Update: What number will Wentz wear? (merge)

[NewColtsFan]

30 minutes ago, tvturner said:

He'd crumble under the pressure of that number

He might struggle wearing 18, anyone would.
 

But 12?   I don’t think anyone would struggle with that and I’m the Luck Guy. 

[DattMavis]

They are going to unretire 18, and give it to Wentz.

[Gigc]

They'll give him a question mark.

Or an exclamation point.

[Nancy]

Can our QB have a full head of hair? 

[EastStreet]

2 minutes ago, Nancy said:

Can our QB have a full head of hair? 

 

 

how about a full head of hair, plus a dominating facial mullet. 

 

[Smoke317]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

He might struggle wearing 18, anyone would.
 

But 12?   I don’t think anyone would struggle with that and I’m the Luck Guy. 

He couldn’t come in wearing #12 playing like he played this past season.  People can be mad at Luck all they want but more often than not that dude balled out at a high level.  As a guy who has questioned Wentz’ mental toughness, I see no way he’d want to invite those comparisons by adding more pressure wearing that number. 

[coming on strong]

ballard already confirmed he is talking to the eagles about wentz only the colts and bears are interested and colts are the ones with the cap space .   we get a young QB who put up 3 years of good numbers and had one bad year .  eagles had a horrible line weapons and ran a bad offense . under reich wentz will go over 30 touchdowns and keep the picks low and colts will be a 12 or more win team again every year. 

[r a y s k i]

 

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, coming on strong said:

ballard already confirmed he is talking to the eagles about wentz only the colts and bears are interested and colts are the ones with the cap space .   we get a young QB who put up 3 years of good numbers and had one bad year .  eagles had a horrible line weapons and ran a bad offense . under reich wentz will go over 30 touchdowns and keep the picks low and colts will be a 12 or more win team again every year. 

Where did Ballard say that?

[Shive]

43 minutes ago, rayski said:

 

If there's truth to that, we're out. Ballard doesn't do bidding wars and if the price is already driven up, there's no way Ballard tries to top the Bears' offer.

 

Time for:  

6 hours ago, EastStreet said:

 

 

[Mr.NotSoCreative]

This guy got benched for a rookie. Has contract issues. Hasn't had a good season since, not sure, but not recently. Is a hopeful reclamation project, not what I want as quarterback situation.

[csmopar]

53 minutes ago, rayski said:

 

Please go to chicago

[richard pallo]

48 minutes ago, rayski said:

 

That tweet was yesterday around 2PM.  Starting to approach 24 hrs ago.  Not done yet apparently. 

[danlhart87]

7 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

That tweet was yesterday around 2PM.  Starting to approach 24 hrs ago.  Not done yet apparently. 

I'm not expecting an announcement until next week whoever it is

[richard pallo]

5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I'm not expecting an announcement until next week whoever it is

I think it will leak by then if a deal is reached.  It won't take long as the inner circle expands.  For the media it's a race to break the story.  

[Dark Superman]

Watch him wear 12.

[TimetobringDfence!]

15 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

Ballard won't get fired anytime soon 

When did I say he would be fired lol. I'm just saying his weak spot will be QB decisions. His downside would be better wording. Paying JB that much money was a mistake. Signing Carson would make his QB decisions very suspect. Trust me I love Ballard I honestly dont think Wentz is in our cards.

[horseshoepower]

12 hours ago, Nancy said:

Can our QB have a full head of hair? 

What the hell does this have to do with anything on this thread? Curtis Painter had a lot of hair!

[AKB]

22 hours ago, EastStreet said:

Pittman wore 6 at USC. It's just silly that the NCAA and the NFL can't have the same rules around numbering. 

 

If Wentz wants 11, he needs to make a financially lucrative offer to Pittman lol... enough to make Pittman move to 10, 15, 18, 19, 82, 83, 87, 88, or 89.... As an X, I like Pittman with 88.

15 is campbell.

and 88 is retired. 18 also?

[presto123]

I say get Fitzpatrick and use him as a stop gap until we can draft or develop our future QB. Fitz over Brissett any day of the week.

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, AustinnKaine said:

15 is campbell.

and 88 is retired. 18 also?

88 isn't retired.   18 is

[deedub75]

1 hour ago, presto123 said:

I say get Fitzpatrick and use him as a stop gap until we can draft or develop our future QB. Fitz over Brissett any day of the week.

 

We're gonna be stop gapping forever. If we are gonna go with a stop gap, might as well keep Brissett or Eason. 

If Ballard is seriously trying to get Wentz then maybe there's a little fire under him. Just a tiny flame thought. Irsay could also be pushing this.  

[AKB]

19 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

88 isn't retired.   18 is

trust me, its retired. Even if it hasn't been done so officially. We won't see someone else in that number. 

[ThorstenDenmark]

A signing of Wentz would make me lose faith in Ballard.

 

Wentz is no good and wont make us any better.

[MFT5]

1 hour ago, ThorstenDenmark said:

A signing of Wentz would make me lose faith in Ballard.

 

Wentz is no good and wont make us any better.

 

if yu were the gm you wouldn't understand the difference between signing & trading. 

 

yu wouldn't make us any better

[NewColtsFan]

On 2/6/2021 at 10:57 AM, TimetobringDfence! said:

When did I say he would be fired lol. I'm just saying his weak spot will be QB decisions. His downside would be better wording. Paying JB that much money was a mistake. Signing Carson would make his QB decisions very suspect. Trust me I love Ballard I honestly dont think Wentz is in our cards.

Paying JB was not a mistake.   It didn’t stop us from doing anything we wanted.   I think we were roughly $50 million under the cap this year?   More?

 

There's a difference in you not liking a decision and noting that the decision was a mistake.    It can be one without the other.  
 

Im sorry we haven’t had a young, franchise level QB in two years.   It may be a year or two more.   But we will soon find out.  

[NewColtsFan]

On 2/6/2021 at 6:01 AM, richard pallo said:

I think it will leak by then if a deal is reached.  It won't take long as the inner circle expands.  For the media it's a race to break the story.  

I’m thinking Wednesday of this coming week?   Could be Tuesday if the Wentz deal is done with Chicago.   Could be Wednesday if the deal is with the Colts. 
 

Im guessing Monday we talk Super Bowl?

Tuesday, perhaps Peyton comes to town to talk Hall of Fame?   Wednesday, if they trade for Wentz, perhaps the Colts announce the deal then?   Thursday at the latest? 
 

Could be a full week.  

[HectorRoberts]

10 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Paying JB was not a mistake.   It didn’t stop us from doing anything we wanted.   I think we were roughly $50 million under the cap this year?   More?

 

There's a difference in you not liking a decision and noting that the decision was a mistake.    It can be one without the other.  
 

Im sorry we haven’t had a young, franchise level QB in two years.   It may be a year or two more.   But we will soon find out.  

I’m all for bring Jb back again, just as an insurance policy In case we get the 2020 wentz

[Myles]

On 2/6/2021 at 8:27 PM, deedub75 said:

 

We're gonna be stop gapping forever. If we are gonna go with a stop gap, might as well keep Brissett or Eason. 

If Ballard is seriously trying to get Wentz then maybe there's a little fire under him. Just a tiny flame thought. Irsay could also be pushing this.  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

 

I'm warming up of Wentz after looking through his stats.   The potential is there, but I don't want the Colts to give up much to get him.   It's almost a favor by taking his salary off the Eagles.   

[Valpo2004]

On 2/5/2021 at 1:55 PM, EastStreet said:

IMO, he's only had one truly good year. 2017 was good QBR wise. 16 and 20 were bad. 18 and 19 mediocre.

 

And he's only played 2 full years. 

 

So we have

 

1. Health concerns

2. Broken-ness concerns

3. Locker room concerns

4. High contract and bad dead cap concerns

5. He wants to leave Philly after they just fired a HC for him and brought in new staff just for him, concern... 

 

And all that risk for one good QBR year, in which he only played 13 games.

 

His passer rating was 102.2 in 2018.  It was 93.1 in 2019.  I don't know what his QBR was but it couldn't have been that bad with passer ratings like that.  

 

1. This is a concern, but he has been healthier the last 2 years.  He played all of 2019 and was healthy for all of 2020 and only didn't play because the Eagles decided to see what they had in Hurts and tank.

 

2. I don't think one year will break a QB's confidence if that's what you mean.  Luck had a terrible year once, everyone seems to forget that year though.  

 

3. If Reich ok's the trade for him (Which he would almost have to ok a trade for a QB, especially one that he worked with previously) than I have no concerns here.  Reich knows how he is as a player and in the locker room.  If Reich told Ballard he doesn't want Wentz than I would say Ballard shouldn't trade even a 7th round conditional for him.  

 

4. That is overplayed.  The Eagles would have to pay the signing bonus so his cap hit to us next year would be 24.4 million all of which is guaranteed.  (But you arn't going to cut him the same year you trade for him anyways.)  After that his 2022 salary is going to be partially guaranteed because it partially guarantees on the 3rd day of the 2021 league year (I can't find the amount.) . . . the rest of it guarantees on the 3rd day of the 2022 league year.   His 2022 cap hit would be 22 million.

 

After 2022 he would have ZERO guaranteed money on his contract.

 

Even with all the money on his contract combined Wentz's APR is only 8th right now in terms of QB's and he is almost certain to drop to 9th when Dak get's his new deal.

 

5. Watson who is younger, wants out of Houston and if Houston would be willing to trade him in the division everyone would want him.  

 

Wentz has received mixed signals from the organization as to if they even want him to be the QB of the Eagles or not.  Watson on the other hand has only gotten "We love you, please stay" from the Texans but still wants out.  I hardly blame a guy for not wanting to hang around a place where it's not even clear if he's wanted.  

[Stephen]

Yea trade for wentz and lose to brady in super bowl

[chad72]

Just now, Stephen said:

Yea trade for wentz and lose to brady in super bowl

 

Not if we get Foles for backup.... 

[Stephen]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

Not if we get Foles for backup.... 

Lol

[conklincolt]

On 2/5/2021 at 1:10 PM, EastStreet said:

 

I feel like I'm having a premonition... Here's my fear. 

 

Feb2021 - Colts send a 2021 2R pick + starter, or 2021 2R + conditional 2022 SR to the Eagles for Wentz

Jan2022 - Colts miss the playoffs at 9-7. Decide to stick with Wentz. TN wins the AFCS. 

Jan2023 - Colts miss the playoffs at 8-8. Decide to stick with Wentz. Jax with Lawrence win the AFCS. TN WC.

Jan2024 - Colts miss the playoffs at 9-7. Jax again, Houston WC. Stuck with Wentz in his last year. Keep him as backup. Reich fired.

Apr2024 - Colts draft a QB in middle of the 1R. Colts hire Sirianni as HC... Rinse, repeat..... 

 

well hells bells  lets bring manning back for next year while we find a QB. With the team we have now,manning didn't have most his seasons ,I thinks P.Manning would do well.  If Brady is still doing it , so could he. 

[coach kline]

0 which is equivalent to his ability 

[Valpo2004]

I am hoping for a trade for Wentz.  I find it shocking how many people hate the idea of trading for a guy with 2 great and 1 good season but at the same time love the idea of trading for Sam Darnold who never had a single season that could be described as anything other than bad or terrible.  

[Fluke_33]

13 hours ago, HectorRoberts said:

69!!!!

And there it is.  Took 3 pages.  lol!

[TimetobringDfence!]

20 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Paying JB was not a mistake.   It didn’t stop us from doing anything we wanted.   I think we were roughly $50 million under the cap this year?   More?

 

There's a difference in you not liking a decision and noting that the decision was a mistake.    It can be one without the other.  
 

Im sorry we haven’t had a young, franchise level QB in two years.   It may be a year or two more.   But we will soon find out.  

JB was over paid without a doubt. He is worth more like 12 to 15 mil a year. We were in a tough spot, but the man didn't deserve that pay.

[TimetobringDfence!]

20 hours ago, HectorRoberts said:

I’m all for bring Jb back again, just as an insurance policy In case we get the 2020 wentz

If JB will accept a much lower deal I'm okay with it. The man is 12mil QB.

[TimetobringDfence!]

7 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

I am hoping for a trade for Wentz.  I find it shocking how many people hate the idea of trading for a guy with 2 great and 1 good season but at the same time love the idea of trading for Sam Darnold who never had a single season that could be described as anything other than bad or terrible.  

I dont like either honestly. I'd like Mariota or Carr before either. Cousins would be nice too. I'm hoping Rodgers was serious and is playing mum now. We would win SBs with him for sure. We have everything he doesn't have in GB. He was * they didn't go for it, he knows Frank would!