After the Draft: What we are hearing__on Twitter, Reddit, Podcasts, from fans, on sports radio, etc.

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59 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

We will approach Pittman (and Taylor) next spring about contract extensions.  If we think we can work out a deal, then we will and he’ll remain a Colt.   But if he wants more than Ballard thinks he’s worth — and if the young WRs are developing — then I can see Ballard trading him so we get something in return as we did with Rock.  I don’t see us letting Pittman walk out the door for nothing. 
 

Finally….   Not every good receiver gets $100 mill.   There’s no law that says it must be so.   There’s nothing insulting about $18m per on a contract of 4/72.   Some receivers are willing to take slightly less to stay in the right place.  I think MPJ likes Indy….   Likes being our WR1 so I think this eventually works out.   Again, I think the guarantees are key.   Or, maybe I’m wrong and Ballard is willing to go to $20m per on 4/80?   I just don’t see him going to 5/100. 

Pittman is not going to be traded. 

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Pittman is not going to be traded. 

lol at people suggesting Pittman getting traded.  The Colts don’t even have a proven number two WR behind him let a lone someone else who could be a number one.  

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[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Pittman is not going to be traded. 

Are you even aware of what YOU  wrote?!?   I know it was minutes ago, but maybe you forgot.    
 

YOU wrote Pittman will leave if he doesn’t get what he wants and he’s going to want at least 5/100.     You wrote that. 
 

I simply suggested that if the two sides can’t agree on a deal, that we not let him play out his contract and leave for nothing.  That we’d trade MP rather than let him leave and get nothing in return.   That’s the same thing that Tenn just did with Brown. 

 

Do you even know that there are only FOUR wide receivers who are getting a contract worth $100m?   Just four.   And the number of receivers getting $20 mill per is 11.   That’s it.   And two more are in the 19’s.    That’s 13 total before we hight 18 per.    So my offer of 4/72 would make him tied for the 14th highest paid wide receiver.   I think that’s darn good money. 
 

In other words..     the chances MPJ gets a contract of 5/100 is not very good.   Not zero, but not very high either.  Of course we don’t want to trade him.  CB loves the guy.  But the contract has to work for both sides. 

[shasta519]

On 6/13/2022 at 1:36 PM, philba101 said:

Colts Land at #11 in NFLTR's final power ranking list of the summer. Titans ranked at #16. Do you expect the Colts to be that much better than the back to back AFC South Champions?

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfltr-review-final-2022-offseason-nfl-power-rankings/

 

I don’t. But I also don’t think that’s a huge difference. 
 

I know TEN lost AJ Brown, but Burks could very well be a stud. Robert Woods is a very good veteran WR, assuming he comes back from the ACL (like many have done recently). And he should give them far more than the injured Julio did last year. 

 

Also added Hooper and drafted a TE to a group that was awful last year. So big improvement.
 

Henry will be back. 
 

The major disconnect for me is this idea that the Colts QB play will be dramatically improved, but TEN’s can’t or won’t. 
 

Why can’t TEN get better QB play?
 

Tannehill was on par with Ryan just last season…and Tannehill was far better the previous two seasons.
 

So if Ryan is a lock to play better, then we have to consider that Tannehill could get back to the level he was only two 1-2 years ago with the same team. And that would be a big improvement.
 

Otherwise, that’s a double standard. 

I think they are very close teams. 
 

 

 

[stitches]

 

 

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2 hours ago, stitches said:

 

 

He really did not like Wentz. He should be thankful he earned that extension with Rivers.  I expect him to have another big year this year.

[2006Coltsbestever]

19 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

He really did not like Wentz. He should be thankful he earned that extension with Rivers.  I expect him to have another big year this year.

Wentz put up decent numbers and was above average, on Tannehill's and Hurts's level so he wasn't bad. Having said that he missed so many easy opportunities that it makes fans like me and many cringe. If he just hits TY on easy out route, TY goes for 70 and a TD and we beat the Raiders. The Jacks game would not of mattered. That is just 1 example but he didn't use the TE right or Hines right either as options when pressured. Film shows that. Matt Ryan will IMO. Also Wentz played liked doo doo vs the Pats, Taylor just dominated and so did our D.

[MikeCurtis]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:35 PM, NewColtsFan said:

We didn’t give Leonard $100m.   Nelson is likely going to get it.   I’d be beyond shocked if Pittman even comes close.  It would be a very un-Ballard-like thing to do.   $100m for a receiver?    I don’t see it.   
 

I’m thinking 4 years at $18m per.   $72 mill.  I think the key will be the guarantees.
 

That’s my prediction. 

I think what Pittman makes in a contract will be decided mainly on how he performs this year

 

Carson seemingly went to Pittman nearly half of all passing plays (Im too lazy to look up the exacy %) 

 

Do we pay Pittman 18M if he catches 60 catches for 900 yards?

 

I think Pittman will get many fewer targets this year, as our new QB will spread the ball around MUCH more than Wentz

 

And actually looks to the RB and TE

 

 

We will see

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

I think what Pittman makes in a contract will be decided mainly on how he performs this year

 

Carson seemingly went to Pittman nearly half of all passing plays (Im too lazy to look up the exacy %) 

 

Do we pay Pittman 18M if he catches 60 catches for 900 yards?

 

I think Pittman will get many fewer targets this year, as our new QB will spread the ball around MUCH more than Wentz

 

And actually looks to the RB and TE

 

 

We will see

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He might get a few less targets bur I think his yards will be up. He is going to get those crossers again like he had with Rivers. Those create so much YAC. 

[MikeCurtis]

18 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

He might get a few less targets bur I think his yards will be up. He is going to get those crossers again like he had with Rivers. Those create so much YAC. 

You may end up being right

 

But..... 

 

I just dont see an explosive WR in Pittman.....  I see a jump ball specialist that gets little separation.... and a guy that got thrown to because he was all that we had last year

 

I dont see a WR1 in Pittman.... nor should he get paid like a WR1..... IF he doesnt play like one with a QB that will hit the open man

 

We will see...... Hopefully I am wrong

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

You may end up being right

 

But..... 

 

I just dont see an explosive WR in Pittman.....  I see a jump ball specialist that gets little separation.... and a guy that got thrown to because he was all that we had last year

 

I dont see a WR1 in Pittman.... nor should he get paid like a WR1..... IF he doesnt play like one with a QB that will hit the open man

 

We will see...... Hopefully I am wrong

 

 

He is better at YAC then what people think. He might not be explosive but his YAC was so good with Rivers. He should get that back with Ryan plus have the jump ball stuff he had with Carson. I mean he did pass 1k yards and Reich basically had to mark us a running team because he didn’t trust the QB. All the middle of the field stuff will be back like we had with Rivers. We are going to be a more explosive passing team this year.

 

Funny when I hear Pittman shouldn’t get paid like A WR 1. He had more yards then scary Terry last season and Terry only had like a point seven more yards per catch. Their stats were almost identical. If he follows it up this year with just a couple hundred more yards then last season he will get paid like one. I don’t see him as a question mark at all. I think he is a sure thing. He was already ready for the nfl as a rookie but missed 4 games. He would of been close to 900 yards had he not got hurt. 
 

You really need two studs at WR so the opposing team can’t key on just one. Hopefully Campbell stays healthy and pierce contribute so they can’t key on Pittman.

[philba101]

Colts starting safety Khari Willis retiring at 26 years old to pursue ministry:

 

The 26-year-old starter was headed into the fourth and final season of his rookie contract, placing him less than a year away from his first shot at free agency and a potentially significant raise in his second contract. Willis, who had earned roughly $3 million in his first three seasons in the NFL, also walked away from $2.54 million in base salary in 2022.

 

Not sure how much of the $2.54 million in base salary the Colts get back in salary cap space?

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2022/06/15/khari-willis-colts-retiring-safety-2022-nfl-roster-ministry/7635860001/

[Bolt Colt]

Michael Pittman was 55th in target accuracy with Carson Wentz 2021.

In Julio Jones, Russell Gage, and Kyle Pitts' most recent seasons with Matt Ryan, none finished worse than 15th in target accuracy.

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Some encouraging 2021 stats for Michael Pitman targets in 2022:

2021 OnTgt% throws: -Matt Ryan: 78.1% (9th)

                                  Carson Wentz: 73.7% (26th)

2021 Bad throw %: -Ryan: 14.5% (5th)

                             -Wentz: 18.8% (26th)

Ryan threw 44 more passes than Wentz and was still a higher quality passer.

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[TonyBungee]

On 6/16/2022 at 6:05 AM, stitches said:

 

 

Those “layups” are very often the difference between winning & losing.  A missed layup on 1st down, now it’s 2nd & 10 instead of 2nd & 2.  Missed layup on 3rd & 4, you’re punting instead of driving. 

[philba101]

According to NFLTR, the Colts now sit at 17th in the league with their amount of cap space after the retirement of Khari Willis. The Colts currently have approximately $12.35 million available. The Browns lead the league with $42.16 million in available space and the Patriots are last with just $1.76 million available. I would love to hear your thoughts on if/how the Colts should spend some of that money.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-cap-space-1/

[philba101]

Single game tickets to Chiefs and Steelers are sold out at Lucas Oil Stadium.

https://www.colts.com/news/chiefs-steelers-tickets-sold-out-2022-schedule-lucas-oil-stadium

[richard pallo]

26 minutes ago, philba101 said:

Single game tickets to Chiefs and Steelers are sold out at Lucas Oil Stadium.

https://www.colts.com/news/chiefs-steelers-tickets-sold-out-2022-schedule-lucas-oil-stadium

Most likely visiting fans I would guess.

[Four2itus]

42 minutes ago, philba101 said:

I would love to hear your thoughts on if/how the Colts should spend some of that money.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-cap-space-1/

I want them to save it for extensions/in-season injury replacement.

[richard pallo]

50 minutes ago, philba101 said:

According to NFLTR, the Colts now sit at 17th in the league with their amount of cap space after the retirement of Khari Willis. The Colts currently have approximately $12.35 million available. The Browns lead the league with $42.16 million in available space and the Patriots are last with just $1.76 million available. I would love to hear your thoughts on if/how the Colts should spend some of that money.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-cap-space-1/

Be bold.  Go all in and restructure a few guys and include Kenny in a trade for Mclaurin.  We would then be one of the favorites to win the SB.  We are a legitimate WR away from being true favorites IMO. 

[open window]

2 hours ago, philba101 said:

According to NFLTR, the Colts now sit at 17th in the league with their amount of cap space after the retirement of Khari Willis. The Colts currently have approximately $12.35 million available. The Browns lead the league with $42.16 million in available space and the Patriots are last with just $1.76 million available. I would love to hear your thoughts on if/how the Colts should spend some of that money.

https://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-cap-space-1/

What do you guys think about bringing in Suh on a one year deal?

[philba101]

25 minutes ago, open window said:

What do you guys think about bringing in Suh on a one year deal?

The Colts seem to be intent on finding pass rushers so I wouldn't put it past them.  In reality, I think the Colts are eager to see what Paye and Odeyingbo are going to do with Buckner and Ngakoue on the other side.

[philba101]

CBS Sports lists the Colts’ biggest remaining offseason need as cornerback: Do you agree?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/cbs-sports-lists-colts-biggest-204221128.html

 

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1 hour ago, philba101 said:

CBS Sports lists the Colts’ biggest remaining offseason need as cornerback: Do you agree?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/cbs-sports-lists-colts-biggest-204221128.html

 

No. It’s WR because of the unproven talent.

[EastStreet]

We'll likely be shopping both DBs and WRs during cut downs. 

DB is probably a bigger need now due to both the Moore situation and Willis's retirement. 

[Bolt Colt]

IMO: No thank you to Suh. Always heard and saw that he was a dirty player.

Im sure he was cut from the Buccaneers for a reason.

 

[Four2itus]

On 6/21/2022 at 12:14 PM, open window said:

What do you guys think about bringing in Suh on a one year deal?

I've said it was a horrible idea every single time he has become a FA. 

[Bolt Colt]

 

 

[EastStreet]

He was doing the chain thing too. 

[philba101]

The Colts are in the bottom five in the league in owed Dead-Cap money.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-teams-dead-money-salary-cap/

 

[Four2itus]

3 hours ago, philba101 said:

The Colts are in the bottom five in the league in owed Dead-Cap money.

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/nfl-teams-dead-money-salary-cap/

 

This might have been posted in the "positive" thread.

[philba101]

Braden Smith has been excelling in run blocking:

Right Tackles with the highest run blocking grades since 2019

 Ryan Ramczyk: 91.6
 La’el Collins: 91.6
 Braden Smith: 90.4 pic.twitter.com/OnSSiBVFYB

— PFF IND Colts (@PFF_Colts) June 26, 2022

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Welp there you go

 

 

[LiveAndLetAddai]

3 hours ago, Four2itus said:

This might have been posted in the "positive" thread.

Why be "positive" about the Colts, lol!  Just joking!  The future is bright Bro!

[LiveAndLetAddai]

1 hour ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Welp there you go

 

 

That is stupid money!  But Dan probably needs to deflect from his personal issues with his fan base...lol!

 

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Just now, LiveAndLetAddai said:

That is stupid money!  But Dan probably needs to deflect from his personal issues with his fan base...lol!

 

Expect Pittman to get around this same amount next season. 

[LiveAndLetAddai]

4 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Expect Pittman to get around this same amount next season. 

We shall see but Washington has driven up the price for players for quite some time under Dan's watch.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

5 hours ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Welp there you go

 

 

 

Pittman will get his money too and stay in indy......the numbers will be less important to  Ballard than spending a high draft pick to replace our only proven WR. 

 

Even if one of the kids and/or Pierce step up Pittman is not going anywhere. 

[NewColtsFan]

5 hours ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Expect Pittman to get around this same amount next season. 

Pittman will not get similar money to McLaurin.   3-years and up to $71 mill is nearly $24 mill per year.    I don’t see the Colts agreeing to that type of contract.