Taylor is second in rushing yards

[CR91]

 

With 86 less carries compared to Henry.

[Indyfan4life]

86 more attempts.

 

Let that sink in.

 

86.

[MPStack]

3 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

86 more attempts.

 

Let that sink in.

 

86.

Makes you wonder, if the Colts actually limit JT’s carries. He had a ton at Wisconsin. 

[JediXMan]

Man Henry’s stamina and durability is insane.

[IinD]

Yeah he is 

 

Keep running it baby...

[NannyMcafee]

Wonder what it would be with 86 more attempts 

[cjwhiskers]

With 86 carries less….My lord. 

 

JT is playing great. Just some food for thought.

• JT run average right now is 5.5 per attempt (compared to Henry’s 4.5 per attempt) 
• Times his AVG by 86 attempts and he’d have an additional ~473 yards for a total of 1,052 (183 over Henry)

[PeterBowman]

Henry is just built different. One of the only ones who can take the kind of usage rate and not be affected  much by it.

[indyagent17]

6 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Man Henry’s stamina and durability is insane.

This is what makes Henry elite

[JediXMan]

Just now, cjrulli said:

With 86 carries less….My lord. 

 

JT is playing great. Just some food for thought.

• JT run average right now is 5.5 per attempt (compared to Henry’s 4.5 per attempt) 
• Times his AVG by 86 attempts and he’d have an additional ~473 yards for a total of 1,052 (183 over Henry)

Sorry but are you implying he’s on par or better than Henry? Henry is in his own tier tbh. 

[cjwhiskers]

Just now, JediXMan said:

Sorry but are you implying he’s on par or better than Henry? Henry is in his own tier tbh. 

 

Not at all. Simply extrapolating the stats. Henry is a different RB and easily in contention for MVP. However, efficiency can be just as important as volume. Based on the sample sizes we have, JT has been just as effective if not more so. 

 

 

[runthepost]

Henry also faces a stacked box on 60% of his carries 

[gspdx]

I don' think anyone is saying Taylor >= Henry.  But this is impressive and I am thrilled with this running production.  We have an effective running game and that just helps Wentz and the passing game to be better.

[B~Town]

1 hour ago, MPStack said:

Makes you wonder, if the Colts actually limit JT’s carries. He had a ton at Wisconsin. 

I think they do I heard in a presser once how they view rbs carries through college and the nfl where at x amount there is a major statistical drop off . 

[twfish]

1 hour ago, JediXMan said:

Man Henry’s stamina and durability is insane.

[coltsfan_canada]

105 - 579 - 5 TD (Taylor # 2)
123 - 539 - 4 TD (Mixon # 3)

 

Beside Nick Chub, Taylor has the least number of attempts in those TOP 5 mentioned above. Taylor is really a beast but Henry with 86 more attempts wow impressive

 

[jbaron04]

2 hours ago, MPStack said:

Makes you wonder, if the Colts actually limit JT’s carries. He had a ton at Wisconsin. 

Every game JT has 100 rushing yards I believe it’s a win , frank is his own worst enemy sometimes. Titans against bills no other running back ran the ball but Henry no wasted carries on backup if not needed and Titans won 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Henry I think is the most dominant player in the league. For sure he's up there in physicality. 

[Stephen]

Taylor doesn't always get the amount of carries he should. He only had 10 in the Wentz sprained ankle game

[King Colt]

Henry like Earl Campbell is taking  a lot of hits. Earl "The Texas Rose" needs crutches to walk.

[gspdx]

2 minutes ago, King Colt said:

Henry like Earl Campbell is taking  a lot of hits. Earl "The Texas Rose" needs crutches to walk.

 

Right - I hope JT can be effective with fewer carries and avoid some of those hits.

[LiveAndLetAddai]

Taylor needs to be fed and Sunday night's game was an outlier with the fumbles, that weather was horrible.

[bigt]

It’s a long brutal season.  It’s probably good Reich is limiting Taylor’s carries so he still has a lot left in the tank down the stretch.  I hate the Titans, but I like Henry.  If Henry gets hurt for any amount of time, the Titans offense will struggle.  Lucky for them their last 8 games are cream puff city.  There is a big drop off for us after Taylor so we would be in the same boat if Taylor misses any games.

[Stephen]

1 hour ago, bigt said:

It’s a long brutal season.  It’s probably good Reich is limiting Taylor’s carries so he still has a lot left in the tank down the stretch.  I hate the Titans, but I like Henry.  If Henry gets hurt for any amount of time, the Titans offense will struggle.  Lucky for them their last 8 games are cream puff city.  There is a big drop off for us after Taylor so we would be in the same boat if Taylor misses any games.

Never know of of young guys on practice squad could be like Ernest from browns

[Four2itus]

400 carries in the long term death knell for RB's. If you want to enjoy JT for while...lighten up on the demand for his carries. 

[AKB]

been thinking about changing my name to 2sprainz for a while. random thought. 

[Stephen]

30 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

been thinking about changing my name to 2sprainz for a while. random thought. 

Lol

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Taylor still is averaging one yard more then Henry. That is really crazy.  Henry’s that far ahead because of all the carried he has.

[holeymoley99]

2 hours ago, Stephen said:

Never know of of young guys on practice squad could be like Ernest from browns

I was at Orlando Apollos opening game and followed them close, did not think Ernest could go off like that in NFL BUT he showed he was NFL caliber with them that season, he is talented and it was not a total fluke. Just saying 

[EastStreet]

7 hours ago, CR91 said:

With 86 less carries compared to Henry.

Every knows the O flows through Henry in TN. And all the Ds play TN that way. The fact he is able to do what he does with every team knowing exactly what is coming, is pretty amazing. 

7 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

86 more attempts.

 

Let that sink in.

 

86.

Running his tires off. Amazing if he lasts....

And more amazing that he gets even better as the game goes along and he gets more carries.

7 hours ago, cjrulli said:

With 86 carries less….My lord. 

 

JT is playing great. Just some food for thought.

• JT run average right now is 5.5 per attempt (compared to Henry’s 4.5 per attempt) 
• Times his AVG by 86 attempts and he’d have an additional ~473 yards for a total of 1,052 (183 over Henry)

JT's high average is a mix of several things. He's #1 in big plays. He also has 13% better YBC which makes it a bit easier on him (likely because of the high stacked box rate DH gets). JT's much lower use, and his high use in the passing game thus far, is just harder to predict than what you know DH is going to do every single game. TN is #5 in run plays, and DH has 191 of 202 rush attempts (95%). Indy is 10th, and JT has 105 of 167 rushing attempts (63%)... So our variety helps JT. Some of the situational usage is head scratching though lol. But DH is force fed to every D they face, and he's more or less unstoppable. 

7 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Sorry but are you implying he’s on par or better than Henry? Henry is in his own tier tbh. 

Yes. Easily. 

6 hours ago, runthepost said:

Henry also faces a stacked box on 60% of his carries 

Didn't think it was that high this year, but I know he was top 5 in stacked rate.

5 hours ago, jbaron04 said:

Every game JT has 100 rushing yards I believe it’s a win , frank is his own worst enemy sometimes. Titans against bills no other running back ran the ball but Henry no wasted carries on backup if not needed and Titans won 

He's had 100+ in 3 games. 2 bad teams (Houston/Miami both with historically bad run Ds), and SF who is very mediocre this year and in the rain.

 

His most impressive game to me though was vs TN. He's AVG was outstanding, but for whatever reason was limited to 10 carries.... Holy head scratcher.

4 hours ago, Stephen said:

Taylor doesn't always get the amount of carries he should. He only had 10 in the Wentz sprained ankle game

Like I said above... Holy head scratcher Frank... had a great AVG that game too. Hope we see him get more than 10 this week.

4 hours ago, WentzinRome said:

Taylor needs to be fed and Sunday night's game was an outlier with the fumbles, that weather was horrible.

Yes please.

[IanColts22]

7 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Sorry but are you implying he’s on par or better than Henry? Henry is in his own tier tbh. 

Henry is an Elite RB we all know this.  But to be fair JT has 86 less carries/attempts.  JT could easily be leading right now as the number 1 RB in the NFL yardage wise.  Now that doesn’t make him better then Henry and it doesn’t make Not as good as Henry either.  Pretty much I’m saying with same attempts JT yards/numbers will be higher then Henry and that’s it.  Yards gain isn’t the only thing that makes an elite RB m. 
 

[CR91]

@EastStreet

 

Well the problem with trying to defend Henry is it takes a toll. It's hard to continuing to tackle a human freight train so even if you stop him in his first 10 carries, it's the next 20 that you really start feeling the pain of trying to bring him down.

[EastStreet]

41 minutes ago, CR91 said:

@EastStreet

 

Well the problem with trying to defend Henry is it takes a toll. It's hard to continuing to tackle a human freight train so even if you stop him in his first 10 carries, it's the next 20 that you really start feeling the pain of trying to bring him down.

 

It's just very impressive that he can carry that huge frame of his for all those carries. So fast, and doesn't lose anything late in games after being a bell cow all game. I like your description. He's a pure unicorn. Not sure we'll see another like him anytime soon if ever.

 

His avg 12.5M salary has been a bargain the last 2 seasons. Curious to see if he can maintain. If he can, will be interesting to see what happens in 2023 (contract year). TN certainly doesn't look to be trying to extend his career at all lol.

[CR91]

5 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

 

It's just very impressive that he can carry that huge frame of his for all those carries. So fast, and doesn't lose anything late in games after being a bell cow all game. I like your description. He's a pure unicorn. Not sure we'll see another like him anytime soon if ever.

 

His avg 12.5M salary has been a bargain the last 2 seasons. Curious to see if he can maintain. If he can, will be interesting to see what happens in 2023 (contract year). TN certainly doesn't look to be trying to extend his career at all lol.

 

Kinda surprised he hasn't asked to be the highest paid RB which I think is McCaffrey currently at 18 mil.

[Stephen]

21 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Kinda surprised he hasn't asked to be the highest paid RB which I think is McCaffrey currently at 18 mil.

If he keeps playing at high level he can beat emmit smith

[CR91]

13 minutes ago, Stephen said:

If he keeps playing at high level he can beat emmit smith

 

People said the same thing about Peterson. RBs are just not valued like they were back in the day. Offensives are just too wide open now.

[EastStreet]

29 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Kinda surprised he hasn't asked to be the highest paid RB which I think is McCaffrey currently at 18 mil.

 

Well when he signed, IIRC, he didn't want to get tagged. From what I remembered they could have tagged him twice for like 11M a year or something like that, and the injury risk over that period was probably a concern. So he got like 25M guaranteed the first two without the risk, and more than what would have amounted to like 22M. So not totally bad. Pretty sure his annual pay goes up after this year to like 15M for the next two years. If he's still killing it after next year, Titans will have a decision to make. And I doubt he'll want to play 2023 if an extension is not in the works.

[rockywoj]

Taylor should never have less than 15 carries in a game and he should be getting 20-25 touches (runs & passes) per game.  He is just such an electric game breaker!

 

The ONLY reason Taylor shouldn’t be in the game is because he needs a for real breather.  Only then should Hines (or Mack) replace him.  Wanna use those other backs, then scheme them in at the same time with creative player groupings, but you leave Taylor in!  That way, defences have to account for him, which opens up a lot of alternative play action and misdirection plays.  Colts offensive play calling needs to become elite to turn this offence loose!

[Stephen]

8 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

People said the same thing about Peterson. RBs are just not valued like they were back in the day. Offensives are just too wide open now.

When Peterson got in trouble and got hurt that slowed him down

[EastStreet]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

 

People said the same thing about Peterson. RBs are just not valued like they were back in the day. Offensives are just too wide open now.

 

ES's record is a pretty loft goal (18+K) with DH being under 7 now... but if he can stay healthy, he might be the exception.

To me, him eclipsing Jerome's would be a big deal. Still surprised a big boy like that had that many years/yards. Gore got a lot closer than I expected too.

 

I agree though on RBs being devalued. So long as you have a decent OL and decent passing game, you just don't have to have an elite RB to get 1000+ a year from a good, not great RB.