Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

[CR91]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

I have no idea why we want Bryce Young to be 210lbs at 5'10" slim frame? Do we want him to lose any athleticism and movement ability he has? 

 

Surviving hits in the NFL matters more. Gaining 10-15 pounds isn't sacrificing a lot of athleticism 

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1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

Surviving hits in the NFL matters more. Gaining 10-15 pounds isn't sacrificing a lot of athleticism 

It's not 10-15. It would be about 25-30 from his playing weight(i.e. from what we've seen him play at and at what we've seen his athleticism) 

[CR91]

Just now, stitches said:

It's not 10-15. It would be about 25-30 from his playing weight(i.e. from what we've seen him play at and at what we've seen his athleticism) 

 

He was listed as 194 pounds

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Just now, CR91 said:

 

He was listed as 194 pounds

And he was listed at 6'0" and measured 2 inches shorter. I legit wonder if he was playing at above 180 in Alabama. 

[CR91]

Just now, stitches said:

And he was listed at 6'0" and measured 2 inches shorter. I legit wonder if he was playing at above 180 in Alabama. 

 

No one is gaining 30 pounds in such a short time unless you think the NFL is lying about him being 204 pounds

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Surviving hits in the NFL matters more. Gaining 10-15 pounds isn't sacrificing a lot of athleticism 

Look, I understand you like Young but you can't ignore the fact he is a small player amongst huge men. If you can't accept that there is concern about his lack of size I don't know what to tell you.  

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4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

No one is gaining 30 pounds in such a short time unless you think the NFL is lying about him being 204 pounds

They are not lying he measured at 204. Now how much water he chugged in the morning before the measurement is a different question. No way in hell his playing weight is 204. They should measure him at his pro-day... something tells me they won't... and we definitely should measure him when he comes for his top 30 visit at Colts facility. 

[CR91]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

Look, I understand you like Young but you can't ignore the fact he is a small player amongst huge men. If you can't accept that there is concern about his lack of size I don't know what to tell you.  

 

I do like him because if he was 6 3 220, he'd be the consensus number one pick.

[CR91]

Just now, stitches said:

They are not lying he measured at 204. Now how much water he chugged in the morning before the measurement is a different question. No way in hell his playing weight is 204. They should measure him at his pro-bowl... something tells me they won't... and we definitely should measure him when he comes for his top 30 visit at Colts facility. 

 

I'm sure he drank a crap ton of water, but teams are gonna want him at 200+. You just can't play QB at less then that.

[richard pallo]

6 minutes ago, stitches said:

I have no idea why we want Bryce Young to be 210lbs at 5'10" slim frame? Do we want him to lose any athleticism and movement ability he has? And before you guys say Kyler Murray or Russell Wilson, both of them were twitched up freaky athletes at the position. Young is not that. 

Does anyone remember Don Nottingham aka the human bowling ball?  Former Baltimore Colt running back.  He was 5’10” 210 lbs.  So now in the modern era that’s what we want our quarterback to measure up to.  Not me.  I have a problem with that.

[crazycolt1]

Just now, CR91 said:

 

I do like him because if he was 6 3 220, he'd be the consensus number one pick.

But he is not 6'3" 229 lbs. 

 

[CR91]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

But he is not 6'3" 229 lbs. 

 

 

And I just gave you four different QBs that made it work. Size isn't everything. Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweler, and Jamarcus Russell were massive and couldn't play to save their lives. Even Tua isn't that big and was playing great before he got hurt.

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

And I just gave you four different QBs that made it work. Size isn't everything. Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweler, and Jamarcus Russell were massive and couldn't play to save their lives. Even Tua isn't that big and was playing great before he got hurt.

That’s why AR makes me nervous.  A quarterback at each extreme.  Give me the two in the middle given a choice.

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

And I just gave you four different QBs that made it work. Size isn't everything. Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweler, and Jamarcus Russell were massive and couldn't play to save their lives. Even Tua isn't that big and was playing great before he got hurt.

Now you are just being argumentative. It doesn't change the fact that he is a small man in a large man's world. That is concerning no matter how much you want to argue about it.  

[CR91]

6 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Now you are just being argumentative. It doesn't change the fact that he is a small man in a large man's world. That is concerning no matter how much you want to argue about it.  

 

Just leave it at that them, but Ill say this. If Bryce goes to the Texans, we better get Stroud to try and compete.

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

Just leave it at that them, but Ill say this. If Bryce goes to the Texans, we better get Stroud to try and compete.

Personally I think they should go after Stroud regardless of where Young goes.  

[CR91]

8 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Personally I think they should go after Stroud regardless of where Young goes.  

 

I honestly don't think you can go wrong either way, but have to trade up to atleast 2 if the Texans get the first pick.

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

I honestly don't think you can go wrong either way, but have to trade up to atleast 2 if the Texans get the first pick.

As much as I want Stroud, I don't want to gamble the the draft capital that the Bears are reporting they want. 

[CR91]

3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

As much as I want Stroud, I don't want to gamble the the draft capital that the Bears are reporting they want. 

 

It's two spots. Not exactly a large jump to be asking for a crap ton.

[Blueblood23]

On 3/4/2023 at 1:29 PM, CR91 said:

 

I do like him because if he was 6 3 220, he'd be the consensus number one pick.

There’s not much difference in Young or Bennett. Both are about the same size and both had similar stats in the SEC.

[CR91]

5 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

There’s not much difference in Young or Bennett. Both are about the same size and both had similar stats in the SEC.

 

One is older then the majority of starting QBs in the playoffs this year

[Blueblood23]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

One is older then the majority of starting QBs in the playoffs this year

That’s about it. Here are the comparisons.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4259553/stetson-bennett

 

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4685720/bryce-young

 

 

 

 

[CR91]

24 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

That’s about it. Here are the comparisons.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4259553/stetson-bennett

 

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4685720/bryce-young

 

 

 

 

 

You're not convincing anyone to gamble on a 25 year old rookie QB. There's a reason scouts have him as a day three pick 

[Dingus McGirt]

On 3/4/2023 at 2:29 PM, CR91 said:

 

I do like him because if he was 6 3 220, he'd be the consensus number one pick.

But..:

[FalseStart]

Is Ballard okay with a QB his size getting hurt every year… out for multiple games every year…  As a HS QB his size…his size is a major red flag for me. That being said, he is a baller.

 

1. Stroud

2. Young

3. Richardson 

[CR91]

12 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

But..:

 

But nothing. Bryce is gonna be a star in this league. I can see him as the next Drew Brees with more athletism

[Blueblood23]

53 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

You're not convincing anyone to gamble on a 25 year old rookie QB. There's a reason scouts have him as a day three pick 

Scouts miss badly on quarterbacks every draft. In fact Bennett probably runs faster than Young. I just don’t see Young as all that. 

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

Scouts miss badly on quarterbacks every draft. In fact Bennett probably runs faster than Young. I just don’t see Young as all that. 

 

Are you a bulldog fan?

[Blueblood23]

2 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Are you a bulldog fan?

Not at all, just like to see highly competitive games. 

[CR91]

13 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

Not at all, just like to see highly competitive games. 

 

I honestly think he goes undrafted. He might be a good backup to Jalen.

[Dingus McGirt]

4 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

But nothing. Bryce is gonna be a star in this league. I can see him as the next Drew Brees with more athletism

But, he isn’t 6’3” and 220.

[Blueblood23]

3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

I honestly think he goes undrafted. He might be a good backup to Jalen.

You may be right, but I think he gets drafted. Again there’s not a lot of difference in Young versus Bennett. Bennett will be a surprise depending on what team he goes to. No joke, I would take him over Young. Both of these guys are winners. 

[CR91]

3 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:

But, he isn’t 6’3” and 220.

 

And personally, I don't think that matters. The way the NFL currently is in terms of safety when it comes to QBs, your QB doesn't need to 6 4 240. 

[esmort]

13 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

And personally, I don't think that matters. The way the NFL currently is in terms of safety when it comes to QBs, your QB doesn't need to 6 4 240. 

 

Maybe doesnt have to be that big. But there's a big difference between 6'4 240 and 5'10" sub 200.  Splitting the difference at 6'1" 215-220 just barely gets him there.

[Dingus McGirt]

14 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

And personally, I don't think that matters. The way the NFL currently is in terms of safety when it comes to QBs, your QB doesn't need to 6 4 240. 

Likely true.  We’ll see.

[Colts.sb41]

I just don’t think there is any way Ballard drafts Young. It would go against everything he has done up to this point. I’m strictly basing this on his size and Ballard loves big athletes. He said he prioritizes accuracy which tells me the Colts are deciding between Stroud and Levis. 

[Colts.sb41]

To add to my post I also think Hooker might be a real option depending on what the Colts think of his age and injury.

[Moosejawcolt]

On 3/4/2023 at 12:35 PM, CR91 said:

 

With offenses majority in shotgun, height really doesn't matter. Getting over 200 pounds was the most important thing. If he can get to 210 by his pro day, he's a lock for the first pick imo

U have to remember this is fake weight. He will fall back to his normal weight as the season and that could be 185-190. Who knows but he is small. I don't think he is a Ballard pick at all.  I   think the GMs are looking st this draft as kind of underwhelming and I think 3 years from now, we won't see a lot of all pro caliber players.  

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