Stephon Gilmore Cut/Traded to Carolina ((MERGE))

[gnet550]

Just got a B/R notifications…this could help our CB issues depending on the injury status

[runthepost]

 

He’s eligible to play soon as he was on the PUP list 

[Architects08]

Would love if we got him, but he will go to KC or TB :/. 

[r a y s k i]

He ain't coming to Indy, book that

[chad72]

Wow!!! This guy is definitely better than Sherman that the Bucs signed. I am sure Tom Brady is trying to get Gilmore on the Bucs with all their secondary injuries. 

 

He was on PUP and was eligible to play soon but Belichick felt his current secondary has enough depth and the cost savings was significant enough, I guess. He is definitely an upgrade over Rhodes, 100%, and I am sure he will have plenty of suitors to choose from. Heck, even the Chiefs might go after him because Spags, just like Todd Bowles, plays plenty of man coverage.

[runthepost]

Chiefs, Titans, Seahawks, 49ers, Bucs, and Ravens are one of the teams that will sign him 

[bleed blue4life]

go get him . he will make a huge difference. thoughts?

[chad72]

4 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Chiefs, Titans, Seahawks, 49ers, Bucs, and Ravens are one of the teams that will sign him 

 

My money is on one of these. Gilmore has mad respect for both Mahomes and Brady (obviously).

 

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/10/07/stephon-gilmore-patrick-mahomes-patriots-chiefs-covid-19/

 

[philba101]

18 minutes ago, bleed blue 4 life said:

go get him . he will make a huge difference. thoughts?

He would be a huge addition to our team. I feel like the Colts are not very aggressive compared to other teams in these kind of situations. Maybe its because we are often not the sexy choice. Why play for the Colts when you could play for the Chiefs, Bucs, etc.

[TimetobringDfence!]

24 minutes ago, bleed blue 4 life said:

go get him . he will make a huge difference. thoughts?

Smith would be more affordable, hopefully Rhodes  gets back to form...that TY signing is looking shaking now...

[runthepost]

6 minutes ago, TimetobringDfence! said:

Smith would be more affordable, hopefully Rhodes  gets back to form...that TY signing is looking shaking now...

Even if Rhodes get to form the difference between all pro and an above average starter is a huge need for the defense

[DougDew]

These types of releases indicate to me that the player wants to go to a playoff team with a chance of winning the SB.  I doubt that a long term contract is even in the serious talks until after the season.

 

NE knew they were moving on after the season, so free him up and save money in the process, if they can.

 

He wouldn't want to come to the Colts, IMO.

[BlackTiger]

13 minutes ago, philba101 said:

He would be a huge addition to our team. I feel like the Colts are not very aggressive compared to other teams in these kind of situations. Maybe its because we are often not the sexy choice. Why play for the Colts when you could play for the Chiefs, Bucs, etc.

We are low on cap space right now according to spotrac.  Colts probably cant afford him without making a bunch of moves and hes likely eyeing better teams anyway 

[Yoshinator]

11 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

We are low on cap space right now according to spotrac.  Colts probably cant afford him without making a bunch of moves and hes likely eyeing better teams anyway 

I don't feel we could get Gilmore, but Jaylon Smith is a possibility IMO. Could probably restructure a contract or two to get him signed.

[TimetobringDfence!]

23 minutes ago, DougDew said:

These types of releases indicate to me that the player wants to go to a playoff team with a chance of winning the SB.  I doubt that a long term contract is even in the serious talks until after the season.

 

NE knew they were moving on after the season, so free him up and save money in the process, if they can.

 

He wouldn't want to come to the Colts, IMO.

On top of that coming off PUP...IDK. You could say this city could be renamed Rehabpolis...

[Indyfan4life]

Let's be real here. We won't go after either of them.

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[BProland85]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

Wow!!! This guy is definitely better than Sherman that the Bucs signed. I am sure Tom Brady is trying to get Gilmore on the Bucs with all their secondary injuries. 

 

He was on PUP and was eligible to play soon but Belichick felt his current secondary has enough depth and the cost savings was significant enough, I guess. He is definitely an upgrade over Rhodes, 100%, and I am sure he will have plenty of suitors to choose from. Heck, even the Chiefs might go after him because Spags, just like Todd Bowles, plays plenty of man coverage.

How do the Bucs have any money left to be able to afford Gilmore? I would say the Colts need to be players considering Rhodes has looked rough, and we still can't count on Rock. I'm so sick of the Bucs landing all these players. Might as well hand them the Super Bowl since apparently the salary cap has no effect on them.

[BlackTiger]

12 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

How do the Bucs have any money left to be able to afford Gilmore?

I dont know but they actually have more than us at the moment

[Chrisaaron1023]

Good luck in Tampa Gilmore..

17 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

How do the Bucs have any money left to be able to afford Gilmore? I would say the Colts need to be players considering Rhodes has looked rough, and we still can't count on Rock. I'm so sick of the Bucs landing all these players. Might as well hand them the Super Bowl since apparently the salary cap has no effect on them.

I feel you 1,000 percent

[runthepost]

18 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

How do the Bucs have any money left to be able to afford Gilmore? I would say the Colts need to be players considering Rhodes has looked rough, and we still can't count on Rock. I'm so sick of the Bucs landing all these players. Might as well hand them the Super Bowl since apparently the salary cap has no effect on them.

Mike Evans restructured his contract is the reason why. Plus Brady isn’t signed to like a 40M a year deal

[chad72]

39 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

How do the Bucs have any money left to be able to afford Gilmore? I would say the Colts need to be players considering Rhodes has looked rough, and we still can't count on Rock. I'm so sick of the Bucs landing all these players. Might as well hand them the Super Bowl since apparently the salary cap has no effect on them.

 

Yep, I feel the same thing as you, bro. It is like players taking pay cuts to play for the Patriots during the early years of their dynasty.

[chad72]

23 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Mike Evans restructured his contract is the reason why. Plus Brady isn’t signed to like a 40M a year deal

 

True. They push the salary to the future making an assumption he will play till 47 or 48. Then, when he does retire, they don't care, they had all those glory years with him, they can afford a few tanking years with a huge dead cap hit because of Brady, will gladly take it in the chin with gratitude.  

 

Teams like the Chiefs can afford to do that too, push Mahomes' salary to the future more increasing their cap hit later. However, the Bucs are more willing to take the risk for "win now" given Brady's age than the Chiefs.

[Flash7]

41 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

I dont know but they actually have more than us at the moment

They have better talent and they have more space shape? 

[richard pallo]

33 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

 

Interesting.  Josina is very dialed in.  So I think there is something she knows here.  I wouldn’t be surprised if she has already talked to Gilmore’s people.  I wouldn’t be quick to dismiss this report.

[runthepost]

6 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

They have better talent and they have more space shape? 

Their contracts are backloaded and voided for the future. Brady cap hit this year is 10M, Carson is 21M

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Colts can’t afford him. He also wants a new deal. Colts have like 1 million in cap space. Without cutting a big player they just don’t have the room.

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[bsteves]

Okay forget Jaylon Smith. This is who we need!

[indykmj]

Hasn't Gilmore been primarily a 'man' CB throughout his career ?

 

Can he play well in off coverage/a zone scheme ?

 

Guys like Nnamdi  Asomugha and Vontae Davis come to mind. Both were studs in 

man, but way less effective playing off/zone.

[Kyle]

3 hours ago, runthepost said:

Chiefs, Titans, Seahawks, 49ers, Bucs, and Ravens are one of the teams that will sign him 

You heard it here first...  he will sign with the Arizona Cardinals

[Flash7]

I don't think we'll pursue Gilmore. The cost is too high and we know Ballard is not a big spender.

 

However, even if we do, it wouldn't work. Essentially, we would be taking a stud man cover corner and ask him to play zone, taking away his greatest strength. Yes, we do play man defense at times, but overall, he would not be the right fit. It would be a waste of his talent.

[Zoltan]

Just looking at cap space, I'm thinking Panthers, Eagles, Ravens

[bertjones7]

 

 

[chad72]

6 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

Just looking at cap space, I'm thinking Panthers, Eagles, Ravens

 

Don't forget Browns. They have the pass rush to aid the secondary plus the cap space.

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[NorthernColt]

52 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

 

So that basically screams Bucs.

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[Shive]

Just now, Wentzszn said:

 

DANG!!!! They must have announced that he was being released, but not officially released him yet. I was seeing that all signs were pointing towards GB, but I guess not.

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1 minute ago, Shive said:

DANG!!!! They must have announced that he was being released, but not officially released him yet. I was seeing that all signs were pointing towards GB, but I guess not.

He would of been released at 4 pm. So announcing it created more trade partners. A sixth round pick is a steal.