Poll - QB Preference (now that PR has officially retired) (merge)

[luv_pony_express]

26 minutes ago, krunk said:

Seeing new reports about them putting Roquan Smith in the deal.

If they do that, they go from stupid to stupid squared.

[NewColtsFan]

I think this feels like a Chicago win for Wentz. But if it turns out the Colts get him I think Wentz needs to demonstrate real leadership. 
 

Most players are either not getting the raise in pay they hoped for,  or they may get a pay cut.  
 

Show some leadership on your new team.  Take a cut and take incentives to earn the rest back.  Do it this year when teams will suffer some real salary cap pain due to Covid.   That’s what real leaders do.  
 

Now we wait to find out who gets CW, and who is still looking for their next quarterback. 

[danlhart87]

32 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

I think this feels like a Chicago win for Wentz. But if it turns out the Colts get him I think Wentz needs to demonstrate real leadership. 
 

Most players are either not getting the raise in pay they hoped for,  or they may get a pay cut.  
 

Show some leadership on your new team.  Take a cut and take incentives to earn the rest back.  Do it this year when teams will suffer some real salary cap pain due to Covid.   That’s what real leaders do.  
 

Now we wait to find out who gets CW, and who is still looking for their next quarterback. 

Wentz better hope he comes here cause Chicago line is crap 

[danlhart87]

@w87r

 

[w87r]

[danlhart87]

 

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[w87r]

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I need a tweet

 

[PrincetonTiger]

6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

 

Coming in here like 

Don’t trigger the IU fans

 

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[pgt_rob]

If Ballard is considering Wentz for sure, I really hope they’ve done their research. I really hope the reports of Wentz being somewhat uncoachable and doesn’t man up to his mistakes to be true. Those are just really bad traits to have as your franchise QB. But I think he would thrive better in Indy than Chicago. Can we kick the tires on Carr? (Haha). I feel like Gruden doesn’t like him. Offer up our 1st rounder and Okereke?

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

 

[luv_pony_express]

4 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

If Ballard is considering Wentz for sure, I really hope they’ve done their research. I really hope the reports of Wentz being somewhat uncoachable and doesn’t man up to his mistakes to be true. Those are just really bad traits to have as your franchise QB. But I think he would thrive better in Indy than Chicago. Can we kick the tires on Carr? (Haha). I feel like Gruden doesn’t like him. Offer up our 1st rounder and Okereke?

I’m not worried about him being coachable.  His former OC is our head coach.  Clearly, they get along just fine or this wouldn’t be happening.

 

My problem is that, coachable or not, he has clearly taken several steps back after his knee injury.  We have to hope those steps back are temporary - and it can only be a hope.

[danlhart87]

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-crabbs-5.0

 

I make this trade 10 times out of 10

[PrincetonTiger]

5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-crabbs-5.0

 

I make this trade 10 times out of 10

 

[Dingus McGirt]

7 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:

I’m not worried about him being coachable.  His former OC is our head coach.  Clearly, they get along just fine or this wouldn’t be happening.

 

My problem is that, coachable or not, he has clearly taken several steps back after his knee injury.  We have to hope those steps back are temporary - and it can only be a hope.

 But...is “this” really happening - or is it all fan and “expert” - driven conjecture?  Guess we’ll know soon enough.

[danlhart87]

3 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

 

You rather have 3rd and future 4th?

[TheNextGM]

11 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-crabbs-5.0

 

I make this trade 10 times out of 10

I like the trade up but take Pitts instead of Jones. Wentz likes throwing to TEs.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

You rather have 3rd and future 4th?

Yes especially when it would affect the development of JE and we would have to give up a lot more

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, TheNextGM said:

I like the trade up but take Pitts instead of Jones. Wentz likes throwing to TEs.

Isn't Wentz going to Chi Town 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, TheNextGM said:

I like the trade up but take Pitts instead of Jones. Wentz likes throwing to TEs.

I have a feeling that our first pick will be used to get an OL

 

   

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, TheNextGM said:

I like the trade up but take Pitts instead of Jones. Wentz likes throwing to TEs.

If we had Wentz we wouldn't trade up btw 

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

If we had Wentz we wouldn't trade up btw 

And we arent trading up for TE lol

[w87r]

5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

If we had Wentz we wouldn't trade up btw 

Exactly because we wouldn't ha e a 1st.

 

3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

And we arent trading up for TE lol

Exactly x 2

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

Exactly because we wouldn't ha e a 1st.

 

Exactly x 2

Would you do the trade above 

[luv_pony_express]

17 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

 But...is “this” really happening - or is it all fan and “expert” - driven conjecture?  Guess we’ll know soon enough.

I mean that the Colts have at least expressed interest, if not a formal offer.  That doesn’t seem like idle speculation.

 

That wouldn’t be happening without Reich’s buy-in.  And Reich has actually coached him, up close and personal.

 

Point is:  all this talk about his relationships with coaches doesn’t concern me.  His very poor play this past season concerns me.

[danlhart87]

15 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

I have a feeling that our first pick will be used to get an OL

 

   

That depends on QB situation 

If they still don't have one trade up for QB

[w87r]

9 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Would you do the trade above 

Im not trading up for anybody from #21. If Jones falls to #21 sure. Value is good, but like PT said it would take more than that.

 

#14 - 1100pts

 

#21 - 800pts

#84 -170pts

2022 4th - 30-40pts(devalued to 5th round)

 

 

Full 100pts short on value chart

 

Probably would take our 1st and 2nd with

maybe getting 4th/ or 5th round pick back.

 

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Ind

 

More likely we trade back, tbh.

[danlhart87]

Just now, w87r said:

Im not trading up for anybody from #21. If Jones falls to #21 sure. Value is good, but like PT said it would take more than that.

 

#14 - 1100pts

 

#21 - 800pts

#84 -170pts

2022 4th - 30-40pts(devalued to 5th round)

 

 

Full 100pts short on value chart

 

Probably would take our 1st and 2nd with

maybe getting 4th/ or 5th round pick back.

 

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=Ind

 

More likely we trade back, tbh.

if the right QB is within range i will gladly trade up

[IndySouthsider]

33 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/2021-nfl-mock-draft-crabbs-5.0

 

I make this trade 10 times out of 10

He isn’t going round 1. If the colts want him, they can wait

[danlhart87]

Just now, IndySouthsider said:

He isn’t going round 1. If the colts want him, they can wait

That would be even better 

His stock rose after great senior bowl 

[PrincetonTiger]

6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

if the right QB is within range i will gladly trade up

As @w87r showed the #14 is not attainable without giving up a lot 

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

As @w87r showed the #14 is not attainable without giving up a lot 

I meant in general

[PrincetonTiger]

3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

That would be even better 

His stock rose after great senior bowl 

He didn’t have a senior bowl unless you count his interview skills 

  He has several good practices

[richard pallo]

3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

That would be even better 

His stock rose after great senior bowl 

Not worth thinking about.  We are trading for Wentz.  

[w87r]

6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

if the right QB is within range i will gladly trade up

That's the problem. Who is the right QB?

 

Its a gamble. The top 4-5 in draft will already most likely be gone in top 10. Craps shoot from there. No need to force it.(Ballards words)

 

I like Mac Jones just as much as you do, too.

 

[danlhart87]

Just now, richard pallo said:

Not worth thinking about.  We are trading for Wentz.  

Says who

[IndySouthsider]

Just now, richard pallo said:

Not worth thinking about.  We are trading for Wentz.  

If we give up what’s rumored I will be shocked. That’s the anti Chris Ballard 

[danlhart87]

Just now, w87r said:

That's the problem. Who is the right QB?

 

Its a gamble. The top 4-5 in draft will already most likely be gone in top 10. Craps shoot from there. No need to force it.(Ballards words)

 

I like Mac Jones just as much as you do, too.

 

Like I said it's worth the risk if they don't have anybody come draft time 

Just now, IndySouthsider said:

If we give up what’s rumored I will be shocked. That’s the anti Chris Ballard 

If they get that 37th pick back it helps a lot

[w87r]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

Says who

Vosh. Is that his name? Lol I don't even know.

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

Like I said it's worth the risk if they don't have anybody come draft time 

We are not going into the draft with only Eason. I guarantee that.

[danlhart87]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Not worth thinking about.  We are trading for Wentz.  

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