Defjamz26 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 MODs it would be great if we could pin this. Its that time of year again. We can start keeping track of practice standouts. I guess we could also talk about the shrine game too. So far I think all of the measurements are out. I will post some that I think are meaningful. But, I’m glad the Senior Bowl is back. It’s my favorite pre-draft event. This is an interesting year too with all but one of the top 6 QBs present, and all the top 6-8 TEs besides one represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 TE measurements Two inches taller than he was listed I think he’s a sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCurtis Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Thanks for posting The TE group has some decent folks I hope we go after one in round 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 This seems like a relatively good TE class... I wouldn't mind it if we drafted one... and relatively high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stitches Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Wish they were showing the practices somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewColtsFan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 hours ago, stitches said: This seems like a relatively good TE class... I wouldn't mind it if we drafted one... and relatively high. My reading says this…. A very strong class of Day 2 and Day 3 TE’s. Maybe one might go in the first? Wydemeyer or McBride, but unlikely that both would. So, if we’re looking R’s 2-5, we might find just what we’re looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaColts85 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Ruckert or Kolar would be good pickups. Can block and catch. Big bodies that can be a nice replacement for Doyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 hours ago, stitches said: Wish they were showing the practices somewhere. It’s not on NFL Network this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Wow I didn’t even realize the senior bowl was going on, gonna have to take some time to look at the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewColtsFan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said: It’s not on NFL Network this year? Im not sure what they’re doing live, and what they’re doing taped. I looked mid-morning West Coast time and nothing. But later in the afternoon, there was a taped one hour day one recap. I’m NOT saying that’s all they’re doing, only that’s all I saw on Day One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 Strong is showing out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 Here’s some WR vs DB I really like Akayleb Evans. He broke up both passes. Also has the length Ballard likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernColt Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 FYI its airing on the following: Wednesday Feb 2nd: 12:30 to 2:30pm - National Team - ESPNU 3pm to 5pm - American Team - ESPN2 8pm to 9pm - Recap Show - NFL NETWORK Thursday Feb 3rd: 12:30 to 2:30pm - National Team - ESPNU 3pm to 5pm - American Team - ESPN2 5pm: Shriners Bowl Game - NFL NETWORK Following Shriners - Recap Show - NFL NETWORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Here are the official measurements from the Senior Bowl. I will post the OT's measurements that IMO fit what Ballard likely is looking for(taking into account his statements from last year that they didn't think many of the OTs were fitting their mold(i.e. they had too short arms). For all intents and purposes I will be counting everything over 34" arms as a good fit, we can watch the tapes later and determine if they truly project as OTs in the league: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022-reeses-senior-bowl-bowl-weigh-in-measurement-results T Abe Lucas, Washington State Height: 6'6″ Weight: 322Arm Length: 34 5/8″ Wingspan: 81 3/8″ Hand: 10 3/8″ T Andrew Stueber, Michigan Height: 6'6″ Weight: 327Arm Length: 34 1/8″ Wingspan: 81 3/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Braxton Jones, Southern Utah Height: 6'5″ Weight: 306Arm Length: 36″ !!! Wingspan: 84 1/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Cade Mays, Tennessee Height: 6'4″ Weight: 321Arm Length: 34 1/4″ Wingspan: 82 3/8″ Hand: 9 7/8″ T Chris Paul, Tulsa Height: 6’3” Weight: 324Arm Length: 34” Wingspan: 82 1/4” Hand: 9 3/8” T Daniel Faalele, Minnesota Height: 6’8” Weight: 387Arm Length: 35 3/8” Wingspan: 86 1/4” Hand: 11” Faalele is HUGE and has really long arms. I have to watch him. He seems to be one that might be there for us to draft. T Darian Kinnard, Kentucky Height: 6’5” Weight: 324Arm Length: 34 5/8” Wingspan: 83” Hand: 11 1/2” Kinnard -another possible option for us in the second. T Jamaree Salyer, Georgia Height: 6’2” Weight: 320Arm Length: 34” Wingspan: 80” Hand: 9 1/2” T Matt Waletzko, North Dakota Height: 6'6″ Weight: 310Arm Length: 35 1/8″ Wingspan: 85 3/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Spencer Burford, UTSA Height: 6’3″ Weight: 293Arm Length: 34 1/4″ Wingspan: 82 1/4″ Hand: 9 1/2″ T Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa Height: 6’6″ Weight: 330Arm Length: 34 3/4″ Wingspan: 83 5/8″ Hand: 10 1/4″ Seems like a ton of OL prospects covered the 34" arm threshold. No idea if they were generous when measuring... I will need them to be confirmed at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 And here are the CBs that cover the 32" arm threshold: CB Akayleb Evans, Missouri Height: 6'2″ Weight: 201Arm Length: 32 3/8″ Wingspan: 74 5/8″ Hand: 8 3/4″ CB Jaylen Watson, Washington State Height: 5’10” Weight: 197Arm Length: 32 5/8” Wingspan: 76 5/8” Hand: 9 1/2” CB Joshua Williams, Fayetteville State (N.C.) [Div. 2] Height: 6'2″ Weight: 193Arm Length: 32 1/4″ Wingspan: 78 1/8″ Hand: 9 1/4″ CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA Height: 6’3″ Weight: 205Arm Length: 33 1/2″ Wingspan: 79″ Hand: 8 5/8″ Not many CBs with long arms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, stitches said: Here are the official measurements from the Senior Bowl. I will post the OT's measurements that IMO fit what Ballard likely is looking for(taking into account his statements from last year that they didn't think many of the OTs were fitting their mold(i.e. they had too short arms). For all intents and purposes I will be counting everything over 34" arms as a good fit, we can watch the tapes later and determine if they truly project as OTs in the league: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022-reeses-senior-bowl-bowl-weigh-in-measurement-results T Abe Lucas, Washington State Height: 6'6″ Weight: 322Arm Length: 34 5/8″ Wingspan: 81 3/8″ Hand: 10 3/8″ T Andrew Stueber, Michigan Height: 6'6″ Weight: 327Arm Length: 34 1/8″ Wingspan: 81 3/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Braxton Jones, Southern Utah Height: 6'5″ Weight: 306Arm Length: 36″ !!! Wingspan: 84 1/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Cade Mays, Tennessee Height: 6'4″ Weight: 321Arm Length: 34 1/4″ Wingspan: 82 3/8″ Hand: 9 7/8″ T Chris Paul, Tulsa Height: 6’3” Weight: 324Arm Length: 34” Wingspan: 82 1/4” Hand: 9 3/8” T Daniel Faalele, Minnesota Height: 6’8” Weight: 387Arm Length: 35 3/8” Wingspan: 86 1/4” Hand: 11” Faalele is HUGE and has really long arms. I have to watch him. He seems to be one that might be there for us to draft. T Darian Kinnard, Kentucky Height: 6’5” Weight: 324Arm Length: 34 5/8” Wingspan: 83” Hand: 11 1/2” Kinnard -another possible option for us in the second. T Jamaree Salyer, Georgia Height: 6’2” Weight: 320Arm Length: 34” Wingspan: 80” Hand: 9 1/2” T Matt Waletzko, North Dakota Height: 6'6″ Weight: 310Arm Length: 35 1/8″ Wingspan: 85 3/4″ Hand: 10 1/8″ T Spencer Burford, UTSA Height: 6’3″ Weight: 293Arm Length: 34 1/4″ Wingspan: 82 1/4″ Hand: 9 1/2″ T Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa Height: 6’6″ Weight: 330Arm Length: 34 3/4″ Wingspan: 83 5/8″ Hand: 10 1/4″ Seems like a ton of OL prospects covered the 34" arm threshold. No idea if they were generous when measuring... I will need them to be confirmed at the combine. From what I’ve read, Faalele had a bad first day of practice. Said he can swallow up smaller rushers, but the rest of his game is a mess. Reminds of Zach Banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta519 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I hope all of these QBs show out and then teams forget about Corral. Heard from a source (myself) that the Colts really like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta519 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, stitches said: And here are the CBs that cover the 32" arm threshold: CB Akayleb Evans, Missouri Height: 6'2″ Weight: 201Arm Length: 32 3/8″ Wingspan: 74 5/8″ Hand: 8 3/4″ CB Jaylen Watson, Washington State Height: 5’10” Weight: 197Arm Length: 32 5/8” Wingspan: 76 5/8” Hand: 9 1/2” CB Joshua Williams, Fayetteville State (N.C.) [Div. 2] Height: 6'2″ Weight: 193Arm Length: 32 1/4″ Wingspan: 78 1/8″ Hand: 9 1/4″ CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA Height: 6’3″ Weight: 205Arm Length: 33 1/2″ Wingspan: 79″ Hand: 8 5/8″ Not many CBs with long arms... Even without the arm length, Joshua Williams sounds like a Ballard pick if I have ever seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Trevor Penning looks the best out of the OTs so far... Abe Lucas with a couple of good reps against the Cincinatti EDGE Myjai Sanders, who is being projected as a day 2 prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Ridder looked good in 7v7... Kenny Picket fumbled a center exchange under center... he had 7 fumbles this season, lost 4. This is part of the reason why teams are worried about hand size - it presents problems for QB's ball security. And just as I said that, Ridder threw a duck on the swing pass... kind of ugly.... followed by a good tight window throw... that's kind of the Ridder experience I remembered from last year - some intriguing things mixed in with some ugly stuff throughout his tape. Carson Strong sailed a clean TD pass down the seam. I'm not sure any QB is looking great so far. All are kind of a mixed bag. (worth pointing out it's raining) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 American team's practice is live on ESPN2. Watching it now... I want to see the QBs... and Tolbert and Calvin Austin III from the WRs... and a few of the OTs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Oh my! Tolbert! That was nice release didn't even get touched I think and the defender was in press-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Malik Willis looks like the best QB on the field today. Making plays both with his arm and with his feet. The ball comes out different from his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 Jeremy Ruckert may be surpassing Tre McBride as TE1. He catches everything and he’s been bullying Jalen Pitre. Dude is freaking huge too. 25 minutes ago, stitches said: Malik Willis looks like the best QB on the field today. Making plays both with his arm and with his feet. The ball comes out different from his arm. I don’t think he would make it past the Colts. Ballard loves those traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Overseas Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: Jeremy Ruckert may be surpassing Tre McBride as TE1. He catches everything and he’s been bullying Jalen Pitre. Dude is freaking huge too. I don’t think he would make it past the Colts. Ballard loves those traits. Plays physical too in the run game. He would take Doyle’s role and be an upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 48 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: Jeremy Ruckert may be surpassing Tre McBride as TE1. He catches everything and he’s been bullying Jalen Pitre. Dude is freaking huge too. I don’t think he would make it past the Colts. Ballard loves those traits. I was just thinking how uninspiring this QB class is. At least the ones I have watched. This is both on tape and on the field at the Senior bowl. Except for... Willis... he's a true outlier here in every way possible. I don't think any of the other QBs have anything they can do at an exceptional level in the NFL. Willis actually has some truly exceptional traits that I think can hold up even in the league(athleticism, arm, big play ability - both with his arm and with his legs). And then... then I started looking at PFF's heat-charts from the QBs... It's so interesting to see where those QBs excel and where they need work. And if you look at those... again... Willis's heat chart just jumps straight at you as something not quite like the others. It legitimate can be part of one of those "what's not like the others?" questions... it's so striking - he is the only QB in this draft that is above average throwing outside the numbers both left and right.... all the other ones are below average(Howell is above average to the right but below average to the left). Some excel in the short game(Corral), some have mixed success with clear right handside lean(Howell), some are great in the middle of the field(Pickett), some love the seams(Ridder)... but only one of them is exceptional outside the numbers... on both sides of the field. Now some worrying things about Willis - average time to throw is really high(5th highest in the entire country), probably lacks feel for in rhythm execution of the offense. He's a bit of ... hero ball player. But he's exquisite doing it. It's so weird that I like him because he does some of the exact things I hate about Wentz - holds the ball, no rhtyhm to his game, trouble hitting the simple play... I don't know... I will keep watching him, but Willis definitely feels like the guy that has the highest upside of anyone in this draft. Now the question is - do you trust your coaches to develop him and focus his wild tendencies into a productive direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted February 3, 2022 Author Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 hours ago, stitches said: I was just thinking how uninspiring this QB class is. At least the ones I have watched. This is both on tape and on the field at the Senior bowl. Except for... Willis... he's a true outlier here in every way possible. I don't think any of the other QBs have anything they can do at an exceptional level in the NFL. Willis actually has some truly exceptional traits that I think can hold up even in the league(athleticism, arm, big play ability - both with his arm and with his legs). And then... then I started looking at PFF's heat-charts from the QBs... It's so interesting to see where those QBs excel and where they need work. And if you look at those... again... Willis's heat chart just jumps straight at you as something not quite like the others. It legitimate can be part of one of those "what's not like the others?" questions... it's so striking - he is the only QB in this draft that is above average throwing outside the numbers both left and right.... all the other ones are below average(Howell is above average to the right but below average to the left). Some excel in the short game(Corral), some have mixed success with clear right handside lean(Howell), some are great in the middle of the field(Pickett), some love the seams(Ridder)... but only one of them is exceptional outside the numbers... on both sides of the field. Now some worrying things about Willis - average time to throw is really high(5th highest in the entire country), probably lacks feel for in rhythm execution of the offense. He's a bit of ... hero ball player. But he's exquisite doing it. It's so weird that I like him because he does some of the exact things I hate about Wentz - holds the ball, no rhtyhm to his game, trouble hitting the simple play... I don't know... I will keep watching him, but Willis definitely feels like the guy that has the highest upside of anyone in this draft. Now the question is - do you trust your coaches to develop him and focus his wild tendencies into a productive direction? I think that’s what you have to go for nowadays. There’s no way you watch that Bills and KC Divisional round game and then say “Yeah man Sam Howell can get me to the Super Bowl”. You need the aliens. You need the guy that’s just different than everyone else, and it shows. Say what you want about Lamar Jackson but he’s in that conversation as well. Mahomes, Allen, Prescott, Lamar, Watson. That’s what you’re looking for. The guy with the “wow” factor. In this class, Malik is it. He’s the guy that makes the opposing DC nervous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 22 hours ago, stitches said: And here are the CBs that cover the 32" arm threshold: CB Akayleb Evans, Missouri Height: 6'2″ Weight: 201Arm Length: 32 3/8″ Wingspan: 74 5/8″ Hand: 8 3/4″ CB Jaylen Watson, Washington State Height: 5’10” Weight: 197Arm Length: 32 5/8” Wingspan: 76 5/8” Hand: 9 1/2” CB Joshua Williams, Fayetteville State (N.C.) [Div. 2] Height: 6'2″ Weight: 193Arm Length: 32 1/4″ Wingspan: 78 1/8″ Hand: 9 1/4″ CB Tariq Woolen, UTSA Height: 6’3″ Weight: 205Arm Length: 33 1/2″ Wingspan: 79″ Hand: 8 5/8″ Not many CBs with long arms... I am of the feeling that given the success of Isaiah Rodgers for the Colts, they may be fine with a ball hawking CB that does not exactly meet the long arms requirements if he can ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, chad72 said: I am of the feeling that given the success of Isaiah Rodgers for the Colts, they may be fine with a ball hawking CB that does not exactly meet the long arms requirements if he can ball out. Rodgers meets the requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, stitches said: Rodgers meets the requirements. Hmmm...I didn't know that. I just find it hard to believe that if someone like Roger McCreary is there at No.47 (say), the Colts would pass up because he doesn't have the long arms they covet in him. With a new DC, they may mix and match different kind of CBs. Plus, Kenny Moore doesn't fit those measurements, so does it apply only to outside corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernColt Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I'm all for Willis. Although we're going to have to move up if we do want him. But I'd be all for it. Gotta take risk for one of the highest ceilings in the draft. Side note, I'm a big fan of Abe Lucas. I also like Boye Mafe and Perrion Winfrey on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, chad72 said: Hmmm...I didn't know that. I just find it hard to believe that if someone like Roger McCreary is there at No.47 (say), the Colts would pass up because he doesn't have the long arms they covet in him. With a new DC, they may mix and match different kind of CBs. Plus, Kenny Moore doesn't fit those measurements, so does it apply only to outside corners? Kenny Moore meets the requirements too... 32 5/8" measured at his pro day. Here's Rodgers ones: I bet it's not a completely set in stone requirement and there is some nuance there but the player probably needs to hit a lot of their other requirements to be considered if he's not at least close to 32"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, stitches said: Kenny Moore meets the requirements too... 32 5/8" measured at his pro day. Here's Rodgers ones: I bet it's not a completely set in stone requirement and there is some nuance there but the player probably needs to hit a lot of their other requirements to be considered if he's not at least close to 32"... Man, sites vary so much. I looked up another site, it said Kenny Moore was somewhere around 31 and a half. Oh well... I am curious to see how this ball hawking corner's measurements show up as: I look at this Appalachian State cornerback, Steven Jones Jr., led the nation in pick six INT TDs, a definite ball hawking CB. https://appstatesports.com/sports/football/roster/steven-jones-jr-/6662 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, chad72 said: Man, sites vary so much. I looked up another site, it said Kenny Moore was somewhere around 31 and a half. Oh well... I am curious to see how this ball hawking corner's measurements show up as: I look at this Appalachian State cornerback, Steven Jones Jr., led the nation in pick six INT TDs, a definite ball hawking CB. https://appstatesports.com/sports/football/roster/steven-jones-jr-/6662 No idea? Is he at the Senior bowl? Doesn't seem like he is. Also not at the Shrine bowl... maybe he's not an NFL level prospect... no idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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