Colts/Bucs Post Game Reaction (Merge)

[JediXMan]

I had a feeling those under throws we’re going to eventually backfire on the Colts. I thought it was PI at first but Pittman should’ve fought harder to prevent the pick.

[CR91]

9 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

Actually you could say Frank calling 20 straight throws did contribute to a couple of the turnovers. Strip sacks and INT's tend to happen when the other team knows your going to throw it every down.

 

That is not what happened. RPOs are basically designed runs with the option to throw which are similar to run plays because a lot of them are screens.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Btown_Colt said:

It’s not complicated man, yes passing was work8mg, doesn’t mean you completely stop running. Hell the Bucs kept running and they were trailing

The Colts also weren’t stopping it like the Bucs were stopping the Colts.

[Aaron86]

17 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Frank didn’t turn the ball over four times.

 No but he needs to start acting like the coach and make adjustments. Not running your mvp caliber back until 6 min left in the game? Those turnovers probably would not have happened if we would have ran the ball. 

[Solon]

Whenever you're up double digits and lose, it's on the coach. It doesn't matter which sport you're talking about. Football, basketball, soccer or baseball. 3 games with blown double digit leads is unacceptable. However, my first game in Indy and had fun. I will definitely come back next season.

 

[bestQBever]

We are constantly one year away from being one year away. Feels so bad

[Luck is Good]

6 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

So what about in the first half when he adjusted from the game plan because they were pounding the ball into a brick wall and used the passing game to score 24 points.  Had he stuck with the run and not scored people would have been all over him for not adjusting when the run wasn’t working.  Yes he could have mixed a few more runs in there but ball security was a much bigger issue than the play calling.

Same could be said for the second half. Why didn’t he adjust to the Buccaneers expecting pass plays? Ball security definitely sucked. No debating that. Just can’t go all in on an air raid. There was no point of that

[Colt Overseas]

I really think we needed to use Taylor in the 3Q more. We were up by 10 points. even if Taylor was getting just 3 or 4 yard runs, at least it allowed us to protect the ball and control the game. The passing game felt unsustainable by the second half, we kept drives going by converting a couple of times on 3rd and long. The second last drive, Olsen was basically laughing that 3rd and long suited us. Then on the last drive we ran the ball at will.

 

I think Frank really needs to have the mentality in his head.. up by double digits, run the ball with Taylor, control the game.

[Btown_Colt]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

The Colts also weren’t stopping it like the Bucs were stopping the Colts.

Lol ok you got it. You & Doug are sooo smart.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Aaron86 said:

 No but he needs to start acting like the coach and make adjustments. Not running your mvp caliber back until 6 min left in the game? Those turnovers probably would not have happened if we would have ran the ball. 

You mean adjustments like when you come out and try to run and it doesn’t work and your first three positions go three and out and you come back and go to the pass and put up 21 in the second quarter?

 

He did adjust and his adjustments were working until Fisher missed a block badly, Winfield made an amazing play, Hines muffed a punt and Pascal didn’t secure the ball.  Those are all player mistakes not bad play calls.

[Mr.Debonair]

No they have sentimental value and Pascal blocks well

 

 

Oh and Campbell is close too lol

[smittywerb]

8 minutes ago, Les Poulains said:

People will blame Reich here and yeah it's in part his fault, but he played the matchup. The Bucs have a strong run defense and a bad pass defense. This is unfortunately another example that we can't rely on Wentz to throw it a lot and win us a big game. He will mess up at some point, and he did. Shame.

 

But yes, it's also true that JT is the best right now and he was averaging over yards per carry. There was not a big reason not take the ball out of his hands.

 

 

So you're saying we play away from our strength into our own weakness?  No, this goes back to my comment of punching them in the mouth.  It's football.  We're good at what we do because we're good at what we do.  They're the number one run defense and we have the second best rb in the league, then let's show them why he's the second best.  Not get scared and say forget it.  That's playing scared and you can't do that.  Taylor did not get one touch in the 3rd qtr while the offense choked.  We didn't even give the run a chance to not work.

[JediXMan]

Hilton is going to retire I think anyways. He’s been having convos with Luck about it.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I don’t like our record at home at all. Pascal is having a awful year. Need to upgrade him next year. Pittman started off so bad. 
 

Broncos are up 7-0 on LA. If Broncos can hang on colts didn’t lose any ground today except Raiders are now one game ahead.

[Btown_Colt]

And Hines should never return another punt. Constantly makes bad decisions or muffs a fair catch.

[coltsfan_canada]

Just now, Mr.Debonair said:

No they have sentimental value and Pascal blocks well

same value we had for Adam Vinatieri

[bestQBever]

We need to miraculously acquire Davante Adams this offseason

[John Waylon]

1 minute ago, #12. said:

 

He calls an unnecessarily panicked game at times.  I don't care what is working or not, you have to rein it in at times.

Not just that, over that duration to start the 2nd half how many of those passes were completed? Had to be less than 50%. And we didn’t score until we (*long, awkward pause*) ran the ball on them in the 4th quarter, so how well was it working out for us?
 

0 points, at least 2 turnovers, very few completions, and even less 1st downs when the game turned into that. 

 

And we go from leading by 10 to losing by 4…

 

Hm. I wonder why that might be. 
 

 

 

[Dobbinblitz]

The pass interference called on the Colts in the 4th quarter in the end zone was complete and utter garbage. Should have been offensive. Arians and Brady were in the refs ear all game. Frank should have all the way down the sideline on that critical call. 

 

[#12.]

3 minutes ago, colts89 said:

They were pass aggressive and that is  LITERALLY what lost the game for them since they got the two turnovers on short fields 

 

 

Two of the 3 turnovers on offense were still pretty long fields.  Nyheim gave them the short one.

[smittywerb]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

You mean adjustments like when you come out and try to run and it doesn’t work and your first three positions go three and out and you come back and go to the pass and put up 21 in the second quarter?

 

He did adjust and his adjustments were working until Fisher missed a block badly, Winfield made an amazing play, Hines muffed a punt and Pascal didn’t secure the ball.  Those are all player mistakes not bad play calls.

 

 

So what adjustments did he make in the 3rd qtr to keep us ahead?  Did you see any adjustments there?

[Btown_Colt]

Just now, Dobbinblitz said:

The pass interference called on the Colts in the 4th quarter in the end zone was complete and utter garbage. Should have been offensive. Arians and Brady were in the refs ear all game. Frank should have all the way down the sideline on that critical call. 

 

The PI’s were definitely tricky tacky. I agree about the one in the end zone too, brate pushed off a couple times. 

[Happy2BeHere]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

You mean adjustments like when you come out and try to run and it doesn’t work and your first three positions go three and out and you come back and go to the pass and put up 21 in the second quarter?

 

He did adjust and his adjustments were working until Fisher missed a block badly, Winfield made an amazing play, Hines muffed a punt and Pascal didn’t secure the ball.  Those are all player mistakes not bad play calls.

What are you talking about? Clearly bad play calling is entirely the reason for it. Frank should have called a different play that a turnover wouldn’t happen on 

[JediXMan]

Now we get to see Brady smug face with those cheesy  postgame twitter videos.

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I will agree with a ten point half time lead we should of mixed more runs in but that isn’t what cost us the game.

[bsteves]

20 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Pittman had that deep ball and the defender just basically pulled him away. That was a huge play and should of been pti.  I am ok with this loss because we proved we are pretty damn good and can beat anyone.

 

Defense has to do better at end of games like that too.

 

I thought for sure yellow flags were going to start flying..

[EastStreet]

11 minutes ago, DougDew said:

There is no spin.  The fact is that we scored 24 points in the first half of the game by not running JT and by passing.  

 

People are reacting like Frank called JT a lot in the first half, scored 24, then abandoned JT in the second half to let the Bucs back in.  Talk about bias and spin, LOL.

 

I agree, 22 consecutive passes is extreme though.

Taylor ran 8 times in the 1H, and kept the D at least honest. He should have got edge runs, but Frank failed to adjust and ran him into a 5 man double A-gap run rush. 

 

Anyone with any sense of honest logic combined with basic football sense knows you don't abandon the run when up two scores when you have one of the best RBs in the league. It wasn't magic that running the ball worked in the 4th. 

 

Someone said it was 28 passes. It was beyond extreme. It was extreme dumb.

 

[John Waylon]

1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

I don’t like our record at home at all. 

When your coach pulls some % like he did today it doesn’t matter if you play at home, away, or on Mars. That doesn’t win games. 
 

And interestingly enough, it hasn’t all season…

[DougDew]

10 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

So he didn't know Taylor was good? Until late 4Q?

No.  Obviously he's too dumb.

 

Frank's so dumb that he should have run him more in the first half too.  We may have scored 34 points instead of 24 pts.

 

[chad72]

Ballard needs to wise up and invest in a quality WR and TE via free agency and/or the draft. We don’t have a Manning or Brady to make the WRs better, they just need to have a high floor right off college or in free agency.

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, Luck is Good said:

Same could be said for the second half. Why didn’t he adjust to the Buccaneers expecting pass plays? Ball security definitely sucked. No debating that. Just can’t go all in on an air raid. There was no point of that

He did adjust and it’s not like the Bucs were shutting the Colts passing game down.  fisher missed a block and Winfield made a heck of a play on a okay that even the announcers said you throw that pass 100 times out of 100.  They also had a muff by Hines in there.  Beyond that they were still driving the ball.  I’ve also said they could have mixed in a few more runs BUT the bigger issue than that was the turnovers.  

[Solid84]

25 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Turnovers and a couple bad officiating calls cost us this game. Done want to hear about Reich. Reich didn’t cause the strip sack or make the no call on Pittman.

 

I am proud. We hung with Tampa so we shouldn’t be down.

 

We need more receiving threats.

I'm not. 3rd game this season we should have won but threw away...

[#12.]

When the ball was strip sacked, 98% of the posters here knew we were losing.  

[JediXMan]

3 minutes ago, Btown_Colt said:

And Hines should never return another punt. Constantly makes bad decisions or muffs a fair catch.

how many fumbles does he have though?

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

 

 

So what adjustments did he make in the 3rd qtr to keep us ahead?  Did you see any adjustments there?

They were moving the ball at will in the third quarter until Fisher missed a block and Winfield made a heck of play.  It’s not like what they were doing wasn’t working.  

[EastStreet]

15 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Well since three of them were fumbles and one came when the offense wasn’t even on the field I don’t think passing too much was as big of an issue as ball security.  It’s not like Wentz was throwing bad passes.  The one pick he had was an amazing play by Winfield.

• We got one dimensional, and TB knew what was coming
• If we had balance, it's highly likely that at least one of the 3 passing game turnovers wouldn't have happened.

This wasn't on Wentz at all. But going pass crazy creates more opportunity for turnovers.

[smittywerb]

Just now, #12. said:

When the ball was strip sacked, 98% of the posters here knew we were losing.  

 

 

That was a sign that maybe we should've started running the ball.  Fisher got blown out on that play but it was a sign the DE's were comfortable with just gunning it.  That's when you start running it to the outside and let them overrun the play.  I mean, did we run ANY runs to the outside?  I can't remember not one run play.

[CanuckColtsFan]

Rodgers almost had the tie.

[Btown_Colt]

3 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

how many fumbles does he have though?

This year in special teams, not sure. He has muffed several, I’ll try to look it up.

 

what good has he done?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, CanuckColtsFan said:

Rodgers almost had the tie.

He was so close. 

If Fisher hadn’t wiffed on pass protection and Hines doesnt muff the punt you all would be praising Reich.