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7 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

I am not sure either but he does love elite RAS traits and the top 6 safeties have those in spades along with production at FBS schools. 

Is Nick Cross in your Top 6?

 

Edit:  To add to McCollum, he scored a 9.99 RAS.

 

BTW, it seems like this draft is deeper in zone corners than even WRs.  Maybe that's why Ballard traded RYS for an edge.

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56 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Is Nick Cross in your Top 6?

 

Edit:  To add to McCollum, he scored a 9.99 RAS.

 

BTW, it seems like this draft is deeper in zone corners than even WRs.  Maybe that's why Ballard traded RYS for an edge.

 

That is why I feel our 2nd round pick will not be a cornerback. Those Cover 2 / Cover 3 corners can be obtained in the 3rd round, IMO.

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3 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

I am afraid getting a project like Tariq Woolen who has played cornerback just for 2 years gives me Ben Banogu vibes, but for the CB position. 

 

Elam, Gordon, McCreary, all guys that could be there at No.42 all have less than 32 inch arms, some even less than 31 inch arms. Not happening with Ballard and the Cover 3 GB wants to play. Joshua Williams with Fayetteville State University, Alontae Taylor of TN and Vincent Gray of Michigan, who are probably rated Round 3 would be the next ones in range for us with 32 inch arms. 

 

However, most of those safeties mentioned above, Dax Hill, Brisker and Lewis Cine have 32 inch plus arms. It is a confluence of so many factors that I keep coming back to safety at this spot at No. 42 are rated higher than the Round 3 CBs mentioned above.

 

I would not mind at all if we went safety, then cornerback in this draft. Then the forum will get antsy for our second 3rd round pick to be a WR, LOL. :) 

What about the Sauce Gardner kid?

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3 minutes ago, krunk said:

What about the Sauce Gardner kid?

 

He is very good. However, Vikings and Giants are all looking at him, he won't last past 36 at worst, most likely Round 1 guy going to the Vikings. 

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4 hours ago, krunk said:

But what about the cornerbacks?

Ballard has that very specific requirement for 32” arms he likes, so I don’t really see anyone who fits the bill. Tariq Woolen is like TJ Green. He’s a complete project. He’s one of the best pure athletes at corner to ever come out, but he’s very raw. He’s been at corner for two years. Drafting him that early would echo the Banogu pick from a few years back. 
 

Also Bradley’s scheme requires these long corners, and a lot of those guys may be available day 3. After Woolen the other corners that have 32” arms and are athletic are Akayleb Evans, Martin Emerson, Joshua Williams, Vincent Gray, and Alontae Taylor. Taylor might be the only guy in that group to go day 2, although there’s always a few guys that go way higher than their projections.

 

But hey, now that you’ve brought it up, that’s a possibility too. The Colts could easily go Safety and cornerback with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. 

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6 hours ago, chad72 said:

I would not mind at all if we went safety, then cornerback in this draft. Then the forum will get antsy for our second 3rd round pick to be a WR, LOL. :) 

We only have one 3rd round pick after trading for Matt Ryan.

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15 hours ago, Shive said:

We only have one 3rd round pick after trading for Matt Ryan.

 

Oh yeah, how could I forget?? Duh!!!

 

I do have this weird feeling there is a trade down coming from Ballard in Round 2 gaining a 3rd rounder, we will see. He likes more throws at the dart board anyways. :) 

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19 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

He is very good. However, Vikings and Giants are all looking at him, he won't last past 36 at worst, most likely Round 1 guy going to the Vikings. 

So far I haven't been smitten with too many of these CBs ive watched so I guess id have to agree about likely taking a FS or a Wideout early unless there's an OL or a QB somewhere in the works. 

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2 hours ago, chad72 said:

I do have this weird feeling there is a trade down coming from Ballard in Round 2 gaining a 3rd rounder, we will see. He likes more throws at the dart board anyways. :) 

I have the same feeling. Unless there's a guy that we have ranked highly that falls to us, I think we'll be looking to trade back for an additional 3rd.

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On 4/1/2022 at 7:54 AM, krunk said:

So far I haven't been smitten with too many of these CBs ive watched so I guess id have to agree about likely taking a FS or a Wideout early unless there's an OL or a QB somewhere in the works. 

Wont lie though.  Trent Mcduffie the CB from Washington seems to be pretty good.

I don't think he's far off from Brisker and Hill if you had them all in a bunch in 

the 2nd round and you had to take 1

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On 4/6/2022 at 3:52 PM, Defjamz26 said:

You guys are probably tired of hearing me talk about safeties in the draft but here’s another.

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/draft/30-days-of-fits-nick-cross
 


https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=21444

 

9.87 RAS. Rangy with ball skills and great character. He feels like a Colt too.

I think Cross has been rising on draft boards.  Not sure that he'll be there at pick 73.

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On 4/1/2022 at 11:13 AM, Shive said:

I have the same feeling. Unless there's a guy that we have ranked highly that falls to us, I think we'll be looking to trade back for an additional 3rd.

Agreed.  That move up to 42 with the Wentz trade feels more like tactical positioning than wanting just a better BPA.

 

We can trade down with ARZ, DAL, BUF, or GB and get picks 55,56,57,58 and picks 87, 88, 89, and 92.   

 

If we finish round 2 by adding Nick Cross, a rangy FS for the back end of Gus' defense, and pick 92, it would be a great 2nd round, IMO.

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