ThorstenDenmark Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Yesssss.... Im thrilled, because I never liked Stafford But now... well... just hope we don't go all in for Wentz :/ because he's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorstenDenmark Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 5 hours ago, New Zealands #1 Colts Fan said: I don't think 1 of the top 6 qbs will fall to us because of this trade. We are still behind jags,jets,falcons,panthers,broncos,giants,49ers,Patriots, washington and the bears who could all draft a quarter back. Giants, washington wont draft a QB, and the falcons still have Ryan... and I don't think they will move on from him just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate! Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 If I’m Matthew Stafford, once trade officially processed, I hold out for a contract extension with some new guaranteed money long term and up front. Rams are an injury or two away from being like the Texans where will end up having given away a premium first or two for little success. They saw the risk was worth it. If they end up winning an SB, will rewrite the thinking on how to win in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Now lets listen up for the Texans GM Nick Caserio and their new HC who declare Watson will not be traded knowing now what they could demand and most likely get for a young Watson after the Lions soak the Rams for 33 year old Stafford. Watson has removed all connections to his Facebook page and as I have posted earlier Watson dislikes the Texans is putting it mildly. And now what will the Colts come up with for a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indeee Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 hours ago, danlhart87 said: Rams hate 1st rounders THIS IS HUGE FOR COLTS!!! A QB should drop now for us Dude I'm never sure where your logic comes from in any of your posts? It's like you are never paying attention. How is this HUGE FOR COLTS!!??? Other than the Lions not possibly taking a QB in the 1st, which imo is still on the table, it only eliminates 1 team out of 13 at least that might have wanted QB's as the Rams were never in that conversation until a week ago. So it's like rams don't even count Jags Broncos Falcons Jets maybe, but I doubt it Patriots Panthers Lions (still) Washington Vikings (yes don't count Vike's out) Bears ALL before Colts pick at 21... others being Colts, Steelers, 49ers, and Raiders and you think QB's are going to drop to us? I mean anything is possible, but this is highly unlikely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 9 hours ago, chad72 said: Yes, but I wish neither team the best because I don’t care . However, given the talent on the Rams roster, I’d say the Rams would see the return much quicker. Oh sure, its a great trade for both.....which is why trades happen they way they do. If we're looking for one team to fleece another in a trade, that usually doesn't happen. Stafford can play at a high level for three more years. The Rams window is that. They draft pretty well, and find players. They don't really need low first round picks. And Stafford's contract is actually pretty cheap, allowing LAR to find FA vets to fill holes. DET has a bridge QB. They can take a QB at 7 or sell it. They will have an expensive QB who takes too much cap, but they will also have two first round picks in each of the next two years. Two high in the round, and two low, plus whatever they accumulate from selling pick 7. Lots of good players on cheap rookie contracts to fit with Goff's bloated one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imgrandojji Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 14 hours ago, bestQBever said: starting to sweat a little bit wondering who our QB is gonna be next year..... Eason is a fine insurance policy. Not too worried myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv_pony_express Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said: Eason is a fine insurance policy. Not too worried myself. That requires a lot of optimistic assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imgrandojji Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, luv_pony_express said: That requires a lot of optimistic assumptions. That's true of most insurance policy QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv_pony_express Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said: That's true of most insurance policy QBs I’m not sure I agree with that. Jacob Eason is an unknown, a cipher. The whole idea of any insurance policy is predictable assurance in the event of the hoped for outcome not panning out for whatever reason. Jacoby Brissett worked well as an insurance policy for a 38 year old quarterback. We knew what we had in Brissett, but the hope was that Rivers would be an upgrade. Every Colts partisan hopes that Eason will prove to be a useful asset in one way or another. But nobody has cause to definitively say he is: he’s yet to step on the field taking live bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJax Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 Matt Ryan is still available, he's 35 but still can sling it for a few more years. I'd give a #2 pick for him, but the Patriot's may be in that market as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, ColtJax said: Matt Ryan is still available, he's 35 but still can sling it for a few more years. I'd give a #2 pick for him, but the Patriot's may be in that market as well. He would cost a 1st and no thanks 6 hours ago, csmopar said: yes for what the rams gave up goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 I was never really loving the Stafford for a haul prospect. Definitely glad we didn't bite. Someone will fall in the draft like they always do. Go draft a kid this year and find another retread for the year along with another QB in the draft the following year if need be. If you're a doom and gloomer it might be a long year, but I'm ok with building this thing up some more and dropping the QB in without rushing them in or settling for one of the FA ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, IinD said: I was never really loving the Stafford for a haul prospect. Definitely glad we didn't bite. Someone will fall in the draft like they always do. Go draft a kid this year and find another retread for the year along with another QB in the draft the following year if need be. If you're a doom and gloomer it might be a long year, but I'm ok with building this thing up some more and dropping the QB in without rushing them in or settling for one of the FA ones. The doom and gloom crowd never changes no matter what the Colts do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 14 hours ago, Indeee said: Dude I'm never sure where your logic comes from in any of your posts? It's like you are never paying attention. How is this HUGE FOR COLTS!!??? Other than the Lions not possibly taking a QB in the 1st, which imo is still on the table, it only eliminates 1 team out of 13 at least that might have wanted QB's as the Rams were never in that conversation until a week ago. So it's like rams don't even count Jags Broncos Falcons Jets maybe, but I doubt it Patriots Panthers Lions (still) Washington Vikings (yes don't count Vike's out) Bears ALL before Colts pick at 21... others being Colts, Steelers, 49ers, and Raiders and you think QB's are going to drop to us? I mean anything is possible, but this is highly unlikely I only see 4 QBs going top 25. Lawrence Fields Wilson Jones or Lance Either could fall Jones due to being pure pocket passer Lance played 1 game so might need work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 It wouldn't even surprise if only 3 went 1st Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, danlhart87 said: It wouldn't even surprise if only 3 went 1st Round Im expecting more than 3 in the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 At first I was upset that we didn't land Stafford, until I saw the haul Detroit pulled in for him......pure insanity. Watson's worth just skyrocketed as well. I hope Eason is ready, and Brissett is NOT part of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackrel829 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/02/01/mmqb-super-bowl-week-matthew-stafford-trade-negotiations-los-angeles-rams Apparently the Colts never offered #21 for Stafford. They discussed packages but wouldn't include their first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJax Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 If Trask falls to the 2nd he'll be a steal. Hell, he might go at the bottom of the 1st. The Colts are a ready to win team, we need a QB that can win now. Ryan can, Cam cannot. Winston might, but the Saints will take him out. Kurt Cousin may be available, but I think he's no better than what we just had. Others like Watson or Dak would cost a ton, and neither would be a good fit. So for me it's Ryan or trade up in the draft. All the rest are players that will take up to 9-7 or 10-6 and out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ColtJax said: If Trask falls to the 2nd he'll be a steal. Hell, he might go at the bottom of the 1st. The Colts are a ready to win team, we need a QB that can win now. Ryan can, Cam cannot. Winston might, but the Saints will take him out. Kurt Cousin may be available, but I think he's no better than what we just had. Others like Watson or Dak would cost a ton, and neither would be a good fit. So for me it's Ryan or trade up in the draft. All the rest are players that will take up to 9-7 or 10-6 and out.. Watson wouldn't be a good fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineColtsFan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 On 1/30/2021 at 9:40 PM, Mel Kiper's Hair said: So if the Lions got that for Stafford, I imagine that the Texans won't take anything less than 3 first round picks for Deshaun Watson. The new GM in Houston has to be smiling tonight! Why? Watson is younger but he's not as good a QB as Stafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, WolverineColtsFan said: Why? Watson is younger but he's not as good a QB as Stafford. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, WolverineColtsFan said: Why? Watson is younger but he's not as good a QB as Stafford. Watson will bring far more than Stafford if he is in fact traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineColtsFan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, NFLfan said: What makes you say that? I'm just not a fan of Watson... I don't think he's a bad QB but I think it's too easy for good defenses to stop him because I don't think he has ever progressed to the point to where he can do multiple reads when need be. He can look at his first option and sometimes the 2nd, if the 2nd option is on the same side of the field as the first option. But then that is it. While he is very athletic, I don't think he's makes good decisions on when to run and when to buy more time. Now all that being said, I do think this past year he made some improvements in some of those areas but I don't think he is a QB that will take a team to the next level. IMO, he's good enough to take a good team to the playoffs but for them to go far it would have to a situation like the 2000 Ravens with Dilfer at QB, where the rest of the team is just too good to not win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineColtsFan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: Watson will bring far more than Stafford if he is in fact traded That's fine. I'm not saying my opinion is the only one that matters or the only one that is accurate. Just my opinion and it disagrees with yours. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLfan Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, WolverineColtsFan said: I'm just not a fan of Watson... I don't think he's a bad QB but I think it's too easy for good defenses to stop him because I don't think he has ever progressed to the point to where he can do multiple reads when need be. He can look at his first option and sometimes the 2nd, if the 2nd option is on the same side of the field as the first option. But then that is it. While he is very athletic, I don't think he's makes good decisions on when to run and when to buy more time. Now all that being said, I do think this past year he made some improvements in some of those areas but I don't think he is a QB that will take a team to the next level. IMO, he's good enough to take a good team to the playoffs but for them to go far it would have to a situation like the 2000 Ravens with Dilfer at QB, where the rest of the team is just too good to not win. Okay, I hear you. Although stats are not everything, Watson has consistently put up better stats than Stafford. Some may say that he had Hopkins but he did not have Hopkins this year; yet he still performed well. In fact, he had his best statistical year of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineColtsFan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 7:34 PM, NFLfan said: Okay, I hear you. Although stats are not everything, Watson has consistently put up better stats than Stafford. Some may say that he had Hopkins but he did not have Hopkins this year; yet he still performed well. In fact, he had his best statistical year of his career. Hey didn't want you to think I'm ignoring you. I just dont log in very often. Stats are not everything and Watson does put up some good overall stats. But the stats I typically look at are 3rd down, especially 3 and 4 or greater. Stats when trailing with less than 2 minutes things like that. And in those categories Watson is mediocre. Of course this post may be all moot now, with the pending lawsuits Watson might be out of the league by the time 2021 rolls around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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