them all. Highest bust potential... longest road to travel to his ceiling. But IMO Richardson has the best physical and athletic profile in this draft. Great stature, great body for an NFL QB. Great speed and elusiveness. Great arm. Physically and athletically he has it all, he's the best athletic package of any QB in this draft. He has a lot of work to do when it comes to processing of the game and command of the offense. He is not a good QB right now. But he has some of the best splashes of play out of any QB in this draft. His tape is littered with things you see and think - yeah... even in the NFL they cannot stop that. But nothing is consistent there. His footwork is inconsistent, his throwing mechanics need work... his decisionmaking is inconsistent, his accuracy is all over the place. But again... you can see not just athletic plays, but also throws that you see from some of the best QBs in the league. Opposite hash back shoulder throws, deep outs, bullet throws on a rope 30 yards downfield, deep posts and seams. A lot of the toughest throws in football, he has them in the bag... I also like he pocket presence and movement. I think he's actually one of the better QBs in that respect. He projects as a dual threat QB with excellent physicality, movement and arm. You can run an offense similar to what either the Eagles or the Ravens run without much problem... designed QB runs would be a feature of such offense, putting the defense in conflict, skewing the numbers in your favor in the box... 

 

You will need a strong developmental offensive(QB) coach though(Steichen will be great one and has had success developing both Herbert and Hurts into top QBs)...

 

Richardson is a bust waiting to happen and if I have to be honest... it's probably more likely he busts than he becomes a top 10QB in the NFL. But I think he has the best chance to be a top QB in the league from this class... and thus... reluctantly I think if I had to draft a QB in this draft... I'd probably draft him. 

Would you take him at #4 or trade down and hope you can still get him at #7 or #9?

[stitches]

10 minutes ago, philba101 said:

Would you take him at #4 or trade down and hope you can still get him at #7 or #9?

Honestly... Ideally I would like to trade back in order to mitigate some of the risk we are taking, but if you really think he can be a franchise guy... you just take him. If Carolina gives you their 1st next year... I would probably do it. 

 

I think right now my preferences are - trade back, get 1sts for next year. If you HAVE TO take a QB - Richardson=>Levis... third option - Hooker in the second. 

 

BTW this whole thing is of course is contingent on him acing the meetings and drive/work ethic evaluations. Because if he doesn't you don't draft him. He needs too much work and you need him to actually have the determination to get better. 

[Indeee]

2 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I haven't seen Maye  at all but have seen a little of Caleb Williams who I think his floor is a Franchise QB but with a ceiling of being elite and a team leader. 

So I guess you like Maye over Caleb..... I'll have to check him out but have plenty of time, God willing of course. Lol

Barring injury they both are very good. Either one would be better than this years crop imho

[coltsfeva]

  I’m glad you made this a “plural” selection because if they do grab a QB in the draft, they are going to either start him right away or have somebody cover a year or two, until he’s ready. 
  So many options:

Do you trade for #1 and if so, who do you get?

Can you wait and be satisfied with whoever is there at #4?

  Are you satisfied with Ehliger for a year or do you go after a vet ?

 

    I know you want names but to be honest, I don’t know enough to name names and I’m not ashamed to say that. I’m trusting Ballard because he’s a pretty I do think his legacy depends on who he drafts at QB and who he hires as HC.

 

[Smoke317]

Bryce Young. Guy has lit it up wherever he’s played; whatever the level of competition. Transferred into national power house Mater Dei and immediately lit up the top high school athletes in California. Won national championships. Went to national powerhouse Alabama.  Sat and learned under Saban and when his time came, he again lit up the top athletes this time in the SEC.

If not for losing both his top receivers, he beats Georgia (again) and is national champion on top of his Heisman.  Played this past year with young inexperienced receivers and still tore up the SEC.  Guy is just an amazing QB & football player. The Steph Curry of the NFL.  Right in time to enter the league as Brady retires.
 

He’s been a phenomenon for years. Don’t overthink it. He’s the next in the line of Peyton, Luck, & Lawrence.  It’s already been written. Trade up for him and let’s takeover the league. 

[Aces101]

Richardson 

[Defjamz26]

I’m all for what wins in todays league. What wins in today’s league at the QB position is arm strength, Athleticism, and the ability to create outside of structure. Allen, Herbert, Lamar, and Mahomes are young QBs who come to mind when you think of guys with those traits.

 

The other important factor to me that I learned to account for due to the failure of Wentz (in Philly and Indy) and the success of Jalen Hurts is character. If you don’t have that fire and competitive drive to be the best, it won’t work out. Along with that you need heart and toughness. 
 

When I look at the guy who checks all those boxes, I think of Will Levis. A lot of people don’t like him because he’s kind of the middle child in the draft. He doesn’t have the floor of Stroud or Young, but doesn’t have Richardson’s ceiling. I look at him as the best of both worlds though. He’s got a better athletic profile than Stroud and Young, but is more polished than Richardson. So athletically he’s closer to Richardson, but mechanically he’s closer to Stroud/Young.

 

He has some things you can’t teach, including a notable fiery demeanor and a love to be coached hard. He was a team captain basically the same day he transferred. He played injured for most of the season as well. I think he’s a guy that’s going to go to the Combine and people will hop back on his bandwagon.

 

TBH I’d be okay with Stroud, Levis, or Richardson because we just need to get a young QB at this point. But my preference would be Levis. He’s got all the tools. I think his flaws are fixable too.

[philba101]

15 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

  I’m glad you made this a “plural” selection because if they do grab a QB in the draft, they are going to either start him right away or have somebody cover a year or two, until he’s ready. 
  So many options:

Do you trade for #1 and if so, who do you get?

Can you wait and be satisfied with whoever is there at #4?

  Are you satisfied with Ehliger for a year or do you go after a vet ?

 

    I know you want names but to be honest, I don’t know enough to name names and I’m not ashamed to say that. I’m trusting Ballard because he’s a pretty I do think his legacy depends on who he drafts at QB and who he hires as HC.

 

I agree, the Colts have a lot of names to go through and a lot of decisions to make. I am not sure I trust Ballard again to get this all right, but that is the reality of what we are dealing with. If he doesn't get it right this time it might be his last chance with the Colts.

[philba101]

11 hours ago, Smoke317 said:

Bryce Young. Guy has lit it up wherever he’s played; whatever the level of competition. Transferred into national power house Mater Dei and immediately lit up the top high school athletes in California. Won national championships. Went to national powerhouse Alabama.  Sat and learned under Saban and when his time came, he again lit up the top athletes this time in the SEC.

If not for losing both his top receivers, he beats Georgia (again) and is national champion on top of his Heisman.  Played this past year with young inexperienced receivers and still tore up the SEC.  Guy is just an amazing QB & football player. The Steph Curry of the NFL.  Right in time to enter the league as Brady retires.
 

He’s been a phenomenon for years. Don’t overthink it. He’s the next in the line of Peyton, Luck, & Lawrence.  It’s already been written. Trade up for him and let’s takeover the league. 

From what I have seen on film from him so far he is quite dynamic. I was impressed with his ability to push the ball down the field and into narrow windows. His passing skills and accuracy when he is on the move is spectacular. My only fear is will his smaller stature and frame hold up under NFL pressure if he get hit on the move? As you have stated, he has been successful on every level. I hope he is able to continue that success in the NFL.

[Myles]

Jimmy Garoppolo.   He's not old.  Career 67.6 completions and a 99.6 passer rating.

[coltsva]

On 1/31/2023 at 4:31 PM, Indeee said:

Drake Maye NC

 

I would literally trade our 4th this year, and our 2024 2nd to Chicago along with Pittman for their 1st this year and their 3rd next year. 

 

Then I would trade the 1st to Atl for their 8th this year and 1st in 2024 and either their 2nd in 2024 or their 1st in 2025.

 

I then send the 8th and Ryan Kelly to Carolina for the 9th this year and Carolinas 1st next year.

 

Then I send the 9th overall to Wash for their 16th and their 2024 1st.

 

Then at 16 I would take either Quenton Johnson or Zay Flowers. 

 

In 2024, I take Maye, Harrison Jr., and Bowers all in the 1st by using picks and futures and we are set. Using our top 

 

I would play Sammy all year with Mike Glennon backing him up. 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll take Kevin Costner movies for $2000, Alex.

[coltsva]

47 minutes ago, Myles said:

Jimmy Garoppolo.   He's not old.  Career 67.6 completions and a 99.6 passer rating.

I like Jimmy G too, but which QB will play the other 8 games?  

[philba101]

55 minutes ago, Myles said:

Jimmy Garoppolo.   He's not old.  Career 67.6 completions and a 99.6 passer rating.

There is a case to be made for this especially if the Colts feel that the young QB they draft needs time to develop before taking the reins as QB. The downside of course would be that we are spending additional salary cap money on a FA Quarterback instead of other needs.

[Smoke317]

I was listening to Patrick Mahomes father giving an interview. He said that Mahomes sitting behind and learning how to be a pro from Alex Smith was a major factor in his quick adaptation to the NFL & his ability to hit the ground running. Might be an idea to get the right veteran QB to serve as a mentor. I’d like to bring back Brisset over a guy like Jameis.  Jacoby was top 10 in QBR. 

[richard pallo]

Jordan Love.  Unfortunately they are going to trade Rodgers so that’s not happening.

[NewColtsFan]

20 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

I was listening to Patrick Mahomes father giving an interview. He said that Mahomes sitting behind and learning how to be a pro from Alex Smith was a major factor in his quick adaptation to the NFL & his ability to hit the ground running. Might be an idea to get the right veteran QB to serve as a mentor. I’d like to bring back Brisset over a guy like Jameis.  Jacoby was top 10 in QBR. 

Thank you.   I hope your post is read by @Restinpeacesweetchloe for her consideration. 

[jonjon]

Peyton Manning.

 

OK not really but you have to admit it would be a hilarious headline. In your face Brady*, you're not the only one who can pull this carp! I'm gunnin for five more SB wins!

[Patrick Miller]

Carr will be cut by the raiders soon. The colts should sign him. Then in the draft move back a bit and pick up more draft picks. We Can get a qb in the second or third round to sit behind carr for a couple of seasons.

[philba101]

14 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Jordan Love.  Unfortunately they are going to trade Rodgers so that’s not happening.

We will see. Rodgers always likes to play these off-season games with the media. He used it last year to get his big pay raise. I think he would prefer to stay in GB but if they are ready to move on from him than all bets are off. Either way the Packers need to play Love or trade him as this is the final year of his rookie contract. He was a first rounder so I guess they can franchise tag him after that if needed.