*UPDATED* Tyreek Hill traded to Miami

[r a y s k i]

The fastest man in the league is on the move,  this crazy offseason keeps on giving

[luv_pony_express]

I figured this would happen at some point.  The Chiefs are going to find it hard to avoid all of the stars that they've produced in the last few years -- especially as the big dollars on Mahomes' contract kick in.

 

Hill can command a lot of capital in a trade.  I can see where the Chiefs figure they might be better off getting some players and picks than trying to afford the kind of extension he's been seeking.

[Colt.45]

Wow. Not without merit, there're wides in this class.

 

 

[DeepseaColt]

21 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:

Wow. Not without merit, there're wides in this class.

 

 

The money these receivers are getting is mind boggling. WR's are going to start being like QB's where you can only maintain a team when they're on rookie contracts. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I'm sure Tyreek is excited about the possibility of going to the Jets or dolphins. 

 

...but if he gets the money he's seeking then I'm sure he'll be ok with it.

Wish him luck.

[Jackie Daytona]

The money the WR position is getting paid, and the assets surrendered to trade for them, is going to be looked on as a massive, massive, mistake in a few years.

 

This year, next year, and probably every year thereafter....there will be a plethora of easily available WR options in the draft ....year in, year out.  Why am I so sure of this?

 

Look at College, and even HS ball.  The offenses are less and less run centered.... It's all about slinging it around and gaudy stats.  Even in HS, you have hundreds of 1000 yd WR. In any given year.  It's now THE high dollar, glamour position second to QB.  

 

This means talented athletes will always look to see if they can play at WR before other positions....the demand for them is high, and the game, glory, and stats are equally inflated now. 

 

The flashy, productive, wr will be as easy to find as a serviceable RB.  Maybe even as early as this draft....and continuing for the foreseeable future.... The glut of WR means they are going to soon be a dime a dozen.... As such, I see, (so does CB I'm sure) zero reason to pay premium prices in terms of assets, not $$ to obtain and retain WR.

[James]

 

[James]

Miami Dolphins have Waddle and Hill. Good young TE in Gesicki too.

 

Meanwhile Ballard will continue to undervalue the WR position.

 

Pittman Jr. and Hill would have been insane to watch.

[r a y s k i]

27 minutes ago, Jackie Daytona said:

The money the WR position is getting paid, and the assets surrendered to trade for them, is going to be looked on as a massive, massive, mistake in a few years.

 

This year, next year, and probably every year thereafter....there will be a plethora of easily available WR options in the draft ....year in, year out.  Why am I so sure of this?

 

Look at College, and even HS ball.  The offenses are less and less run centered.... It's all about slinging it around and gaudy stats.  Even in HS, you have hundreds of 1000 yd WR. In any given year.  It's now THE high dollar, glamour position second to QB.  

 

This means talented athletes will always look to see if they can play at WR before other positions....the demand for them is high, and the game, glory, and stats are equally inflated now. 

 

The flashy, productive, wr will be as easy to find as a serviceable RB.  Maybe even as early as this draft....and continuing for the foreseeable future.... The glut of WR means they are going to soon be a dime a dozen.... As such, I see, (so does CB I'm sure) zero reason to pay premium prices in terms of assets, not $$ to obtain and retain WR.

While I might agree with overall what you mean, I think Hill worth that money, there are fast, very fast and him with ever improving catching ability

But yeah, you aren’t wrong

[chad72]

3 minutes ago, James said:

Miami Dolphins have Waddle and Hill. Good young TE in Gesicki too.

 

Meanwhile Ballard will continue to undervalue the WR position.

 

Pittman Jr. and Hill would have been insane to watch.

 

Now, if I am Ballard, I make a call to get DaVante Parker for a 4th rounder.

[Indyfan4life]

Edit - James posted the tweet. 

[Jackie Daytona]

5 minutes ago, James said:

 

Absolutely stupid....lmao

[Jackie Daytona]

4 minutes ago, James said:

Miami Dolphins have Waddle and Hill. Good young TE in Gesicki too.

 

Meanwhile Ballard will continue to undervalue the WR position.

 

Pittman Jr. and Hill would have been insane to watch.

WR are soon to be RBs.... Sure there will be Jonathan Taylor's.... But for every one of him, there's gonna be 100 of the Marlon Macks of the WR world.  

 

Miami will end up looking like * yet again for this trade.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, James said:

Miami Dolphins have Waddle and Hill. Good young TE in Gesicki too.

 

Meanwhile Ballard will continue to undervalue the WR position.

 

Pittman Jr. and Hill would have been insane to watch.

But yet the Dolphins have an average QB so none of it matters. They won't even make the playoffs. Bills and Pats both are better in their division. We have a good QB and we will win our division with Matt Ryan.

[Colts1324]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

But yet the Dolphins have an average QB so none of it matters. They won't even make the playoffs. Bills and Pats both are better in their division. We have a good QB and we will win our division with Matt Ryan.

Probably. But, this helps our chance in the AFC. We need the Dolphins to beat the Patriots once & to win some of the conference games to give us a chance at a better seed/wild-card with the AFC being as loaded as it is

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Colts1324 said:

Probably. But, this helps our chance in the AFC. We need the Dolphins to beat the Patriots once & to win some of the conference games to give us a chance at a better seed/wild-card with the AFC being as loaded as it is

Good point but I truly believe we will win our division now that we got Matt Ryan. He is clearly better than Ryan Tannehill where Wentz wasn't, that was pretty even. Tennessee won a lot of close games last year and we lost several close games. That could easily turn around. I think we split with Tennessee this year as well. Henry and Taylor are pretty equal at this point too. Pittman IMO will be good if not very good this upcoming year. Hines is our ace in the hole, he will benefit from having Matt at QB. I can see him having a huge year receiving wise. On the defensive side, adding that pass rusher from the Raiders was a nice move and we create more turnovers than anyone. Leonard will come in healthy which he wasn't last year. We need to add a good TE and a better LT and CB. Draft is coming up so it will be interesting. 

[Chrisaaron1023]

Welp.. that's one less team in the AFC.. just wow. 

 

Massive QB contracts do that. Chiefs window was open and they blew it. Just like Seattle.. 

 

 

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Here is Chiefs fan about now 

[chad72]

3 minutes ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

Welp.. that's one less team in the AFC.. just wow. 

 

Massive QB contracts do that. Chiefs window was open and they blew it. Just like Seattle.. 

 

 

After a year or two, they might be better for it. The NFL can be won by guys like Tyreek but the bread and butter has been the intermediate game since NFL Ds have gotten better at rolling coverages towards guys like Hill and Hill might slow down in a couple of years. I just do not think the Chiefs got enough in return though they got more than the Packers got for DaVante Adams, technically speaking.

[Yoshinator]

9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Good point but I truly believe we will win our division now that we got Matt Ryan. He is clearly better than Ryan Tannehill where Wentz wasn't, that was pretty even. Tennessee won a lot of close games last year and we lost several close games. That could easily turn around. I think we split with Tennessee this year as well. Henry and Taylor are pretty equal at this point too. Pittman IMO will be good if not very good this upcoming year. Hines is our ace in the hole, he will benefit from having Matt at QB. I can see him having a huge year receiving wise. On the defensive side, adding that pass rusher from the Raiders was a nice move and we create more turnovers than anyone. Leonard will come in healthy which he wasn't last year. We need to add a good TE and a better LT and CB. Draft is coming up so it will be interesting. 

Tennessee went 12-5 last year without Henry for a large portion of the year. They won't be as easy to beat in the division as you think. Urban Meyer was also an awful coach for the Jags, and after reading recent reports about his time in Jax, I believe he is 100% responsible for Trevor Lawrence's struggles, as Lawrence seemed to pick it up a bit at the end of the year after Meyer was fired. With Doug Pederson in charge, a big FA period, the no1 overall pick, and a second year for Trevor Lawrence, they aren't a terrible team IMO as in previous years. Texans are the Texans for now, but the return for Deshaun Watson will help them catch up in the division a bit if they hit on even 3 or 4 of the six 1st round picks in the next 3 years. 

 

I still think at this point, even with Matt Ryan, we are the 2nd best team in the division by a longshot. Additional moves may change my mind, but we are running out of time.

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Tennessee went 12-5 last year without Henry for a large portion of the year. They won't be as easy to beat in the division as you think. Urban Meyer was also an awful coach for the Jags, and after reading recent reports about his time in Jax, I believe he is 100% responsible for Trevor Lawrence's struggles, as Lawrence seemed to pick it up a bit at the end of the year after Meyer was fired. With Doug Pederson in charge, a big FA period, the no1 overall pick, and a second year for Trevor Lawrence, they aren't a terrible team IMO as in previous years. Texans are the Texans for now, but the return for Deshaun Watson will help them catch up in the division a bit if they hit on even 3 or 4 of the six 1st round picks in the next 3 years. 

 

I still think at this point, even with Matt Ryan, we are the 2nd best team in the division by a longshot. Additional moves may change my mind, but we are running out of time.

Tennessee swept us last year and we dug a 0-3 hole, with Matt it won't happen. Wentz gave away that 2nd Tennessee game which made it impossible for us to win the division. We won't lose at Jacks either with a QB like Matt. I hope everyone remembers what I am posting because when we win the division I will be doing this 

[Mr. Too Proud]

Devante Parker for a 7th?

[chad72]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Too Proud said:

Devante Parker for a 7th?

 

Dolphins would be happy with a Robert Woods like trade for a 6th, I get the feeling. Behind Hill, Waddle, Gesicki, Edmonds, Parker might be No.5 in the feeding chain and unless they run 3 WR sets and they have Cedric Wilson too, he may not see the field. What is the most they will say for a 6th? No, or ask for a 5th?

[teganslaw]

Kansas City no longer wants to win the AFC West? I can deal with that; having no Tyreek Hill will be easier when we play KC this season. 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Tyree Hill is now  like 40 minutes away from me taking my very young granddaughter to see. We'll be seeing a Turquoise blur running by defenders. Lol ....can Tua throw it deep enough downfield to him? 

 

KC is not as good today as they were yesterday. KC will draft a wr to take his place BUT Tyreek is not someone you can replace. I don't think I've ever seen someone so much faster than DB's.

Wow what speed!

 

But the chiefs will be ok because they still have Mahomes & Reid. 

 

I'm taking my Emma to see Marlins games too. 

 

 

[danlhart87]

Chiefs won this trade 

[ColtV]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

 

But the chiefs will be ok because they still have Mahomes & Reid. 

 

 

 

 

Yep absolutely zero reason to start writing the obituary. They have been in 2 of the last 3 super bowls, were in the afccg last year and Mahomes is so incredibly dangerous it seems like there is no deficit he cannot overcome. 

[chad72]

4 minutes ago, ColtV said:

Yep absolutely zero reason to start writing the obituary. They have been in 2 of the last 3 super bowls, were in the afccg last year and Mahomes is so incredibly dangerous it seems like there is no deficit he cannot overcome. 

 

A big part of it is Tyreek Hill though and the attention he garners. A quick hitter across the field and he takes it to the house. He is like Antonio Brown was in his prime, no single guy could keep up with him. 

[Colt.45]

The draft is stacked with receivers this year. KC ought to be able to find a guy who can be elevated by Mahomes.

 

Makes one wonder why they let Pringle walk if they knew this was a likelihood. Mecole, Juju, draft WR, Kelce.....they'll be fine, the triggerman is still there.

[chad72]

19 minutes ago, Colt.45 said:

The draft is stacked with receivers this year. KC ought to be able to find a guy who can be elevated by Mahomes.

 

Makes one wonder why they let Pringle walk if they knew this was a likelihood. Mecole, Juju, draft WR, Kelce.....they'll be fine, the triggerman is still there.

 

Calvin Austin III of Memphis and Danny Gray of SMU are both YAC specimens with terrific speed.

 

Yeah, it does make you wonder about Pringle who had the speed as well. Denarius Robinson is gone too.

 

[holeymoley99]

Chiefs still have Daurice Fountain so wr in good hands.......,

[tvturner]

7 hours ago, James said:

Miami Dolphins have Waddle and Hill. Good young TE in Gesicki too.

 

Meanwhile Ballard will continue to undervalue the WR position.

 

Pittman Jr. and Hill would have been insane to watch.

You wanted the Colts to give up that haul and that contract for Hill? 

[Moosejawcolt]

13 hours ago, Jackie Daytona said:

The money the WR position is getting paid, and the assets surrendered to trade for them, is going to be looked on as a massive, massive, mistake in a few years.

 

This year, next year, and probably every year thereafter....there will be a plethora of easily available WR options in the draft ....year in, year out.  Why am I so sure of this?

 

Look at College, and even HS ball.  The offenses are less and less run centered.... It's all about slinging it around and gaudy stats.  Even in HS, you have hundreds of 1000 yd WR. In any given year.  It's now THE high dollar, glamour position second to QB.  

 

This means talented athletes will always look to see if they can play at WR before other positions....the demand for them is high, and the game, glory, and stats are equally inflated now. 

 

The flashy, productive, wr will be as easy to find as a serviceable RB.  Maybe even as early as this draft....and continuing for the foreseeable future.... The glut of WR means they are going to soon be a dime a dozen.... As such, I see, (so does CB I'm sure) zero reason to pay premium prices in terms of assets, not $$ to obtain and retain WR.

Not Hill. He mayb the most explosive wr ever. He's a game changer. He's one of a kind and it probably killed the Chiefs to let him go.

[Moosejawcolt]

8 hours ago, Colt.45 said:

The draft is stacked with receivers this year. KC ought to be able to find a guy who can be elevated by Mahomes.

 

Makes one wonder why they let Pringle walk if they knew this was a likelihood. Mecole, Juju, draft WR, Kelce.....they'll be fine, the triggerman is still there.

I think Hill elevated  Mahommes more then Mahommes elevated Hill

[Colt.45]

6 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

I think Hill elevated  Mahommes more then Mahommes elevated Hill

 

We'll find out this season.