EastStreet Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Please wait till the game concludes. Give your 5 to 10 key thoughts on the outcome.... This one should be fun lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 My prediction was 31-17 Seahawks.. Almost right on the money. Defense was AWFUL in 1st half. Offense was AWFUL in 2nd half. O-Line was embarrassed. Colts need a game changing WR. Wentz played okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Well, best I can say is the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, bravo4460 said: My prediction was 31-17 Seahawks.. Almost right on the money. Defense was AWFUL in 1st half. Offense was AWFUL in 2nd half. O-Line was embarrassed. Colts need a game changing WR. Wentz played okay. Wentz played as good as possible with the Oline struggles today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freenyfan102 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 What happen to braden Smith or the offensive line as a whole...they sucked the defense took a major step backward we are no longer 2 against the run after today game. Goes to show you that the signing of Eric fisher was a joke.....remind me again why we took a DE in the second round thats not even able to suit up this season but leave all the other tackles on the board. Ockerekee shows that he still can't cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Best thing from this game - even though Wentz didn't get any help from his OLine or receivers... or coaches... he didn't switch to hero mode. Executed the plan to the end. Now the plan and playcalling are a separate thing we can beef with, but at least one of the biggest worries for Wentz so far is assuaged. The offense started well... and that's a staple from Frank Reich offenses - while the scripted plays are on we are good... then... we can't get in rhythm and exhibit questionable playcalling(although, this time it's probably more on the execution/OL play). I will also need to rewatch the game to see if Wentz was missing open receivers, but I kind of feel like it's probably more likely we just didn't have many open receivers in the short time Wentz had to get rid off the ball. Everything else... Yuk! We will suffer a lot if this is the level we can expect from our OL, WRs, the whole D... just attrocious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holeymoley99 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1)Wentz looked better then I thought 2)Kwity Paye made an impact 3)Pittman needs to step up 4)Pascal solid as usual 5)Rhodes needs to come back 6)Fisher needs to play next week 7)Strachan is NFL ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 The Oline...uggh Coach Reich.... uggh Coach decision making....uggh Play calling....uggh Defense.... uggh Okereke.....uggh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zibby43 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 There are correctable problems, but the Colts have virtually no big-time talent at Edge or WR. Cutting Autry loose was a mistake. AQM is not a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockywoj Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8th year in a row, season opener disappointment. Secondary is weak Need Fisher at LT Reich needs to better know when to take a FG vs going for it (2nd 4th down gamble, he should’ve took the easy FG to make it a 2 score game. 1st gamble that was the bad snap, I agreed with going for it, but not the outcome. lol) Offensive play calling, well, offensive. Only the 1st game, still hoping for 3-2 in the 1st five games. Go Colts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Freenyfan102 said: What happen to braden Smith or the offensive line as a whole...they sucked the defense took a major step backward we are no longer 2 against the run after today game. Goes to show you that the signing of Eric fisher was a joke.....remind me again why we took a DE in the second round thats not even able to suit up this season but leave all the other tackles on the board. Ockerekee shows that he still can't cover. Fisher didn’t even play. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Well, that was difficult to watch. My thoughts: We saw the mobility that Wentz brings which this team didn't have last year. Unfortunately, we saw it too much which leads into the next thought. The offensive line stunk today and not just Davenport. They couldn't protect Wentz and didn't allow the run game to get going. If this team is going to have any success then the offensive line must be much better. Eric Fisher entering the lineup isn't going to fix what we saw today. I think we saw where we miss TY. He gives them a deep threat that they could have used. I expect WIlson and those receivers to make some plays but it was just too easy for them today. Defense couldn't stop the run and gave up too many big passing plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I had 24-10 Seattle. Carson looked lost all day today. Reich had a horrible gameplan. Time management was abysmal. Completely let down by the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1. with our secondary on the mend, we were expecting the secondary to have a difficult time, which they did. 2. However, I was not expecting the run defense to look so bad. And they STUNK! 3. With the soft cover-2 defense, at least you don't give up the big plays.....oh wait!! 4. I know that we are a running team, but can we please switch it up on 1st downs. The offense does so much better when we mix up the run and the pass. When we are 1-dimensional, it's too easy for opposing defenses to adjust and make the stop. 5. Let's just take the points when it's there. You have 3 downs to try and score a TD. On 4th down, just take the points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Paris had a nice catch, but I don’t see much impact for where he was drafted. Feels like a team still in preseason mode. Which, big picture, is really not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coming on strong Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 games are won in the trenches , our defensive line got one sack the rest of the game looked horrible . our offensive line looked worse than 2013 . they got 6 yards a carry we couldnt run the ball at all . this limited the play calls cant throw deep without protection or play action . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freenyfan102 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Indyfan4life said: Fisher didn’t even play. What are you on about? Why pay a LT with health issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 The o line was terrible today. I think most of the lack of offensive production can be blamed on that. Braden Smiths worst game in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire cartier Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, bravo4460 said: My prediction was 31-17 Seahawks.. Almost right on the money. Defense was AWFUL in 1st half. Offense was AWFUL in 2nd half. O-Line was embarrassed. Colts need a game changing WR. Wentz played okay. wentz not manning are luck type of qb, have no deep wr,s so their defense easy day stuff run and pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeeclipper Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 We gave up big passing plays. Exposed a weak secondary. Offensive line play was not good - Need Fisher back soon - Davenport was not good. Surprisingly Smith struggled. Hard to generate an offensive game without good offensive line play. We gave up more on ground than I thought we would. On positive, Carson was pretty decent given he missed all pre-season games. Taylor/Hines are a big part of the offense. Pascal and Straughn were good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, IndySouthsider said: Paris had a nice catch, but I don’t see much impact for where he was drafted. Feels like a team still in preseason mode. Which, big picture, is really not a big deal. Seattle looked like a team in mid season form, we looked like a team that was sleep walking. They have Russell Wilson though so I knew this wouldn't be easy and it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlueAndWhite Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Blame for the Loss is squarely on the coaches shoulders, absolutely, horrible game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 My initial thought to this game: “Why am I not surprised?” The O-Line was very bad today. Haven’t seen it that bad in quite some time. I honestly felt bad for Wentz. He’s probably thinking this O-Line is no different than Philly. Defense giving up big chunk plays and long shots down the field. Nothing we could do to stop it. we need a couple more elite playmakers on both sides of the ball still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Just now, Freenyfan102 said: Why pay a LT with health issues Why spell your screen name wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coming on strong Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 the seahawks do not even have a elite defensive line which is scary . next week the rams have a much better line , aron donald will feast on wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 O play calling was just bad. I expected more passing to the big boys. Only 6 total targets to Pittman and Strachan. D coaching and scheme was as soft as ever. Tons of cushion, and just bad coverage calls. C2 with Willis 2 deep is just silly vs Lockett and DK. OL stunk. Smith and Kelly get paid too much to get pushed around like they did. Hobbled Q looked better than the healthy guys.... Wentz having Philly flashbacks. Running game struggled as expected. Both Taylor and Hines under 4 AVG Run D was horrible. We allowed a 5.5 AVG and Carson looked like Henry with a 5.7 AVG. Okereke is just not that good. Pass D gave allowed 78% completion rate. The Bend Don't Break... got broke Wentz, even though he was harassed all game, still tossed for 2 TDs, no INTs, and a 66% completion rate. He did his job. Rock and Carrie played better than Moore and Willis.... opposite of most games DL was unimpressive.... only 1.5 sacks. DBs had 2.5. We need to reshuffle the DEs a bit IMO. We're just not that good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Defense can’t keep playing awful one half and good a second half. We saw that way too much last year and saw it again today. Willis was awful in the first half. I’d say the Colts were a little scared of Metcalf and Lockett but when they didn’t play scared of them they burned them so I think they played them the right way most of the game. The guys just have to play better. The line is an issue and it wasn’t all at LT. So Fisher returning alone won’t fix everything. I think too many guys missed too much time in the pre-season for them to jell. Frank’s play calling was just awful today. Not running at all when down two scores when there was tones of time left letting them Seahawks t off on Wentz. When he would run it was in the most obvious situations with the most obvious plays. I like Hines but way too much of him and not enough of Taylor. Colts kept going for the play action even though they hadn’t run enough to set it up and it didn’t fool the Seahawks at all. Not every pass can be a dump off but I will when the line doesn’t block you can’t go down the field even if you want too. The play calling at then was what it was. They were clearly trying to just not Wentz take shots for taking shots. Frank has to learn to take the points. He’s too aggressive on fourth down at times. Had they kicked at least one of those field goals they probably go for one on the second TD and it’s 28-20 and it’s different game at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, jvan1973 said: Why spell your screen name wrong? How about Mathes lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, stitches said: Best thing from this game - even though Wentz didn't get any help from his OLine or receivers... or coaches... he didn't switch to hero mode. Executed the plan to the end. Now the plan and playcalling are a separate thing we can beef with, but at least one of the biggest worries for Wentz so far is assuaged. My thoughts 1000% 6 minutes ago, stitches said: The offense started well... and that's a staple from Frank Reich offenses - while the scripted plays are on we are good... then... we can't get in rhythm and exhibit questionable playcalling(although, this time it's probably more on the execution/OL play). I will also need to rewatch the game to see if Wentz was missing open receivers, but I kind of feel like it's probably more likely we just didn't have many open receivers in the short time Wentz had to get rid off the ball. Everything else... Yuk! We will suffer a lot if this is the level we can expect from our OL, WRs, the whole D... just attrocious... I hate when I have to stream.... No DVR replay to grade :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 minute ago, EastStreet said: O play calling was just bad. I expected more passing to the big boys. Only 6 total targets to Pittman and Strachan. D coaching and scheme was as soft as ever. Tons of cushion, and just bad coverage calls. C2 with Willis 2 deep is just silly vs Lockett and DK. OL stunk. Smith and Kelly get paid too much to get pushed around like they did. Hobbled Q looked better than the healthy guys.... Wentz having Philly flashbacks. Running game struggled as expected. Both Taylor and Hines under 4 AVG Run D was horrible. We allowed a 5.5 AVG and Carson looked like Henry with a 5.7 AVG. Okereke is just not that good. Pass D gave allowed 78% completion rate. The Bend Don't Break... got broke Wentz, even though he was harassed all game, still tossed for 2 TDs, no INTs, and a 66% completion rate. He did his job. Rock and Carrie played better than Moore and Willis.... opposite of most games DL was unimpressive.... only 1.5 sacks. DBs had 2.5. We need to reshuffle the DEs a bit IMO. We're just not that good.... Russell Wilson will make a lot teams look bad. I am more concerned about our O.line than anything, even more than the secondary. Wentz needs protection, without it we are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, zibby43 said: There are correctable problems, but the Colts have virtually no big-time talent at Edge or WR. Cutting Autry loose was a mistake. AQM is not a starter. Unless Kwity Paye turns into one, 5 years into Ballard's management, we have no starting level DE, no long-term starting level outside corner and no long-term starting outside receiver(Strachan is probably our best chance at one... People were killing me here when I was saying Pittman has never shown ability to beat man coverage outside... neither has Campbell BTW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, holeymoley99 said: 1)Wentz looked better then I thought 2)Kwity Paye made an impact 3)Pittman needs to step up 4)Pascal solid as usual 5)Rhodes needs to come back 6)Fisher needs to play next week 7)Strachan is NFL ready Agree with most... Pittman was 3/4 for for 29... He played well with the limited targets he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Overseas Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 For a team and General Manager that prides itself on wining in the trenches, were were absolutely dominated today. Very disappointing. Wentz did as well as one could expect. Just one another note, we really lack explosive offensive weapons. I know were supposedly built differently, but the Seahawks offense was so much more superior than ours. They looked like a playoff team. Michael Pittman Jr can run as many crossers as he likes, but the guy has to show he can win 1v1 on the boundary if he wants to be an X wide receiver in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate! Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Wentz being unvaccinated cost him precious practice time and ultimately the Colts the game today. Just wasn’t in sync this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, zibby43 said: Cutting Autry loose was a mistake. I guess you are not considering the results of the Titans-Cardinals game today with this statement. Autry is solid but he isn't a difference maker. He wouldn't have solved the problems the Colts had today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire cartier Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 defense tired , had 2 takeaway's , stop them all second half . offence nothing tell gravy TIME. offense fumble ball , 2 times could had a 2 field goals come with zero . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, ar7 said: Well, that was difficult to watch. My thoughts: We saw the mobility that Wentz brings which this team didn't have last year. Unfortunately, we saw it too much which leads into the next thought. The offensive line stunk today and not just Davenport. They couldn't protect Wentz and didn't allow the run game to get going. If this team is going to have any success then the offensive line must be much better. Eric Fisher entering the lineup isn't going to fix what we saw today. I think we saw where we miss TY. He gives them a deep threat that they could have used. I expect WIlson and those receivers to make some plays but it was just too easy for them today. Defense couldn't stop the run and gave up too many big passing plays. Agree with all but the TY comment... We didn't have the time really to let deep plays set up today. And Reich last year really didn't let TY run a lot of go routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, indyagent17 said: I had 24-10 Seattle. Carson looked lost all day today. Reich had a horrible gameplan. Time management was abysmal. Completely let down by the team Any QB would look lost when you’re getting virtually no time to throw or make any reads. You people who are going on and on about this act like it’s Madden where you can just push a button and the ball is thrown immediately. Look at the Super Bowl last year. Mahomes was CONSTANTLY under pressure and didn’t do anything, and guess what? He took hits and didn’t score any touchdowns. Mahomes, you know, that guy that can make anything out of nothing. Even Wilson took hits today when he didn’t get time to do anything. Our oline sucked today, and Wentz did everything possible to extend plays and drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Freenyfan102 said: Why pay a LT with health issues Wdym? We have a LT with Health issues, but All-Pro potential. He is 10X better than what we have right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I just didn’t expect our offensive line to get their * absolutely spanked play after play after play after play. I didn’t expect them to be the best unit in the league at this stage, but today was a shocker. That was Grigson era throwback stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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