Poll - QB Preference (now that PR has officially retired) (merge)

[ColtStrong2013]

37 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

If true sounds like Ballard has made a reasonable offer.  Now we see who blinks first or if someone else offers more.  

I wouldn’t want to get in a staring contest with Ballard...

[BProland85]

35 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

If true sounds like Ballard has made a reasonable offer.  Now we see who blinks first or if someone else offers more.  

Im hoping Ballard doesn’t give up two 2nd rounders for Wentz. I still think that’s too much considering we’re taking on his contract. Plus personally I’d rather get a Fields or Wilson in the draft by using that draft capital to move up. 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Im hoping Ballard doesn’t give up two 2nd rounders for Wentz. I still think that’s too much considering we’re taking on his contract. Plus personally I’d rather get a Fields or Wilson in the draft by using that draft capital to move up. 

Fields and Wilson are definitely unattainable from 21

[ColtStrong2013]

26 minutes ago, Thebrashandthebold said:

I think the Colts are going to take a step back next year with almost any QB they get. I think they are 8-8 give or take a win or loss. 

I think you are off...

[BlackTiger]

They want too much for Carson Wentz, I hope the Colts pass on him and move on to the draft and free agency.  I am not remotely convinced he is the answer for us, he is a high risk project 

[PeterBowman]

The positive of the Wentz contract is that the guaranteed money ends after 2 years. So if they can release him with no dead money after then.

[BProland85]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Fields and Wilson are definitely unattainable 

I don’t believe that to be the case. I wouldn’t have thought a team could move all the way from 27 to 10 overall to get a sought after QB, but KC did back in 2017. 

[MarquisJ]

 

[BlackTiger]

Just now, BProland85 said:

I don’t believe that to be the case. I wouldn’t have thought a team could move all the way from 27 to 10 overall to get a sought after QB, but KC did back in 2017. 

 

They will probably be gone by 10, they could both be gone by pick 4

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, MarquisJ said:

 

Not going to happen with our draft capital and other needs

 

 

 

 

[richard pallo]

4 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Im hoping Ballard doesn’t give up two 2nd rounders for Wentz. I still think that’s too much considering we’re taking on his contract. Plus personally I’d rather get a Fields or Wilson in the draft by using that draft capital to move up. 

It certainly doesn't look like Ballard thinks two 2nd's is too much.  That's what he thinks is a fair offer.  

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, BlackTiger said:

 

They will probably be gone by 10, they could both be gone by pick 4

That is how I see it

[PrincetonTiger]

[BProland85]

5 minutes ago, MarquisJ said:

 

Hope so! And it wouldn’t be a massive trade up. Wilson or Fields could possibly be had at pick 7. 

[richard pallo]

8 minutes ago, MarquisJ said:

 

You don't think the Colts mulled this over before trying to trade for Stafford or Wentz?  I do.  Nothings changed.  I think this is out there to get the Eagles off their butt.  Two can play the game. 

[PeterBowman]

Just now, richard pallo said:

You don't think the Colts mulled this over before trying to trade for Stafford or Wentz?  I do.  Nothings changed.  I think this is out there to get the Eagles off their butt.  Two can play the game. 

And Ballard is already a better gm

[PrincetonTiger]

4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

You don't think the Colts mulled this over before trying to trade for Stafford or Wentz?  I do.  Nothings changed.  I think this is out there to get the Eagles off their butt.  Two can play the game. 

If the Brain Trust didn’t look into them before the trade talks the don’t belong in the NFL

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

And Ballard is already a better gm

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

And Ballard is already a better gm

Say what you will and I’m as big of a Ballard admirer as there is.....

 

But Ballard hasn’t won a Super Bowl.   Philly has.    I understand the rails have come off there,  but still...    Just saying... 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Breer never said he had sources they were going to trade up. That locked in colts podcaster always twists what is said. Breer said I sort of wonder if they would think of trading up. Lol

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Breer never said he had sources they were going to trade up. That locked in colts podcaster always twists what is said. Breer said I sort of wonder if they would think of trading up. Lol

This why I don’t follow or listen to them

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

This why I don’t follow or listen to them

One of my biggest pet peeves is people doing this. This is basically the telephone game. Yesterday he had to delete a post because he said Reich was pounding the table for Wentz. When in reality it was reported Reich thought they could build around him. There was no reason to put his commentary on it. Just post the quote.

[Four2itus]

53 minutes ago, Thebrashandthebold said:

I think the Colts are going to take a step back next year with almost any QB they get. I think they are 8-8 give or take a win or loss. 

With this running game and defense, they could trot Jacoby back out there and get 9 wins. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Just heard that

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Remember what I said last week.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Here is what Breer actually said.

 

 

[luv_pony_express]

20 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Hope so! And it wouldn’t be a massive trade up. Wilson or Fields could possibly be had at pick 7. 

If going from 22 to 7 isn’t a massive trade up, I don’t know what would be....especially when a slew of teams is looking for a QB.

 

Remember what we got from the NYets for them to just go from 6 to 3?

 

I think it’s possible we’re hearing about this as fodder for leverage with the Eagles.  I’m not saying Ballard would never trade up in the draft.  But it’s certainly not been his norm.  He seems to like profiting off others wanting to trade up.

[PrincetonTiger]

10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

One of my biggest pet peeves is people doing this. This is basically the telephone game. Yesterday he had to delete a post because he said Reich was pounding the table for Wentz. When in reality it was reported Reich thought they could build around him. There was no reason to put his commentary on it. Just post the quote.

I relate the way some of these podcasts are run to using the Guy down at the local gas station as your only source for local HS or College Athletic Information

1 minute ago, luv_pony_express said:

If going from 22 to 7 isn’t a massive trade up, I don’t know what would be....especially when a slew of teams is looking for a QB.

 

Remember what we got from the NYets for them to just go from 6 to 3?

 

I think it’s possible we’re hearing about this as fodder for leverage with the Eagles.  I’m not saying Ballard would never trade up in the draft.  But it’s certainly not been his norm.  He seems to like profiting off others wanting to trade up.

I was wondering the same thing

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

We would have to do a coordinated trade to get that far up. First player second draft picks. Fields is most likely going to the jets or falcons so both  him and Wilson will probably be gone and won’t even have a place to trade up too. 

 

Just saw a Chicago guy say looks like bears and colts could move on from Wentz. That is going to make him available soon because eagles are not going to get what they want.

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

We would have to do a coordinated trade to get that far up. First player second draft picks. Fields is most likely going to the jets or falcons so both  him and Wilson will probably be gone and won’t even have a place to trade up too. 

 

Just saw a Chicago guy say looks like bears and colts could move on from Wentz. That is going to make him available soon because eagles are not going to get what they want.

It's cause the Eagles want too much. 

Nobody is gonna give them what they want 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

We would have to do a coordinated trade to get that far up. First player second draft picks. Fields is most likely going to the jets or falcons so both  him and Wilson will probably be gone and won’t even have a place to trade up too. 

 

Just saw a Chicago guy say looks like bears and colts could move on from Wentz. That is going to make him available soon because eagles are not going to get what they want.

HR will regret that

Just now, danlhart87 said:

It's cause the Eagles want too much. 

Nobody is gonna give them what they want 

[John Waylon]

56 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

No free agent will want to come here without knowing the QB situation. Unless Ballard overpays. Which he won't.

 

Not buying. By this point Ballard has earned enough respect around the league that players know they are going to have a real shot to compete here regardless. No free agent is looking at the Colts as a team who can’t make the playoffs for the next several years, and I the better they do figuring that QB spot out the more likely they are to compete at a much higher level. 
 

Indy is one of the more attractive destinations for free agents right now even with the uncertainty at QB. 

[stitches]

Come on. Lets do this. (hopefully I can say the same on Draft day. 

[zibby43]

56 minutes ago, MarquisJ said:

 

Edit: Additional context was provided to corroborate the tweet.

[cdgacoltsfan]

9 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Not buying. By this point Ballard has earned enough respect around the league that players know they are going to have a real shot to compete here regardless. No free agent is looking at the Colts as a team who can’t make the playoffs for the next several years, and I the better they do figuring that QB spot out the more likely they are to compete at a much higher level. 
 

Indy is one of the more attractive destinations for free agents right now even with the uncertainty at QB. 

I disagree. The future in the NFL is going to become more NBA like. Do you think a marquee wide receiver would choose Indy over Tampa? I don't think so.

[zibby43]

10 minutes ago, stitches said:

Come on. Lets do this. (hopefully I can say the same on Draft day. 

I agree.  This is my favorite option.

By landing a rookie QB on a rookie contract, the Colts can address other positions of need by way of the additional cap space that will be freed up.

 

So, while I understand the concerns of losing draft capital, if they believe in the guy they’re trading up for, the value you are ultimately afforded substantially outweighs the short-term loss of draft capital.  

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Do you think a marquee wide receiver would choose Indy over Tampa? I don't think so.

Yes

[cdgacoltsfan]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Yes

Dream on.

[jvan1973]

7 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

I disagree. The future in the NFL is going to become more NBA like. Do you think a marquee wide receiver would choose Indy over Tampa? I don't think so.

The NFL will never be like the NBA.  The hard cap in the NFL prevents it.