Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum
Enter To Win 2 Tickets to Titans @ Colts Sun 10/8 | 1:00 PM EDT

Brady is BACK..

adubb84

By adubb84
in NFL General

Recommended Posts

coltsblue1844 Practice Squad

coltsblue1844

Posted
Posted

Brady gets hurt week 1 and his backup (who hadnt been a full time starter since high school), took that team to 11-5.... Peyton gets hurt and the team goes 2-14?

 

Brady is great...Peyton was great.  Anyone who cant agree that both are/were great, is just being silly...

 

My thoughts, though... Put Peyton on all of the teams that Brady has been on, and they win as many if not MORE Super Bowls... Put Brady on the teams that Peyton was on, and they wouldnt have won any in Indy and just the 1 in Denver.  I know that is just MY opinion, but it is how i truly feel about it.

 

And, side note...none of Peyton's teams were ever caught cheating lol

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 89
  • Created
  • Last Reply
GoPats Practice Squad

GoPats

Posted
Posted
45 minutes ago, NFLUp said:

LOL.

 

Yeah, okay.  And how many SBs did Peyton win when winning MVP?

Thought so.

 

MVPs are a joke.  We all know it.  They measure nothing.  

 

Literally no one puts Peyton in the same sentence as Brady.  
 

Brady has a winning record over Peyton.  When they happened is irrelevant; heck, the topic itself is fairly irrelevant because they don’t tel much of a story at all.  Never did Brady lose to the Colts in the playoffs 20-3.  
 

We all know that no one other than a desperate Colts fan thinks Peyton is anywhere near Brady’s level.  MVPs?  That’s your criteria ?

Hilarious.

 

I'm a Patriots fan, not a "desperate Colts fan," and I do not agree. Brady is the undisputable GOAT at this point, but to say Manning isn't anywhere close to his level is disingenuous. I do believe Brady has separated himself from whoever you want to list 2nd, but that doesn't degrade the accomplishments of guys like Manning, Montana, etc. 

 

Early on, it was very one-sided, but were you a Patriots fan in 2006 when they lost the AFCCG against the Colts? Or the infamous "4th-and-2" game? Although the Patriots basically smacked the Colts around for a few years at the start, Indy eventually figured it out and became a formidable opponent. You could easily argue that Brady would have 10 rings if it weren't for Manning. Or 12 if you want to throw in the whole family, lol. 

 

I suppose I just don't believe in underestimating an opponent, or a past rival. 

 

Not to mention, this is why people hate Patriots fans. haha

Link to comment
Share on other sites
2006Coltsbestever Ring of Honor

2006Coltsbestever

Posted
Posted
13 hours ago, GoPats said:

 

I'm a Patriots fan, not a "desperate Colts fan," and I do not agree. Brady is the undisputable GOAT at this point, but to say Manning isn't anywhere close to his level is disingenuous. I do believe Brady has separated himself from whoever you want to list 2nd, but that doesn't degrade the accomplishments of guys like Manning, Montana, etc. 

 

Early on, it was very one-sided, but were you a Patriots fan in 2006 when they lost the AFCCG against the Colts? Or the infamous "4th-and-2" game? Although the Patriots basically smacked the Colts around for a few years at the start, Indy eventually figured it out and became a formidable opponent. You could easily argue that Brady would have 10 rings if it weren't for Manning. Or 12 if you want to throw in the whole family, lol. 

 

I suppose I just don't believe in underestimating an opponent, or a past rival. 

 

Not to mention, this is why people hate Patriots fans. haha

Well said. I think Brady is the goat and I am a diehard colts fan since 1984. Having said that, Montana and Peyton are on the same level. SB wins is a huge criteria but so are regular season wins and MVP's. It is not like Peyton hasn't won a SB either, he won one with 2 different teams. NFLup posts like he is 18 years old lol.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
2006Coltsbestever Ring of Honor

2006Coltsbestever

Posted
Posted
39 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Well said. I think Brady is the goat and I am a diehard colts fan since 1984. Having said that, Montana and Peyton are on the same level. SB wins is a huge criteria but so are regular season wins and MVP's. It is not like Peyton hasn't won a SB either, he won one with 2 different teams. NFLup posts like he is 18 years old lol.

Key things I look at when ranking QBs all time are SB wins, regular season wins, MVP's, and stats. To me a QB at least has to have 2 SB wins to be on the Mt Rushmore. At least 1 MVP, winning MVP's means a QB is putting up huge stats and winning alot of games, and a ton of regular season wins which keeps their team relevant for a decade. 1. Brady, 2. Montana, 3. Peyton. 4. Elway. SB era Mt Rushmore imo. 1966 to 2021.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
colt191812 Walk On

colt191812

Posted
Posted
On 4/2/2022 at 3:28 AM, coltsblue1844 said:

Brady gets hurt week 1 and his backup (who hadnt been a full time starter since high school), took that team to 11-5.... Peyton gets hurt and the team goes 2-14?

 

Brady is great...Peyton was great.  Anyone who cant agree that both are/were great, is just being silly...

 

My thoughts, though... Put Peyton on all of the teams that Brady has been on, and they win as many if not MORE Super Bowls... Put Brady on the teams that Peyton was on, and they wouldnt have won any in Indy and just the 1 in Denver.  I know that is just MY opinion, but it is how i truly feel about it.

 

And, side note...none of Peyton's teams were ever caught cheating lol

Facts.

 

Brady has also had the luxury of coming out of around a dozen playoff games where he played poorly as a winner. Imagine if Peyton and Rogers had that luxury. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
coltsblue1844 Practice Squad

coltsblue1844

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, colt191812 said:

Facts.

 

Brady has also had the luxury of coming out of around a dozen playoff games where he played poorly as a winner. Imagine if Peyton and Rogers had that luxury. 

Imagine Marino with Brady's teams...today's rules etc...he was an AMAZING QB who gets no praise due to no rings...but on pure talent, he was amazing. Today's generation missed getting to see that!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
GoPats Practice Squad

GoPats

Posted
Posted
On 4/2/2022 at 2:23 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Well said. I think Brady is the goat and I am a diehard colts fan since 1984. Having said that, Montana and Peyton are on the same level. SB wins is a huge criteria but so are regular season wins and MVP's. It is not like Peyton hasn't won a SB either, he won one with 2 different teams. NFLup posts like he is 18 years old lol.

 

There is an entire generation of Patriots fans who know nothing of the old, dark days of this franchise. My son is 9 and he has no idea that what he's seen even in his short lifetime he'll probably never see again. When I was his age, we'd have to listen to home games on the radio because of TV blackouts. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
cdgacoltsfan Hall of Famer

cdgacoltsfan

Posted
Posted
21 minutes ago, GoPats said:

 

There is an entire generation of Patriots fans who know nothing of the old, dark days of this franchise. My son is 9 and he has no idea that what he's seen even in his short lifetime he'll probably never see again. When I was his age, we'd have to listen to home games on the radio because of TV blackouts. 

 

Oh goodie! Another season of " As the world turns" starring the 2 drama queens of the NFL ..Brady and Rodgers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Lancer1
      2023 Week#3 All Around the NFL Game Thread

      By Lancer1 · Posted

      I think he still will, it's just a matter of time.
    • OhioColt
      OhioColts early college watchlist and potential FA targets breakdown

      By OhioColt · Posted

      I think it's the sophomore class that I am really following this year and see how well these young men continue to grow.    DI: Mason Graham, Michigan (Sophomore) highest-graded true freshman IDL in the country in 2022 with an 80.3 grade.  2023 PFF TOW 2 honors   SS: Jaden Hicks, Washington State (Sophomore) – 2023 PFF TOW 2 honors   RB Quinshon Judkins (Ole Miss) Sophomore 2022 PFF TOW 9 honors had 14 broken tackles against Texas A&M, 5 breakaway runs of 15+ yards in company with likes of Derick Henry, Alvin Kamara and Chuba Hubbard.  Judkins came to Ole Miss as just a three-star recruit but, like Will Johnson at No. 21, dominated in Year 1.  He ranked in the top 10 in college football in rushing yards (1,567), rushing touchdowns (16), yards after contact (929) and forced missed tackles (76). Judkins also moved the chains on 91 of his attempts last year, placing fourth among FBS running backs.   WR Tetairoa McMillian (Arizona) Sophomore led all true freshman in 2022 with 702 receiving yards and 8 TDs.   RG Jonah Savaiinaea (Arizona) Sophomore ranked 2nd among all true freshman guards with a 76.0 pass-blocking grade.   LT Kelvin Banks Jr (Texas) Sophomore – managed to hold his own vs Will Anderson Jr entering 2023 NFL draft as the top player in the draft.  Banks dominated as a pass protector only allowing 3.5% pressure rate and 98.4 pass-block.  had a 80.8 PB and 89.3 RB grades in a zone-run scheme.  Week 7 allowed zero pressures and only 8 pressures all season (weeks 0-6). Has a 74.6 RB grade and an 88.0 PB grade week 7.  To-date has an 83.5 PB grade 5th best among Power 5 tackle.  2022 PFF TOW 4 offensive POW and earned TOW 6 and 7 honors   NT/IDL Deone Walker (Kentucky) Sophomore – in 2022 as a true freshman finished 3rd among SEC IDL with an 80.9 pass-rushing grade.  6’6” 330 LB at 19 yo beat O’Cyrus Torrence.   Edge Mykel Williams (Georgia) Sophomore 5th best returning edge defenders in college football.  Williams has a 75.9 run-defense grade ranked 4th among SEC edge defenders and led all FBS true freshman edge defenders.  His 6 sacks tied for the most among all true freshman in the country while his 33 pressures were tied for 2nd most.  Williams is a future first round pick.   WLB Abdul Carter (PSU) Sophomore freshman 56 tot, 6.5 sacks, 2 FF and 4 PDs   LCB Will Johnson (Michigan) Sophomore – as a true freshman led all corners in the Power 5 with a 91.1 grade in man coverage.  Johnson’s 2 INTs in man tied 5th same group in 2022.   IDL Dontay Corleone (Cincy) Sophomore – mid-way through 2022 he was 4th nationally with a 91.5 PFF grade making Ivan Pace Jr job on the field easier.  After 10 weeks Corleone has 41 TOT, 3 sacks, 1 FF, and 1 FR.  Freshman 93.9 DEF, 94.8 RDEF, 82.5 PRUSH, 61.8 COV.  led all FBS defenders with a 93.8 grade. His 94.7 run-defense grade was also the best mark by a front-seven defender since Micah Parsons in 2019 and recorded the 6th most run-stop (27) in 2022.  As a pass-rusher placed 8th among all defensive tackles in the country with a 15.6% pass-rush win rate.   MLB Harold Perkins Jr. (LSU) Sophomore - a 2022 top-10 recruit as an OLB, off-ball LB/SCB only allowed 4 yards in coverage in Week 11 (2022) vs Arkansas with 2 FF, had 7 pressures on 13 pass-rush reps 6 of which were a sack or hit on QB earning 93.8 grade.   CB Benjamin Morrison (ND) Sophomore – PFF Week 10 honors in 2022 – in Week 10 seen 13 targets in coverage allowing 3 first downs with an 2INT/1TD-Pick 6 vs Clemson earning a 90.5 coverage grade.  earned PFF Week 12 (2022) Defensive POW for second time in three weeks.  Picking off 3 passes and allowed 1 catch in shutout win over BC.  Saw 6 targets and gave up one for a 32-yard gain while earning a 91.9 PFF grade in press-man coverage.   RB Jaydn Ott – (Cal) Sophomore -As a freshman in 2022 after first 4 weeks owns the highest rushing grade in FBS 94.4 – 8.1 yards PA.  Ott finished off 2022 season with 897 rushing yards averaging 5.3 yards per carry and 8 rushing touchdowns.  He also caught 46 passes for 321 yards and added 3 more touchdowns as a receiver.  After first two games this season Ott already has 270 rushing yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.   CB Malaki Starks (Georgia) Sophomore – Former top-10 recruit.  As a freshman 2022-2023 after 2-3 weeks PFF graded 87.8 DEF, 81.1 RDEF, 65.9 PRUSH, 87.3 COV.  Finished with a 72.1 run-defense grade and was 3rd among true freshman safeties in the Power 5.  Starks recorded 8 combined INTs and * tied for 5th among SEC safeties in 2022.     
    • OhioColt
      OhioColts early college watchlist and potential FA targets breakdown

      By OhioColt · Posted

      Coleman transferred from Michigan State.  Agree he has showed strong hands making several tough catches in traffic and has impressive speed for his size.  Not sure we need another WR-Z like Alec Pierce who is signed until 2025.    Some other players have been interested in are:   RG Justin Osborne, SMU – best in zone, gap or man schemes – PFF early honorable mention before the season for the ACC.  Earned 2023 PFF TOW 1 honors.   LG Wesley Ndago, Air Force – PFF TOW 1 and 4 – 2023.   TE Benjamin Yurosek, Stanford - Displayed athletic ability making several tough catches.    SS Tyler Nubin, Minnesota - Got two top traits, football IQ and impressive ball production.  Versus Nebraska he had 2 picks earning PFF TOW 1 honors in 2023.   Edge Kaimon Rucker, North Carolina Tar Heels – 2022 PFF TOW 0 honors.  Rucker became first Tar Heel in 10-years to be named the Walker Camp Defensive Player of the Week.  Versus South Carolina he had 5.5 TFLs and 2 sacks.    LCB Josh Newton (TCU) - solid QB passer ratings, 56.4 in 2022 and 86.2 in 2021  LCB D.J. James (Auburn) - solid QB passer ratings, 61.3 in 2022 and 64.9 in 2021 
    • OLD FAN MAN
      Colts rams predictions

      By OLD FAN MAN · Posted

      stafford has a very quick release, dont know if we can pressure him
    • ojsglove
      The toughest of Minshew

      By ojsglove · Posted

      I agree that AR is our guy, that's obviously why we drafted him, lol.  Minshew performed as well, and better than many of the starters I've seen, so far in the first 2 games this season.  I think if AR can stay healthy, we are set at the QB position for a long time, but after today's game, I am comfortable with Minshew coming in.

  • Members

×
×
  • Create New...