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All good stuff in your post there. Without cherry picking contracts, can you list two or three veteran comps for Pittman? -
How many PEDs are on the "banned" list? -
Do you agree that yards/catch (and even yards/target) is a stat that should be accompanied by a lot of context? For example, what's the difference between MPJ's stats in 2021 vs 2023? Isn't it the state of the offense, and the quality of the QBing? Speaking of context, to the red bolded, Pittman is #2 in total targets, #5 in target share, and #83 in average target distance (all per playerprofiler). Doesn't that speak to his usage and role in a limited passing offense? Wherever you land on any of that, what I think is important is to determine whether Pittman's production (total, and average) speaks more to the circumstances, or to his ability. And I think there's a lot of grey area in there, but the "really BAD" number you're hanging on to speaks more to the circumstances, IMO.
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First off, my opinon of Pittman is based on what we have seen from him so far and I recognize he hasn't had stable QB play or even good QB play for most of his career. That said there are just several stats that stick out as non-WR1 stats (or whatever we should call it). I mean, Pittman's call sign is a hitch route short of the sticks. That's not really a big boy play in my opinion even if Pittman gets good mileage out of it. Pittman's ADOT (Average depth of target) is 8.1 this season - his career average is 8.6. It's also something as simple as TDs. Pittman has 15 TOTAL in his career (4 this season). That doesn't really mark him out as a huge threat. Then there's something like his ability to create from nothing. Pittman has forced 4 missed tackles this season. 24 Total in his career. He gets the ball, then runs in free space and gets tackled. He doesn't make defenders miss. Seasonal ADOT, TDs and Missed tackles forced for a bunch of other guys this season: Stephon Diggs: ADOT 10.3 -- TDs 8 -- MTF 19 DJ Moore: ADOT 11.8 -- TDs 6 -- MTF 15 Ja'Marr Chase: ADOT 9.0 -- TDs 7 -- MTF 16 CeeDee Lamb: ADOT 11.1 -- TDs 7 -- MTF 13 Amon-Ra St. Brown: ADOT 6 -- TDs 7.9 -- MTF 11 Davante Adams: ADOT 11.8 -- TDs 4 -- MTF 5 Keenan Allen: ADOT 9.8 -- TDs 7 -- MTF 7 Puka Nacua: ADOT 9.5 -- TDs 4 -- MTF 8 AJ Brown: ADOT 12.4 -- TDs 7 -- MTF 17 DeVonta Smith: ADOT 12.6 -- TDs 6 -- MTF 6 Josh Downs: ADOT 7.3 -- TDs 2 -- MTF 6 Alec Pierce: ADOT 15.4 -- TDs 1 -- MTF 1 These are just guys I thought of and not picked for any specific reason. He's comparable to Nacua and Keenan Allen, but doesn't compare favorably to them. I'm not bashing Pittman here. I think he's a great player and I think he can be even better when supported by a guy who the defense need to allocate extra attention to. But we need a playmaker. The guy who can create when there's nothing to find. -
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