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1 hour ago, EastStreet said:

My thoughts as they appeared in my lunatic fringe mind....

 

  1. well maybe we'll have a 1st round pick next year
  2. did Rivers start that HS job yet?
  3. Reich gets yet another year with a good "excuse"
  4. unlock the Swag
  5. perhaps it's time for Minshew. Nothing like 70s porn football

Same for Ballard on #3

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4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I think Ballard is freaking out.  He traded for Brisset when it hit the fan.  If it looks like he misses serious time I would bet he trade trades for Foles.  I would rather go with Eason that a street vet. 

Well, Holder says nobody at Colts camp is acting that way.

 

Really, I just posted that because I wanted to take the opportunity to throw some shade at Howie Roseman.  I can't imagine Chris Ballard freaking out about much of anything.  He's a pretty chill dude when it comes to these things.

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3 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Kevin Bowen just mentioned on his podcast how Wentz mentioned he needed to rebuild his lower body mechanics. Makes you wonder.

He used foot muscles this week that he hasn't used in years.  LOL.

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46 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

For me the 1st choice is to bring Rivers back until Wentz is ready.  

Um.....the Colts didn't "Let" Rivers go. He retired. And my gut feeling is he didn't exactly get overwhelmed with appreciation during the season last year from the fan base and that may have played into his retirement. 

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Hopefully Reich will be back Monday and can give more info. Nor good though may not have any practices together before the start of the season.

 

If they give Eason a chance with this running game I would hope we would be ok.

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4 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

what vet is going to come in hand way through training camp pick up the playbook and win you a few games? There isn’t. 

If the team thinks Eason is not ready for real live NFL games then it may do more harm than good to push him into the deep end and see if he swims or drowns. 
 

Just because YOU want to see him play doesn’t mean he’s ready to.  

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14 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

I will almost bet Foles will end up a colt. Even if it’s just to backup Eason and be a vet. The question will be what happens when Wentz is ready to return. Foles contact I am guessing isn’t very cheap.

I don't think there's any way we bring in Foles. He has familiarity with Reich, but our FO has shown that they very much care about the locker room and it's make-up. Looking at what happened in Philly (even if there's no animosity between Wentz and Foles), it's the type of move that would create more of a distraction than anything.

 

2 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

what vet is going to come in hand way through training camp pick up the playbook and win you a few games? There isn’t. 

At this point, you're not bringing in a vet to start. You're bringing one in to compete with Eason, but most likely back him up and provide a veteran presence in the QB room.

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Just now, NewColtsFan said:

If the team thinks Eason is not ready for real live NFL games then it may do more harm than good to push him into the deep end and see if he swims or drowns. 
 

Just because YOU want to see him play doesn’t mean he’s ready to.  

I couldn't agree more.  And there's a big part of me that would love to see what Eason can do.  Not getting to see him in preseason action last year, combined with positive reports on his arm strength, etc. just makes that a very natural curiosity.

 

But the coaching staff and FO *have* to do whatever they think gives the team the best chance to achieve its objectives.  If that's to play Eason, that's great -- it would be nice to see some return on the 4th round investment.  But if it's to bring in a short-timer vet, I'm OK with that too.  That's the reason they're hired to do what they do.

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5 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Kevin Bowen just mentioned on his podcast how Wentz mentioned he needed to rebuild his lower body mechanics. Makes you wonder.

It may make YOU wonder.   It doesn’t make me wonder.

 

Rebuilding mechanics doesn’t translate to a weakened foot ligament.   They are likely not connected. 

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22 minutes ago, a06cc said:

His ability to walk on it. He’ll miss 4 weeks 

 

All that without even an examination!  You should be the team doc.

 

"Can you walk?  Then you're good.  Take 4 weeks off."

 

By the way, I walked with broken bones in my feet on two different occasions and each foot.  With one it wasn't too bad but gives me lots of trouble today.  The other I broke while I was a First Sergeant in the Air Force.  The next day I spent the day running a grill flipping burgers for our squadron picnic.  The next day after that I went to the hospital where they put my in a non-walking cast for 6 weeks.

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They are not going to bring in a vet unless they think Wentz will miss a significant part of the season.  Even possibly missing one game won't trigger it, IMO. 

 

We're not there yet, and it seems like that length of absence isn't even on the radar at this point.

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1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

The thing about bringing in a vet is that really needed. Wentz would still be there in the film room ect to help Eason. 

Yeah, and Eason has the benefit of a full year (plus) of working within our offensive system.  He's also gotten practice reps with our receivers, etc.

 

There are absolutely advantages he's going to have over any vet (save for Rivers...but that isn't likely to happen).  But that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best option.

 

Lot of considerations here.  We don't even know who would be available -- let alone how quickly they could jump in.

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7 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:

 

I remember hearing somewhere that the foot bone's connected to the....leg bone.

It's that Hokey Pokey "Right foot in and ya shake it all about" thing. Keep him away from all skates...

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19 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

i doubt wentz misses the first game the problem is he will not have a training camp and the first couple weeks could get rough

I very strongly doubt he doesn't miss some regular season games, but we Are in agreement that he is going to have basically no practice with the team when he does get back, and that's what makes this so crappy.  Roll with Eason and let's see what he can do 

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4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

They are not going to bring in a vet unless they think Wentz will miss a significant part of the season.  Even possibly missing one game won't trigger it, IMO. 

 

We're not there yet, and it seems like that length of absence isn't even on the radar at this point.

 

I don't know if I agree with the first part.

 

I agree that nobody knows how long he'll be out (thus the term "indefinitely").  And that determination, when they have it, will likely play a big role in guiding their response.

 

But I don't think the NFL -- especially in a very competitive division -- gives teams the luxury of looking past a game or two.  The division and playoff berths often come down to a single game.

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16 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

It may make YOU wonder.   It doesn’t make me wonder.

 

Rebuilding mechanics doesn’t translate to a weakened foot ligament.   They are likely not connected. 

Well, they're not connected anymore! Heeeey! Lol  too soon?

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8 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:

Yeah, and Eason has the benefit of a full year (plus) of working within our offensive system.  He's also gotten practice reps with our receivers, etc.

 

There are absolutely advantages he's going to have over any vet (save for Rivers...but that isn't likely to happen).  But that doesn't necessarily mean he's the best option.

 

Lot of considerations here.  We don't even know who would be available -- let alone how quickly they could jump in.

JMV is Absolutly trashing Eason. Saying there is no way thdy can go with Eason.

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1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

So radio is now trashing Ballard for getting Wentz lol. They are trashing Eason. 

You're listening to the wrong stations 

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JMV is Absolutly trashing Eason. Saying there is no way thdy can go with Eason.

How is that trashing Eason? How many games has he played since high school?  12?

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2 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

I very strongly doubt he doesn't miss some regular season games, but we Are in agreement that he is going to have basically no practice with the team when he does get back, and that's what makes this so crappy.  Roll with Eason and let's see what he can do 

the good news is the colts already looked at wentz xray and mri and are telling people its not a bad injury and are in good spirits .  worst case only seems like he misses two games .  a mri would of shown ligament damage and x ray broken bones . if the colts saw this results already and in good spirits that tells me its a bad sprain but well see after wentz sees the specialist

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1 minute ago, coming on strong said:

the good news is the colts already looked at wentz xray and mri and are telling people its not a bad injury and are in good spirits .  worst case only seems like he misses two games .  a mri would of shown ligament damage and x ray broken bones . if the colts saw this results already and in good spirits that tells me its a bad sprain but well see after wentz sees the specialist

So your good news scenario is he misses 8 weeks from today, and comes back week three of the regular season having not quite two whole practices with a brand new team?  

 

Sweet, no wonder they're not stressed

 

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4 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

You're listening to the wrong stations 

How is that trashing Eason? How many games has he played since high school?  12?

Because he thinks some journeyman out there is going  to be better. It’s Eason that has thrown and built a relationship with these guys over the last two years.

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I wonder how long Taylor would've been the starter in San diego if they hadn't stuck a neddle into his lung. Turned out to be a blessing in disguise as Herbert looked very ready and I doubt many football folks thought he was.  I'm not saying Eason is Herbert, but he's got skills, size and athletic ability and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he found quick success with a solid O line and weapons( which Herbert really didn't have.)

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1 minute ago, luv_pony_express said:

 

I don't know if I agree with the first part.

 

I agree that nobody knows how long he'll be out (thus the term "indefinitely").  And that determination, when they have it, will likely play a big role in guiding their response.

 

But I don't think the NFL -- especially in a very competitive division -- gives teams the luxury of looking past a game or two.  The division and playoff berths often come down to a single game.

I don't see Rivers disrupting his life unless he thinks he won't be returning to that life for a while.  Signing a contract soon, only to have Wentz recover to where Phil wastes his time on the bench after one game, I wouldn't think would be a risk he would want to take.

 

Or any vet for that matter. 

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1 minute ago, Shafty138 said:

So your good news scenario is he misses 8 weeks from today, and comes back week three of the regular season having not quite two whole practices with a brand new team?  

 

Sweet, no wonder they're not stressed

 

Would you rather it be a season ending injury?  If not then yes that’s a good news scenario compared to what it could be.  He didn’t say it was the perfect scenario.  

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28 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:

Well, Holder says nobody at Colts camp is acting that way.

 

Really, I just posted that because I wanted to take the opportunity to throw some shade at Howie Roseman.  I can't imagine Chris Ballard freaking out about much of anything.  He's a pretty chill dude when it comes to these things.

Yep. If he didn’t panic after the Mcrattlesnake bit or the QB that left us the night before our season, he’s surely not gonna panic now

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I don't see Rivers disrupting his life unless he thinks he won't be returning to that life for a while.  Signing a contract soon, only to have Wentz recover to where Phil wastes his time on the bench after one game, I wouldn't think would be a risk he would want to take.

 

Or any vet for that matter. 

I say rivers only if Wentz is confirmed out for the season. 

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6 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

JMV is Absolutly trashing Eason. Saying there is no way thdy can go with Eason.

 

Meh.  Consider the source.

 

The next time I care what JMV has to say about anything will be the first.  Guys like him thrive on this sort of thing, because hyperbole drives ratings.

 

I don't know if we can start Eason in a regular season game.  How would I?  How would JMV?  But, if we can't, I have faith that Reich and Ballard know that and will seek out another option.

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2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Yep. If he didn’t panic after the Mcrattlesnake bit or the QB that left us the night before our season, he’s surely not gonna panic now

I say rivers only if Wentz is confirmed out for the season. 

Yes.  If Ballard did not feel the need to sign a vet already given Wentz injury history and that concern being baked into the trade compensation, I don't see where the possibility of Wentz missing one or two games changing that.  Just gotta roll.

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