2022 PFF: Colts Defense (G2)

[EastStreet]

 

General Defense Comments

• Lawrence - new career high in completion %, QBR, and Passer Rating... Previous high (PR)... game vs Colts... lol...
• Minshew's rating is still better, LMAO... so sad...

General Group Comments

• DL - super duper meh!!! Defo graded well. Decent pressures though in general  (Ngakoue 3, Paye 2, Defo 2, and Stewart 2), just no sacks.. 
• LB -Speed less snaps this week, still best LB. Led team in TFLs... 
• CB - no snaps for Rodgers again. Facyson, little better. Moore again meh. Gilmore good. 
• S - Blackmon - bad again .. lol.. Cross was OK again before injury. McLeod mix... 

 

 

 

• LDE
  • Paye (2021 PFF 70-5 sacks)
    • Snaps% - 79/72/
    • PFF - 77-2/74/
    • Note -  still solid
  • Lewis (71-3)
    • Snaps% - 46/54/
    • PFF - 56/53/
  • Dayo (61-1)
    • Snaps% - 6/23/
    • PFF - 69/53/
    • Note - ouch
• 3T
  • Buckner (72-9)
    • Snaps% - 86/70/
    • PFF - 71/75/
    • Notes - no sacks, good general play
  • Cowart (NA)
    • Snaps% - 20/14/
    • PFF - 59/72/
    • Note - solid play
• NT
  • Stewart (73-1)
    • Snaps% - 56/68/
    • PFF - 70/82/
    • Note - great play
  • Johnson (rook)
    • Snaps% - 6/15/
    • PFF - 56/31/
    • Note - pushing too fast??? ouch... 
• RDE/LEO
  • Ngakoue (47-10)
    • Snaps% - 81/69/
    • PFF - 46/35/
    • Note:  Ouch, but most pressures on the team lol... 
  • Odenigbo (50-0)
    • Snaps% - 16/10/
    • PFF - 47/48/
  • Banogu (60-0)
    • Snaps% - 3/6/
    • PFF - 63/58/
• WLB
  • Okereke (59-2 INTs)
    • Snaps% - 100/93/
    • PFF - 66/75
    • Note - Good job!!!!
  • Speed (52)
    • Snaps% - 54/34/
    • PFF - 80/79/
    • Note - reward by reduced snaps?? lol. Still had most TFLs... 
  • Stuard - NA
• MLB
  • Leonard (79-4)
    • Snaps% - NA/NA/
    • PFF - NA/NA/
• SAM
  • Franklin (71-1)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 52/52/
  • Domann - NA
• CB1
  • Gilmore (77-2 INT)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 72/73/
    • Note - Good 2x... 
  • Rodgers (71-3)
    • Snaps% - NA/NA/
    • PFF - NA/NA/
    • Note - huh.... no snaps? Again... 
• CB2
  • Facyson (52-1)
    • Snaps% - 46/73/
    • PFF - 59/68/
    • Note - better!
  • Flowers (rook) - NA
• NB
  • Moore (67-4)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 45/52/
    • Note - little better grade, but not good... Again 0 PDs... 
• FS
  • Blackmon (61-0)
    • Snaps% - 100/86/
    • PFF - 37/53/
    • Note -still bad, allowed another TD. Credited a PD to him, but was dropped INT... huh lol. Has allowed 3TDs this year, worst PR, and 100% completion rate
  • Thomas - NA
• SS
  • Cross (rook)
    • Snaps% - 100/65/
    • PFF - 61/51/
    • Note - grade dropped... had as many T #s as Moore or Gilmore, and more Facyson. 
  • McLeod (64-2)
    • Snaps% - 3/49/
    • PFF - 60/46/
    • Note - ouch... lots of Ts though
  • Watts (80-0) - NA

 

 

Good: 70+ (bold blue)
Average: 55-69 (normal)
Bad: Less 55 (bold red)
 

 

FYI 

• Separated O and D (2 threads) this year. Too much (info/lines) last year.
• Snap %s and PFF grades are rounded (no XX.XX)
• Snaps - per game (%, not # snaps)
• PFF grade - not per game, current year's total grade
• Color/bold text (good vs bad, and range) changed - see bottom

[EastStreet]

Our new motto?

 

"Creating Pro Bowl QBs, just not ours"

[Maniac53]

Just now, EastStreet said:

 

General Defense Comments

• Lawrence - new career high in completion %, QBR, and Passer Rating... Previous high (PR)... game vs Colts... lol...
• Minshew's rating is still better, LMAO... so sad...

General Group Comments

• DL - super duper meh!!! Defo graded well. Decent pressures though in general  (Ngakoue 3, Paye 2, Defo 2, and Stewart 2), just no sacks.. 
• LB -Speed less snaps this week, still best LB. Led team in TFLs... 
• CB - no snaps for Rodgers again. Facyson, little better. Moore again meh. Gilmore good. 
• S - Blackmon - bad again .. lol.. Cross was OK again before injury. McLeod mix... 

 

 

 

• LDE
  • Paye (2021 PFF 70-5 sacks)
    • Snaps% - 79/72/
    • PFF - 77-2/74/
    • Note -  still solid
  • Lewis (71-3)
    • Snaps% - 46/54/
    • PFF - 56/53/
  • Dayo (61-1)
    • Snaps% - 6/23/
    • PFF - 69/53/
    • Note - ouch
• 3T
  • Buckner (72-9)
    • Snaps% - 86/70/
    • PFF - 71/75/
    • Notes - no sacks, good general play
  • Cowart (NA)
    • Snaps% - 20/14/
    • PFF - 59/72/
    • Note - solid play
• NT
  • Stewart (73-1)
    • Snaps% - 56/68/
    • PFF - 70/82/
    • Note - great play
  • Johnson (rook)
    • Snaps% - 6/15/
    • PFF - 56/31/
    • Note - pushing too fast??? ouch... 
• RDE/LEO
  • Ngakoue (47-10)
    • Snaps% - 81/69/
    • PFF - 46/35/
    • Note:  Ouch, but most pressures on the team lol... 
  • Odenigbo (50-0)
    • Snaps% - 16/10/
    • PFF - 47/48/
  • Banogu (60-0)
    • Snaps% - 3/6/
    • PFF - 63/58/
• WLB
  • Okereke (59-2 INTs)
    • Snaps% - 100/93/
    • PFF - 66/75
    • Note - Good job!!!!
  • Speed (52)
    • Snaps% - 54/34/
    • PFF - 80/79/
    • Note - reward by reduced snaps?? lol. Still had most TFLs... 
  • Stuard - NA
• MLB
  • Leonard (79-4)
    • Snaps% - NA/NA/
    • PFF - NA/NA/
• SAM
  • Franklin (71-1)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 52/52/
  • Domann - NA
• CB1
  • Gilmore (77-2 INT)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 72/73/
    • Note - Good 2x... 
  • Rodgers (71-3)
    • Snaps% - NA/NA/
    • PFF - NA/NA/
    • Note - huh.... no snaps? Again... 
• CB2
  • Facyson (52-1)
    • Snaps% - 46/73/
    • PFF - 59/68/
    • Note - better!
  • Flowers (rook) - NA
• NB
  • Moore (67-4)
    • Snaps% - 100/100/
    • PFF - 45/52/
    • Note - little better grade, but not good... Again 0 PDs... 
• FS
  • Blackmon (61-0)
    • Snaps% - 100/86/
    • PFF - 37/53/
    • Note -still bad, allowed another TD. Credited a PD to him, but was dropped INT... huh lol. Has allowed 3TDs this year, worst PR, and 100% completion rate
  • Thomas - NA
• SS
  • Cross (rook)
    • Snaps% - 100/65/
    • PFF - 61/51/
    • Note - grade dropped... had as many T #s as Moore or Gilmore, and more Facyson. 
  • McLeod (64-2)
    • Snaps% - 3/49/
    • PFF - 60/46/
    • Note - ouch... lots of Ts though
  • Watts (80-0) - NA

 

 

Good: 70+ (bold blue)
Average: 55-69 (normal)
Bad: Less 55 (bold red)
 

 

FYI 

• Separated O and D (2 threads) this year. Too much (info/lines) last year.
• Snap %s and PFF grades are rounded (no XX.XX)
• Snaps - per game (%, not # snaps)
• PFF grade - not per game, current year's total grade
• Color/bold text (good vs bad, and range) changed - see bottom

Can you make a stat on what other teams that are winning with money compared to this team?

 

Such what are the Dolphins spending on OL and DL or Bills compared to Colts?

 

I just find it hard watching so many NFL games where teams have so many open WRs and not very many known names on the OL and DL. Plus QBs that have so much time to throw.. Defenses that get pressure on QBs what is them teams spending for DL?

 

Not saying they aren't good just a lot of names heard of during draft.

 

If you don't have the time its cool. I'm just curious you find some good stat caparisoning in here. 

 

Please keep it up, I don't always agree with stat numbers but they also don't lie.

 

Thanks

[OLD FAN MAN]

6 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Our new motto?

 

"Creating Pro Bowl QBs, just not ours"

ballards pass rush makes another qb great

[EastStreet]

43 minutes ago, Maniac53 said:

Can you make a stat on what other teams that are winning with money compared to this team?

 

Such what are the Dolphins spending on OL and DL or Bills compared to Colts?

You'd need be more specific (how look?)

Not sure it would be a weekly thread though if I understand it... 

43 minutes ago, Maniac53 said:

 

I just find it hard watching so many NFL games where teams have so many open WRs and not very many known names on the OL and DL. Plus QBs that have so much time to throw.. Defenses that get pressure on QBs what is them teams spending for DL?

 

Not saying they aren't good just a lot of names heard of during draft.

 

If you don't have the time its cool. I'm just curious you find some good stat caparisoning in here. 

 

Please keep it up, I don't always agree with stat numbers but they also don't lie.

 

Thanks

 

So, question...

We have 2 WRs graded in the top 15 (Pittman and Dulin).... 

An average... a team should be one WR 1-32, one WR 33-64, and one 65-96. 

And we have in top 15.

 

WRs are bad? Scheme/coach is bad? something other?

[EastStreet]

53 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

ballards pass rush makes another qb great

Our secondary more lol, and general conservative play/scheme. 

[JediXMan]

Has any reporters asked Reich or DC why Rodgers has 0 snaps this year. Seems like a good way to stunt his development smh.

[EastStreet]

5 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Has any reporters asked Reich or DC why Rodgers has 0 snaps this year. Seems like a good way to stunt his development smh.

 

I'd love answers about Blackmon and Moore's bad performance... lol... 

[DougDew]

The grades look better than they feel.  JAX was up 21-0 pretty quickly, then probably went off the gas, which allowed the grades to rise as the game was in hand.   Wonder if there would be a difference in the grades by halves.

[IrsaysArmy]

The way the Colts ply defense makes their games almost unwatchable. When this team doesn’t create the miraculous turnover every couple quarters they are downright ugly

[Maniac53]

1 hour ago, EastStreet said:

Our new motto?

 

"Creating Pro Bowl QBs, just not ours"

For real actually, how can anybody argue???? We have no Dbs since Vontae Davis. If we do the coaching and GM thinks they are not and does not give them a shot.. 

[RollerColt]

I honestly thought this unit would be our strength this year, and would bail us out while the offense struggled to figure things out early in the season. 
 

Boy, was I wrong… 

[Dobbinblitz]

3rd highest paid DL in the NFL.

 Watching the game I thought Big Grove, Gilmore, Speed, and Okereke were impactful.

[EastStreet]

14 minutes ago, Maniac53 said:

For real actually, how can anybody argue???? We have no Dbs since Vontae Davis. If we do the coaching and GM thinks they are not and does not give them a shot.. 

Gilmore is a stud.

Scheme is blah blah (at least for man guys)

[EastStreet]

 

[EastStreet]

He's not wrong...

 

 

[EastStreet]

 

[bsteves]

Was Rodgers not showing during training camp and preseason? With the potential he showed last year and the training camp/preseason he had I thought he may compete to start at corner.... now no snaps period? What is going on???

[EastStreet]

9 minutes ago, bsteves said:

Was Rodgers not showing during training camp and preseason? With the potential he showed last year and the training camp/preseason he had I thought he may compete to start at corner.... now no snaps period? What is going on???

 

same conversation in confidence poll thread

[Solid84]

5 hours ago, EastStreet said:

He's not wrong...

 

 

Yep, was asking for the same thing. Give the DL time to get there - take away the shallow routes. 

[Chucklez]

This type of defense lives and dies on creating turnovers and getting to the QB... of which we have managed hardly any of either. Sure we havent had Leonard, but this team cant live or die on one player....

The whole prevent the big play and make the offense drive on you isnt going to work in today's NFL, offenses are just too good. If we play the same against this version of the Chiefs where Mahomes is tearing teams apart in the short game, we are going to look even worse than we did last week. 

This is truly make or break time for this coaching staff.... show some flexibility and adaptivity for situational football, or go down with a sinking ship. Gus Bradley, time for this pass rush to show up or we (and you) are cooked.

[EastStreet]

16 hours ago, Solid84 said:

Yep, was asking for the same thing. Give the DL time to get there - take away the shallow routes. 

Less cushion (tighter zone or man). 

I know LVR's pass D wasn't great last year, but didn't give up 70% completion... 

Gilmore is playing great. Moore though, is very very meh. Facyson was better this week, but meh. 

[EastStreet]

 

[EastStreet]

 

 

[EastStreet]

and EJ as 2nd LEO

 

[Moosejawcolt]

15 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

Why are people expecting anything different? This defensive scheme is dead. It went out with the Seahawks last superbowl win. 

[EastStreet]

23 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Why are people expecting anything different? This defensive scheme is dead. It went out with the Seahawks last superbowl win. 

 

Outside of C3, do you understand the differences (front 7)? Honestly question... 

 

Hint - Bill B uses a variation of front 7 (Seattle D)

[coltsfan_canada]

Mahomes has owned Gus Bradley defense let's see how he does this time.

[Moosejawcolt]

16 hours ago, EastStreet said:

 

Outside of C3, do you understand the differences (front 7)? Honestly question... 

 

Hint - Bill B uses a variation of front 7 (Seattle D)

Nope

[EastStreet]

3 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Nope

Then you shouldn't say it's dead. 

 

FYI... we need a real C3 FS... our FS has allowed a team lead in TDs... 3..... Without those 3 or at least 1.. lol, we'd like be at least 1-1... 

[Moosejawcolt]

1 hour ago, EastStreet said:

Then you shouldn't say it's dead. 

 

FYI... we need a real C3 FS... our FS has allowed a team lead in TDs... 3..... Without those 3 or at least 1.. lol, we'd like be at least 1-1... 

Well u could say the same a out pass rush. It's non existent. TE  and WR play is crap. O line play is crap. Man it's juat depressing. 

[EastStreet]

2 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Well u could say the same a out pass rush. It's non existent. TE  and WR play is crap. O line play is crap. Man it's juat depressing. 

 

Sometimes it's scheme, sometimes it's coach, sometimes it's roster. Sometimes a combo....

 

NE for instance, did good (pressures) last year... 25+% pressures. NE is tied for #8 in sacks this year.

 

Anything 25% is fine. Below 20% is bad. 

 

Interesting... Flus is #4 in pressure %... 35+%.... and last in blitz %..... He did not that when Indy... Tells me Reich impacted D scheme and game plan. Nick looks different in Philly too. 

 

No need to pivot to O lol... stay on D...  

[Solid84]

On 9/21/2022 at 1:25 AM, EastStreet said:

Our new motto?

 

"Creating Pro Bowl QBs, just not ours"

“Other teams suck too! Huzzah!”

[will426]

How often do we play press man? I would assume our line would get to the qb if we’re ruining the timing of some of these routes..seems like every DC we get loves zone and playing off the wr

[Dingus McGirt]

All our coaches, coach scared.

[Thunderbolt]

I don't have any confidence in Reich's coaching this team, chalk up another loss!