Call Carolina to Trade

[Mr.Debonair]

See if you can get a DJ Moore or Brian Burns. I think it would be foolish not to reach out to Carolina and see if they potentially interested in moving some guys on their current roster. I know DJ Moore just got a new contract so he may be a little more difficult to swing 

[Goatface Killah]

I would go for someone like Brady Christensen in an attempt to shore up the OL.

[chad72]

7 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

I would go for someone like Brady Christensen in an attempt to shore up the OL.

 

 

Here’s a speculative funny tweet.  

 

I’ll be curious to see what CMC fetches and D J Moore fetches. I’m thinking a combination of picks for CMC like a high 2nd and high 4th, and possibly a 3rd and 5th for DJ Moore IF the receiving team pays for the entire contract. 

 

If the Panthers are eating more of it, I can see a high 2nd and high 3rd for CMC, and a 3rd and 4th for D J Moore.

 

I do agree with us going for OL or WR at best.

[Goatface Killah]

6 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

 

I’ll be curious to see what CMC fetches and D J Moore fetches. I’m thinking a combination of picks for CMC like a high 2nd and high 4th, and possibly a 3rd and 5th for DJ Moore IF the receiving team pays for the entire contract. 

 

If the Panthers are eating more of it, I can see a high 2nd and high 3rd for CMC, and a 3rd and 4th for D J Moore.

I would love DJ Moore, but he would be like a 40m dead cap hit for them so it just isnt gonna happen.

 

 

[Goatface Killah]

6 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

 

Here’s a speculative funny tweet.  

 

I’ll be curious to see what CMC fetches and D J Moore fetches. I’m thinking a combination of picks for CMC like a high 2nd and high 4th, and possibly a 3rd and 5th for DJ Moore IF the receiving team pays for the entire contract. 

 

If the Panthers are eating more of it, I can see a high 2nd and high 3rd for CMC, and a 3rd and 4th for D J Moore.

 

I do agree with us going for OL or WR at best.

Baker does do pretty good commercials and I think everybody is tired of "WE HAVE THE MEATS!!!!!"

 

Not a bad deal for Arbys depending on the compensation involved.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I don't think any 'one' player will turn this.offense around. We need better play/players at at least 3 positions, LT, QB, Elite type WR opposite of Pittman..and that's not counting of course a legitimate playcaller..

 

Lets go with what we have AND save our picks for  a QB in the Draft.

[sb41champs]

FOUR WORDS:

 

Draft capital (which Ballard HATES to part with)

 

Salary cap (which Ballard manages very well)

[richard pallo]

5 minutes ago, sb41champs said:

FOUR WORDS:

 

Draft capital (which Ballard HATES to part with)

 

Salary cap (which Ballard manages very well)

Hates?  Ballard has parted with draft capital every year he has been GM.  He will do it again if he thinks he can improve the team. 

[MPStack]

21 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Hates?  Ballard has parted with draft capital every year he has been GM.  He will do it again if he thinks he can improve the team. 

His track record speaks “conservative,” involving trades. The Carolina players listed, have significant contracts, which is not in the cards with Ballard. Do any of those salary dumps, drastically improve the Colts?  I would say extremely doubtful and wouldn’t touch them. Save the ammo for next years draft. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, MPStack said:

His track record speaks “conservative,” involving trades. The Carolina players listed, have significant contracts, which is not in the cards with Ballard. Do any of those salary dumps, drastically improve the Colts?  I would say extremely doubtful and wouldn’t touch them. Save the ammo for next years draft. 

I think trading our 1st pick for Buckner and then extending him takes care of the conservative description.  Not to mention trading up to get Taylor and Cross this year.  Circumstances will dictate what he does at the deadline.  You can’t tell me Irsay has already bagged the season and is looking to next year.  You can bet he doesn’t want his GM or coach managing the team that way as well.  A lot depends on how the next three games play out.  Too early to know for sure what he will do.  The games need to be played.

[GoColts8818]

16 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think trading our 1st pick for Buckner and then extending him takes care of the conservative description.  Not to mention trading up to get Taylor and Cross this year.  Circumstances will dictate what he does at the deadline.  You can’t tell me Irsay has already bagged the season and is looking to next year.  You can bet he doesn’t want his GM or coach managing the team that way as well.  A lot depends on how the next three games play out.  Too early to know for sure what he will do.  The games need to be played.

And trading a first for Wentz.  I get it that trade didn’t work out but it still happened.  Ballard is willing to make a big trade if he thinks it’s right.

[MPStack]

2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

I think trading our 1st pick for Buckner and then extending him takes care of the conservative description.  

Actually trading for Buckner when a highly touted Kinlaw (3T) was available with the 13th pick only confirms that Ballard is conservative. He was getting a known and proven talent that the 49ers could not afford to resign with an already stacked DL. Try again. lol

 

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

And trading a first for Wentz.  I get it that trade didn’t work out but it still happened.  Ballard is willing to make a big trade if he thinks it’s right.

You think that was a big trade? It was a much cheaper route with a player who was in the MVP conversation the year the Eagles won the SB. It was very conservative. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, MPStack said:

Actually trading for Buckner when a highly touted Kinlaw (3T) was available with the 13th pick only confirms that Ballard is conservative. He was getting a known and proven talent that the 49ers could not afford to resign with an already stacked DL. Try again. lol

 

You think that was a big trade? It was a much cheaper route with a player who was in the MVP conversation the year the Eagles won the SB. It was very conservative. 

Ballard was being aggressive and traded the 13th pick in the draft to acquire the best 3T in the league at time.  They 49’ers used the pick on his replacement , Kinlaw, who is a bust.  A smart and aggressive move by Ballard as Buckner remains one of the best 3T’s in the league.   You lose.  Lol 

[MPStack]

Just now, richard pallo said:

Ballard was being aggressive and traded the 13th pick in the draft to acquire the best 3T in the league at time.  They 49’ers used the pick on his replacement , Kinlaw, who is a bust.  A smart and aggressive move by Ballard as Buckner remains one of the best 3T’s in the league.   You lose.  Lol 

That wasn’t an aggressive move in getting a known and established player with a resume. It was a safer bet than drafting a player at 13. lol

 

You think Ballard is aggressive? The national media is saying the opposite.

 

 

[MPStack]

https://www.stampedeblue.com/platform/amp/2022/10/4/23386802/colts-news-chris-ballards-conservative-approach-has-doomed-colts-to-mediocrity

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, MPStack said:

https://www.stampedeblue.com/platform/amp/2022/10/4/23386802/colts-news-chris-ballards-conservative-approach-has-doomed-colts-to-mediocrity

That’s not national media in fact that’s not even media.  That’s a fan boy sight that pretends to be media.

[MPStack]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

That’s not national media in fact that’s not even media.  That’s a fan boy sight that pretends to be media.

SI and several other NM sites said the same. I dig them up for you to laugh at. 

[GoColts8818]

7 minutes ago, MPStack said:

SI and several other NM sites said the same. I dig them up for you to laugh at. 

Boo hoo someone didn’t agree with you on a forum.

 

Also, I laughed at you dismissing two big trades just because they don’t support your narrative.  I think even most who feel Ballard is conservative would tell you trading for Wentz and Buckner were not conservative moves.  

[throwing BBZ]

1 hour ago, MPStack said:

Actually trading for Buckner when a highly touted Kinlaw (3T) was available with the 13th pick only confirms that Ballard is conservative. He was getting a known and proven talent that the 49ers could not afford to resign with an already stacked DL. Try again. lol

 

You think that was a big trade? It was a much cheaper route with a player who was in the MVP conversation the year the Eagles won the SB. It was very conservative. 

 

  Such odd posts. Bass ackwards from reason and reality.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, throwing BBZ said:

 

  Such odd posts. Bass ackwards from reason and reality.

Some people just can’t be wrong or handle people disagreeing with them because they have to be the smartest person in the room.  

[NewColtsFan]

5 hours ago, MPStack said:

That wasn’t an aggressive move in getting a known and established player with a resume. It was a safer bet than drafting a player at 13. lol

 

You think Ballard is aggressive? The national media is saying the opposite.

 

 

First…,    Stampede Blue is hardly national media.   They’re a local group of people.   And try as they might, they pretty much do one thing well….   Their Build a Ballard series of draft profiles.    Otherwise, I don’t think they bring much.   But I’m only a media guy. 
 

Second,  Kinlaw had a bad knee in college.   That surfaced after the combine.   And, as far as I know, his knee has been his number one issue as a pro.   He has yet to have a good season.  
 

Fir the life of me, who makes an argument after the fact, knowing what we know, that Kinlaw was the right choice all along over  Buckner?    I mean who does that?

 

A Ballard hater.   Of which you are open and honest and proud of that!   Congrats!   You must be enjoying this season sooo much! 

[MPStack]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

First…,    Stampede Bkye is hardly national media.   They’re a local group of people.   And try as they might, they pretty much do one thing well….   They’re Build a Ballard series of draft profiles.    Otherwise, I don’t think they bring much.   But I’m only a media guy. 
 

Second,  Kinlaw had a bad knee in college.   That surfaced after the combine.   And, as far as I know, his knee has been his number one issue.   He has yet to have a good season.  
 

Fir the life of me, who makes an argument after the fact, knowing what we know, that Kinlaw was the right choice all along over  Buckner?    I mean who does that?

 

A Ballard hater.   Of which you are open and honest and proud of that!   Congrats!

You must be enjoying this season sooo much! 

[bestQBever]

I dont want to trade for anyone unless it's a Tackle

[Coltsbluefan]

McCaffrey is now a 49er,Panthers are getting rid of everyone 

[chad72]

On 10/11/2022 at 9:24 AM, chad72 said:

 I can see a high 2nd and high 3rd for CMC

The 4th and 5th rounders were gravy but just like I anticipated, the trading team, 49ers, weren’t going to give up a 1st rounder.

[jvan1973]

On 10/15/2022 at 7:00 PM, MPStack said:

That wasn’t an aggressive move in getting a known and established player with a resume. It was a safer bet than drafting a player at 13. lol

 

You think Ballard is aggressive? The national media is saying the opposite.

 

 

Ballard obviously didn't think Kinlaw was as good as Buckner.  Turns out he was right.   I'm sure the 49ers would rather have Buckner back

[chad72]

On 10/16/2022 at 12:09 AM, MPStack said:

 

Loved that movie. Just re-watched it with my high school age daughter and wife. Man, movie ratings are weird from years ago.

 

What used to be PG-13 is now PG and TV-14 is pretty close to rated R from years past. 

[MPStack]

3 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

Ballard obviously didn't think Kinlaw was as good as Buckner.  Turns out he was right.   I'm sure the 49ers would rather have Buckner back

Where does the Niners defense currently rank? He was traded because they couldn’t afford to resign him and were already strong on the DL. Which you and others ignore. Thanks for playing. 

[jvan1973]

5 hours ago, MPStack said:

Where does the Niners defense currently rank? He was traded because they couldn’t afford to resign him and were already strong on the DL. Which you and others ignore. Thanks for playing. 

Kinlaw hasn't been good Buckner has.    Using the 13th pick on him would have been a mistake.   Thanks for playing

[MPStack]

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

Kinlaw hasn't been good Buckner has.    Using the 13th pick on him would have been a mistake.   Thanks for playing

If, you actually followed the discussion, the point with Buckner was folks said, it was an aggressive move by Ballard, not who’s better, Kinlaw or Bunkner.  Thanks for playing. 

[jvan1973]

48 minutes ago, MPStack said:

If, you actually followed the discussion, the point with Buckner was folks said, it was an aggressive move by Ballard, not who’s better, Kinlaw or Bunkner.  Thanks for playing. 

But taking kinlaw would have failed.   So aggressive or not, it was the correct move.    

[MPStack]

9 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

But taking kinlaw would have failed.   So aggressive or not, it was the correct move.    

 

Listen, my argument was Ballard was not aggressive, but conservative. Somewhere in the conversation someone said, the Bunkner trade was an aggressive move, which I strongly disagree with.

 Getting a known and established player for the 13th pick any GM would most likely take. No study or evaluation needed, no potential for selected a bust at 13. Conservative and safe!
 

 

Also, I stated that the reason the 49ers traded Bunkner, is they couldn’t afford to resign him. 100% fact. So, it’s really ignorant by some here that say, I bet the Niners wish they’d kept Buckner. 
 

Apparently, they’re pretty good without him, ranked #1 defensively.
 

 

[gspdx]

Maybe they need an aging, injured, benched QB?

[r a y s k i]

People still think the nfl gming is like playing madden lol

[ColtJax]

First, the Panthers are said to have turned down 2 1st round picks for Burns, so that's a no go. Next, if we need any improvement right away, it's with the OL. We can't run or pass, they went from a strength to a horrible weakness. Look at Danny Pinter, who went from a real good prospect to a turnstile. Hate to say it, but we need a new OL coach more than anything.