Tom Brady Retiring after 22 Seasons

[chad72]

5 hours ago, shakedownstreet said:

 

He is working on his next venture "The Crypto gate"  

[Superman]

13 hours ago, chad72 said:

 

When you have 5 or 6 big tweets with plenty of run for the Bucs, I am sure the Patriots fans would have appreciated a few kind words for them. It is odd, nevertheless.

 

It obviously drew a lot of attention for that reason. And he probably could have dropped a simple line to show that they weren't forgotten or purposely omitted. But I think he intended to acknowledge Pats fans in a different way.

[Superman]

I was just wondering 'where's all the coverage of Brady's event in New England?' Looked it up, and apparently the "report" was false. Kind of crazy...

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/02/01/report-regarding-tom-brady-patriots-one-day-contract-false

 

Doesn't mean something else won't be happening at some point. 

[Gramz]

52 minutes ago, Superman said:

I was just wondering 'where's all the coverage of Brady's event in New England?' Looked it up, and apparently the "report" was false. Kind of crazy...

 

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/02/01/report-regarding-tom-brady-patriots-one-day-contract-false

 

Doesn't mean something else won't be happening at some point. 

And the drama continues 

[Superman]

And now there are reports that Kraft is upset with Brady's retirement announcement. So it's starting to feel weird, and...

 

[Gramz]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

And now there are reports that Kraft is upset with Brady's retirement announcement. So it's starting to feel weird, and...

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, Gramz said:

[GoPats]

On 2/1/2022 at 9:27 AM, Gramz said:

I fully believe he is retiring.

 

I fully believe he intended to wait to announce AFTER February 4th ($15 mil bonus)

 

I fully believe someone close to him "leaked" this to the media.

 

I fully believe he's ticked off it was leaked.

 

I fully believe media was disrespectful towards him (by not letting him break the news).

 

And lastly, I fully agree with you that he should be the one to announce this, yes he's deserved it.   

 

I, of course, could be wrong on all accounts. 

 

Hard to disagree with any of that even if I wanted to. (And I don't!) 

 

 

[Gramz]

[Gramz]

3 hours ago, GoPats said:

 

Hard to disagree with any of that even if I wanted to. (And I don't!) 

 

 

What is your take on the NE omission in his statement?  

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, GoPats said:

 

Hard to disagree with any of that even if I wanted to. (And I don't!) 

 

 

I had a feeling he was going to retire around mid season, the Bucs just didn't look right all season. Tom was still was great but the team in general wasn't healthy and the crap Brown pulled didn't help either. I like Arians but he is a hot head too. Tom is the GOAT, then you have guys like Peyton and Montana of course. Tom had nothing else to prove, 7 SB wins almost seems laughable. I miss the days when Tom and Peyton went at it. I lived for those games.

[Chrisaaron1023]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I had a feeling he was going to retire around mid season, the Bucs just didn't look right all season. Tom was still was great but the team in general wasn't healthy and the crap Brown pulled didn't help either. I like Arians but he is a hot head too. Tom is the GOAT, then you have guys like Peyton and Montana of course. Tom had nothing else to prove, 7 SB wins almost seems laughable. I miss the days when Tom and Peyton went at it. I lived for those games.

Mmhmm I'm sure the moment Tom knew he was going to retire was during the jets game. Word got out, and Antonio Brown said, you aint leaving before me fan!

[GoPats]

On 2/3/2022 at 6:53 PM, Gramz said:

What is your take on the NE omission in his statement?  

 

Honestly, I've been so tired of the drama since Wickersham's story a few years ago that I could care less. Tom Brady doesn't owe me anything as a Patriots fan. There is clearly some bitterness between him and Belichick that will linger for some time. I think, in the end, and given some time, it'll be amicable enough. 

 

Interestingly enough, in the midst of all this, Belichick finally acknowledged Brady's status in NFL history:

 

https://twitter.com/Patriots/status/1489037044017946630

 

And Brady responded by calling him "the greatest coach in NFL history." 

 

There's obviously not a lot of love there, but there's still respect. 

 

[GoPats]

On 2/3/2022 at 7:39 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I had a feeling he was going to retire around mid season, the Bucs just didn't look right all season. Tom was still was great but the team in general wasn't healthy and the crap Brown pulled didn't help either. I like Arians but he is a hot head too. Tom is the GOAT, then you have guys like Peyton and Montana of course. Tom had nothing else to prove, 7 SB wins almost seems laughable. I miss the days when Tom and Peyton went at it. I lived for those games.

 

I don't know how well Brady was getting along with Arians by the end. We'll probably never find out. But I would have been shocked if he retired mid-season, short of some sort of injury situation. 

 

[FortheWin]

35 minutes ago, GoPats said:

 

Honestly, I've been so tired of the drama since Wickersham's story a few years ago that I could care less. Tom Brady doesn't owe me anything as a Patriots fan. There is clearly some bitterness between him and Belichick that will linger for some time. I think, in the end, and given some time, it'll be amicable enough. 

 

Interestingly enough, in the midst of all this, Belichick finally acknowledged Brady's status in NFL history:

 

https://twitter.com/Patriots/status/1489037044017946630

 

And Brady responded by calling him "the greatest coach in NFL history." 

 

There's obviously not a lot of love there, but there's still respect. 

 

When you let the greatest QB of all time go, you don't get to dictate his retirement.  That is probably what is tough for Kraft right now.  Peyton only associates with the Broncos and lives in Colorado.  It is really sad and tough for his Colts fans.  But Denver showed him a lot of love for 4 years.  Same as Tom with Tampa for 2 years.  

 

I agree though that Kraft probably smooths things over and Brady is not the type to hold grudges either so in time, it will work itself out.

[chad72]

14 minutes ago, FortheWin said:

When you let the greatest QB of all time go, you don't get to dictate his retirement.  That is probably what is tough for Kraft right now.  Peyton only associates with the Broncos and lives in Colorado.  It is really sad and tough for his Colts fans.  But Denver showed him a lot of love for 4 years.  Same as Tom with Tampa for 2 years.  

 

I agree though that Kraft probably smooths things over and Brady is not the type to hold grudges either so in time, it will work itself out.

 

Peyton does associate with his time with the Colts, so that is not an accurate statement. He lives in Colorado because his wife and kids like it there and he loves it there. His work with the Children's Hospital in Indy still continues with his visits, and his Colts related activities he is invited to, he still shows up with his former teammates here. 

 

The relationship however was complicated by Irsay's tweets which were misconstrued / rightfully interpreted (depends on who you ask) as a veiled shot at Peyton and Polian for having just 1 SB during the Colts days. Kraft or Belichick didn't make any public statements to jeopardize their public standing with Brady compared to that, IMO.

[FortheWin]

25 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Peyton does associate with his time with the Colts, so that is not an accurate statement. He lives in Colorado because his wife and kids like it there and he loves it there. His work with the Children's Hospital in Indy still continues with his visits, and his Colts related activities he is invited to, he still shows up with his former teammates here. 

 

The relationship however was complicated by Irsay's tweets which were misconstrued / rightfully interpreted (depends on who you ask) as a veiled shot at Peyton and Polian for having just 1 SB during the Colts days. Kraft or Belichick didn't make any public statements to jeopardize their public standing with Brady compared to that, IMO.

Yes, didn't mean to make it sound like he does not speak with the Colts at all but you agree, he sees himself as a bronco?  I mean every time I hear him speak, he refers to the Broncos as "we."

[chad72]

26 minutes ago, FortheWin said:

Yes, didn't mean to make it sound like he does not speak with the Colts at all but you agree, he sees himself as a bronco?  I mean every time I hear him speak, he refers to the Broncos as "we."

 

I would say 4 years with 2 SB appearances is a longer time for emotional investment compared to 2 years in Tampa. Plus he has business interests in the Broncos ownership too, and trust me, Peyton is an excellent politician when it comes to his mind, about saying the right things. If he is going to be a minority owner in the Broncos at some point in time, he has to line his ducks right. He is not going to have a chance in the ownership of the Colts whatsoever because he knows Irsay's daughters and family are fully engaged and invested in it, unlike with Bowlen's family after his death. 

[FortheWin]

3 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

I would say 4 years with 2 SB appearances is a longer time for emotional investment compared to 2 years in Tampa. Plus he has business interests in the Broncos ownership too, and trust me, Peyton is an excellent politician when it comes to his mind, about saying the right things. If he is going to be a minority owner in the Broncos at some point in time, he has to line his ducks right. He is not going to have a chance in the ownership of the Colts whatsoever because he knows Irsay's daughters and family are fully engaged and invested in it, unlike with Bowlen's family after his death. 

I don't think it is a "time" issue though.  Brady felt betrayed by Kraft in particular and Bill also.  He had just delivered the 6th ring, outdueled Mahomes in KC and did not get an extension despite the Patriots not having a QB successor.  He wanted to finish his career there and it was odd that he didn't get that chance. Then Tampa rolls out the red carpet for him and they win the SB in year one.  So I think in Tom's mind, he is identifying with the team that did not give up on him when he championship football left.  This has to be brutal for Pats fans but that is what happens when you let a legacy player go.  

 

I agree about Peyton.  The Broncos are a better match for him if his plans are to own but also similar to Tom, he feels a stronger connection to them. 

[GoPats]

On 2/7/2022 at 12:20 PM, FortheWin said:

I don't think it is a "time" issue though.  Brady felt betrayed by Kraft in particular and Bill also.  He had just delivered the 6th ring, outdueled Mahomes in KC and did not get an extension despite the Patriots not having a QB successor.  He wanted to finish his career there and it was odd that he didn't get that chance. Then Tampa rolls out the red carpet for him and they win the SB in year one.  So I think in Tom's mind, he is identifying with the team that did not give up on him when he championship football left.  This has to be brutal for Pats fans but that is what happens when you let a legacy player go.  

 

I agree about Peyton.  The Broncos are a better match for him if his plans are to own but also similar to Tom, he feels a stronger connection to them. 

 

I think, by the end, Brady was just tired of Belichick's methods, and it wasn't fun to play anymore. When you combine that with how he consistently played on under-market contracts, I can see why it all went down the way it did. 

 

I'm not bitter or angry about any of it, honestly. As a fan I was treated to 20 fantastic years (and I'm old enough to remember when they were a laughingstock). We always knew it wouldn't last forever, but it did go on a lot longer than I thought. If I'd told you in 2002 that Brady would help the Patriots win 5 more SBs, and then another with Tampa, it wouldn't have helped my credibility. 

[King Colt]

Like flying saucers, I'll believe it when I see it.