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2021 1Q Report/Grades: Offensive Skill Positions


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2021 1Q Report/Grades: Offensive Skill Positions  

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  1. 1. How would you grade WR overall (please read OP)

  2. 2. How would you grade TE overall (please read OP)

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    • B
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  3. 3. How would you grade RB overall (please read OP)

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  4. 4. Do you want to see more intermediate and deep shots (deep slants, go routes, sail routs)?

  5. 5. Do you think Mo Alie Cox should be used more?

  6. 6. What rarely used or unused WR do you want to see more of (53 or PS)....


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  • Overall WR Grade - B 
    • Pittman - B+
      • 73.6 YPG, on track for 1250 yards for the season
      • Leads the team in 1st downs, and no drops
      • Note - I don't see him (or X in general) as a #1 WR, but he's doing enough to be a #1, and more than enough as a #2.
    • Pascal - C+
      • 40.8 YPG, on track for almost 700 yards.
      • Leads the team in drops (3), but also leads the team in receiving TDs (3)
      • Note - He's a starter and getting top 2 snaps, so his grade is what it is. He does do all the little things well despite not having the stats
    • Campbell - C+/B-
      • 27.8 YPG, on track for about 500 yards, and no drops
      • A lot less targets and snaps than Pittman or Pascal, but has a yards per touch similar to Pittman, and better than Pascal. 
      • Seems to be staying healthy so far (huge knock on wood)
      • Note - You can see him improving. Best used in slants and gos, but we just don't run those routes a lot. I hope that changes. Great game last week.
    • Strachan 
      • No grade as we haven't seen a lot, but has caught 2 on 3 targets and no drops. I understand he may need route work, but no reason not to use him on simple possession routes on 3rd or in the RZ. Like MAC, just a waste of elite traits due to our conservative play calling, especially in the RZ.
    • Dulin
      • No grade here either, but did look pretty good last game. The guy has nice speed that we just don't take advantage of on slants and gos...
    • Harris
      • No grade either, just saw him a little on 2 temp elevation weeks. Another waste of elite traits.
    • Hilton - NA
      • Really hope he adds a new dimension to our offense, or at minimum takes some doubles to open up Pittman or others.
  • Overall TE Grade - B
    • Mo Alie-Cox - B+
      • Only 9 catches but highest yards per touch on the team, zero drops, 7 1st downs, and 2TDs
      • The lack of use is still a headscratcher
    • Doyle - B
      • Only 11 catches, but 6 were for 1st downs. Grading well (career best)
      • We're just not using TEs a lot in the receiving game. 
    • Grasnon - NA
      • No grade here due to lack of usage. 
      • In his few targets, used a lot like Burton (shallow targets) with a very low ADOT (3.5)
      • Note - I've mentioned it before, but he was used vertically in college, now more or less a getting short slot like passes.
  • Overall RB Grade - B 
    • Taylor - B+ 
      • Leading the team in yards from scrimmage (524 yards) and has a 4.5 AVG
      • 65.4 YPG rushing, 39.4 receiving. On track for 1100+ rushing and 650+ receiving. 
      • 12.3 yards per target, which is WR like...... (almost twice as much as Hines' 6.5)
      • Note - slow start rushing, but have to cut him some slack for lack of carries, and bad OL play. Still needs to improve vision/patience in zone running
    • Mack - B
      • 4.3 AVG in limited snaps, and it hasn't been during clean up time late in games
    • Hines - C+
      • Still good, but his AVG has taken a step back (no shock with the OL), his catch % has declined a little (plus on drop), and his YPT is half of what JT's is.
      • Note - I think his use will increase as the OL improves. Right now, it's just harder to run him as a between the tackles RB.
    • Willkins 
      • No grade due to little use

 

 

  • WR Note 
    • M Pittman WR - 
      • 97% / 90% / 93% / 86% / 88% / 
      • 60.8 / 68.8 / 72.7 / 69.7 / 71.2 / 
    • Z Pascal WR - .
      • 91% / 91% / 89% / 82% / 86% / 
      • 64.9 / 62.0 / 57.7 / 57.4 / 58.5 / 
    • P Campbell WR - 
      • 61% / NA / 80% / 44% / 55% / 
      • 62.6 / NA / 56.9 / 53.8 / 60.1 / 
    • M Strachan WR - . 
      • 24% / 51% / NA / 7% / 3% / 
      • 75.2 / 62.3 / NA / 61.9 / 61.8 / 
    • A Dulin WR -  
      • 8% / 39% / 11% / 17% / 33% / 
      • NA / 59.5 / 58.6 / 64.4 / 65.9 / 
    • D Harris WR
      • NA / 3% / NA / NA / NA / 
      • NA / NA / NA / NA / NA / 
  • TE Note - 
    • J Doyle TE -
      • 59% / 70% / 57% / 30% / 72% / 
      • 64.7 / 71.2 / 68.1 / 72.1 / 75.1 / 
    • M Alie-Cox TE -  
      • 51% / 40% / 46% / 69% / 45% / 
      • 50.0 / 51.2 / 56.1 / 61.4 / 65.2 / 
    • K Granson TE -  
      • 9%  / 9% / 20% / 42% / 12% / 
      • NA / NA / NA / 49.9 / 51.6 / 
  • RB Note - 
    • J Taylor RB -  
      • 55% / 45% / 48% / 51% / 52%
      • 60.3 / 60.5 / 64.1 / 71.2 / 73.8
    • N Hines RB - 
      • 45% / 37% / 56% / 31% / 38% / 
      • 69.6 / 60.9 / 67.9 / 64.2 / 64.7 / 
    • M Mack RB -  
      • NA / 19% / NA / 31% / 14% / 
      • NA / 53.8 / NA / 57.9 / 60.8 / 
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I am probably not appreciating everything that Pascal brings to the table enough but I think he gets too many snaps/targets over other receivers. He can help and should be getting snaps but I think other receivers (mainly Campbell but also Dulin and potentially Strachan) can create mismatches and provide some dynamic plays that just isn't what Pascal does. This offense needs more of that. 

 

MAC certainly should be involved more. I'd be very curious to know why he isn't.

 

Really glad TY is back. He should help just being on the field and drawing attention. I think he also is still something to go to when you need a play. On a personal level I really wanted to see him reach 10K yards. Probably his last year in Indy and it's unlikely he reaches that mark after his injury.

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I honestly don't know what to make of our WR group. I'm not really impressed but I think a lot is being left on the field due to coaching and playcalls.

 

8 hours ago, EastStreet said:

didn't want to start a thread for this tweet, but sticking it here....

no brainer for me. Herbert, Henry, Pittman, Brown

 

 

 Prescott, Henry, Pittman, Mclaurin. :thmup:

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