HC Search Discussion Thread

[dw49]

28 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

 

We're losing Scottie Montgomery. Maybe his contract was expired? Or maybe this is a signal we're hiring an offensive minded HC who will have autonomy over that side of the ball? I think probably Scottie's contract was up... I like him, he would have been one of the coaches I wanted to stay.

 

I agree it's going to be Callahan or Steichen.  I'll guess it's going to be the latter, 

[#12.]

7 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

He has also made comments that lead me to think he does at least have a preference.  Doenst mean he would never bend under any circumstance but personally i do think it matters

 

There is logic to back the indoor thing, plus we already have 4-3 guys signed and no 3-4 rush line backer which is the most expensive position on the defense 

 

A 3-4 wouldnt be ideal for Shag Leonards skill set and he has a big contract already

 

Well, with the Leo position, this defense is already a hybrid.  Pete Carrol always described this defense as a 4-3 with 3-4 personnel.

 

Teams are playing the pass in 2023, so I don't think it matters much today, generally speaking.  Morris or Martindale could come in and fuse their ideas with what Bradley is doing - spice it up a bit.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

This coaching search is kind of boring. Wish they would hurry up.

[CR91]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This coaching search is kind of boring. Wish they would hurry up.

 

Its gotta be Steichen. Why else not announce it?

[dw49]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Its gotta be Steichen. Why else not announce it?

 

That's my feeling , but could be that they really haven't decided yet.

[Superman]

6 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Its gotta be Steichen. Why else not announce it?

 

I think the hay is just barely in the barn at this point, and that's assuming they aren't still considering Bieniemy. They went to Philly on Saturday to meet with Steichen, let's assume they flew back yesterday, and today and tomorrow they're discussing the 2nd round candidates. If it was Callahan or Morris, and they start negotiations over the next day or two, then we'd still be looking at a finalized contract later this week.

 

If it's Steichen, they'd have to reach a preliminary agreement by today, because there's another blackout period starting tomorrow. Still can't finalize a contract until after the SB.

 

If they're still considering Bieniemy, who has not been reported as a 2nd interview candidate so far, then they'd have to wait until after the SB to talk to him again.

 

If it's anyone else who has been in the 2nd round of interviews, they could finalize the hire this week. But I think after going to Philly on Saturday, today would be the absolute earliest, and that's probably ambitious. If we don't have something bubbling up by Wednesday, I think that probably means Steichen is the guy. 

[danlhart87]

I would be so happy with Steichen 

 

[Superman]

39 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Well ….   Damn!    
 

I was hoping to avoid this.   But in the scenario and circumstance the Colts are in I guess it couldn't be helped.    I suspect losing coaches the Colts were hoping to keep is going to happen a few times more in the next 10 days or so.     

 

Yeah I don't like it for several reasons. It's not like he's irreplaceable, but it would be good to keep an assistant who's been coaching one of our most productive positions. And I felt like he could have been a pipeline candidate, where a couple years down the line he's getting HC consideration.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

One thing I am really excited for at the introductory  press conference is what the new coach likes in a new QB. What are the traits he wants.

[BlackTiger]

45 minutes ago, #12. said:

Pete Carrol always described this defense as a 4-3 with 3-4 personnel.

I dont agree that is true for this colts roster.  We dont have a 3-4 rush line backer and thats one of the most important and most expensive spots.

 

Shaq Leonard wouldnt be a great fit and he is our highest paid defender.  He could probably play ILB but its not the best use of his skill set and we didnt pay him that much to miscast him.

 

Theres probably several that could overlap but we are missing a big piece and have a highly paid bad fit

 

 

[1959Colts]

7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

... If we don't have something bubbling up by Wednesday, I think that probably means Steichen is the guy. 

But if there is nothing by Wednesday, wouldn't Bieniemy also be a possibility?

[NewColtsFan]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

One thing I am really excited for at the introductory  press conference is what the new coach likes in a new QB. What are the traits he wants.

When the press conference happens, don’t be surprised or disappointed if the new HC is not very candid about the qualities in a QB he likes.   Don’t want that info getting public.   Might tip his hand over which QB he prefers.   And nobody wants that.   He is more likely to talk about the traits he wants the night of the draft AFTER he’s made his pick. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

When the press conference happens, don’t be surprised or disappointed if the new HC is not very candid about the qualities in a QB he likes.   Don’t want that info getting public.   Might tip his hand over which QB he prefers.   And nobody wants that.   He is more likely to talk about the traits he wants the night of the draft AFTER he’s made his pick. 

I have found most of the times they will talk about what they like in a QB without giving to much away. Reich did with Carolina. Just vague things like toughness ect. Especially if it Callahan or Steichen.

[buccolts]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

When the press conference happens, don’t be surprised or disappointed if the new HC is not very candid about the qualities in a QB he likes.   Don’t want that info getting public.   Might tip his hand over which QB he prefers.   And nobody wants that.   He is more likely to talk about the traits he wants the night of the draft AFTER he’s made his pick. 

Besides, Wink may not have a QB preference, and defer to whatever OC he bring in.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So far haven’t heard about third round of interviews so that’s good. I imagine if it’s Steichen his agent wouldn’t want that out either with the SB coming up so he will probably not leak anything.

1 minute ago, buccolts said:

Besides, Wink may not have a QB preference, and defer to whatever OC he bring in.

Yeah I don’t know how the defensive guys would approach it. They might lean on Ballard more.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Fake account 

[t-rex]

If it was Steichen wouldn't we hear that other candidates were no longer in contention?

 

For instance on the Rams' sites, they are still waiting to see if they need a new DC or not.

 

The Lions DC already knows he won't be a part of the Cardinals plan. No word yet on the Colts. Same for Callahan.

 

I think the Colts haven't made a decision yet.

[BlackTiger]

33 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This coaching search is kind of boring

 

I tend to agree, we didnt bring in a single big name with head coaching experience that Im really fired up about.  The leading candidates seem to be DCs, Id rather see an offensive coach.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Here we go.

 

 

That is fake sorry 

[buccolts]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

So far haven’t heard about third round of interviews so that’s good. I imagine if it’s Steichen his agent wouldn’t want that out either with the SB coming up so he will probably not leak anything.

Yeah I don’t know how the defensive guys would approach it. They might lean on Ballard more.

I'd actually rather any of them defer to the incoming OC hire, then offer preferences to the OC.

Even with Steichen or Callahan, I'd want a bit of a distancing.

[csmopar]

3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

No. I meant Peyton Manning

I’m confused. The topic was coach’s under 50 in the Super Bowl…

[t-rex]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That is fake sorry 

 

No worries. We are all here doing the best we can to get information.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, buccolts said:

I'd actually rather any of them defer to the incoming OC hire, then offer preferences to the OC.

Even with Steichen or Callahan, I'd want a bit of a distancing.

Yeah that would make sense. 

[csmopar]

3 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It’s interesting Colts blocked Bradley from talking with other teams. Also mentioned in the Breer story the Ballard connections with the Callahan family.

 

 

They can only block him for lateral position interviews. 

[t-rex]

4 minutes ago, csmopar said:

They can only block him for lateral position interviews. 

Yes. But they are blocking him during a time when other DC positions are being filled.

 

He must be a part of the new coaching package. I hope they wouldn't block him, only to have a new head coach fire him 2 weeks from now.

 

I think Jason Spears is right. The Colts are mandating that Gus stay regardless of the coach.

[buccolts]

1 minute ago, t-rex said:

Yes. But they are blocking him during a time when other DC positions are being filled.

 

He must be a part of the new coaching package. I hope they wouldn't block him, only to have a new head coach fire him 2 weeks from now.

 

I think Jason Spears is right. The Colts are mandating that Gus stay regardless of the coach.

Perhaps, but if true, you'd think those were weeded out phase 1.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, t-rex said:

Yes. But they are blocking him during a time when other DC positions are being filled.

 

He must be a part of the new coaching package. I hope they wouldn't block him, only to have a new head coach fire him 2 weeks from now.

 

I think Jason Spears is right. The Colts are mandating that Gus stay regardless of the coach.

They aren’t going to force anything but I can see them asking a new HC to keep them.  It would probably be good for a new HC to keep the defensive  staff so there isn’t so much change. If things don’t go well those defensive changes can happen in year two when the HC is more settled in.

[JColts72]

18 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That is fake sorry 

If only true.

[John Waylon]

Blocking the DC from leaving is a weird flex if we’re hiring Matindale as Vegas indicates. 
 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

It is crazy it’s this late in the afternoon and we have no leaks.

[CR91]

16 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I’m confused. The topic was coach’s under 50 in the Super Bowl…

 

Yes and my point is Peyton was the driving force for those Broncos team early on. Not the coaches.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, John Waylon said:

Blocking the DC from leaving is a weird flex if we’re hiring Matindale as Vegas indicates. 
 

They can only block him for interviewing as DC. I think that says that most of the candidates are ok with keeping him.

[JColts72]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It is crazy it’s this late in the afternoon and we have no leaks.

Probably zip rest of the week.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

The Colts must be locked in a super secret bunker with no communication.

[danlhart87]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

The Colts must be locked in a super secret bunker with no communication.

1 week later

 

Chloe questioned by police for hiding entire Colts staff in bunker 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

You can all back off the F5 key and go do something else, nothing is happening today…

[Superman]

48 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Blocking the DC from leaving is a weird flex if we’re hiring Matindale as Vegas indicates. 
 

 

Is there a real sportsbook showing Martindale as the favorite? Or just one random site saying so?

 

11 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

You can all back off the F5 key and go do something else, nothing is happening today…

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[ADnum1]

Yes but its bad to block Gus since if the new coach fires him, all other DC positions will be filled.

 

He would be out of work for 2023