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I'd be interested to see what people think would be reasonable offers for all of the Colts' impending free agents this off-season. Below is a list of all notable free agents - post how much you would be happy to pay them to come back next year and beyond. What's your walk away price?

 

TY Hilton

Marlon Mack

Justin Houston

Denico Autry

Xavier Rhodes

Anthony Walker Jr.

Malik Hooker

Jacoby Brissett

Zach Pascal

Mo-Alie Cox

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9 minutes ago, Mackrel829 said:

I'd be interested to see what people think would be reasonable offers for all of the Colts' impending free agents this off-season. Below is a list of all notable free agents - post how much you would be happy to pay them to come back next year and beyond. What's your walk away price?

 

TY Hilton

Marlon Mack

Justin Houston

Denico Autry

Xavier Rhodes

Anthony Walker Jr.

Malik Hooker

Jacoby Brissett

Zach Pascal

Mo-Alie Cox

 

Hilton: Under 10. I think he still thinks he's a #1, can't see him taking a pay cut, so he'd walk.

Mack: Writing is on the wall, basically offer him a contract at league min if he doesn't receive an offer.

Houston: Max 1 year, 7M, even that makes me uncomfortable. Sack numbers are good, but doesn't consistently create pressure.

Autry: Love him and his versatility. Max I'd offer is 10M per.

Rhodes: 1/2 years, 7M

Walker: Gunna walk, I'd keep him for 3M 

Hooker: Walk regardless

Brissett: Again, redundant, if he does come back it won't be for money.

Pascal: Still an RFA, so they could just use that, or sign him for 2/3 years at like 4M

MAC: Same as Pascal

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Hooker and Bristsett are gone

 

Houston is probably not going to be resigned due to his age

 

Rhodes should get a 3 year deal in the 20 million range

 

The rest should be back on reasonable contracts but this is the NFL and it is never that easy 

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TY Hilton -- three years, $30m

Marlon Mack -- vet minimum

Justin Houston -- two years, $14m

Denico Autry -- one year, $4m

Xavier Rhodes -- three years, $27m

Anthony Walker Jr. -- two years, $10m

Malik Hooker -- vet minimum

Jacoby Brissett -- one year, $3m

Zach Pascal -- vet minimum

Mo-Alie Cox -- vet minimum

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TY Hilton-  1 year, I wonder if he would accept an incentive deal

Marlon Mack-  I think he leaves to the highest bidder and it wont be us

Justin Houston-  Back for one more year at the same $

Denico Autry- Let walk for now

Xavier Rhodes- 2 year deal, would be longer but hes 31 

Anthony Walker Jr.- Leaves in free agency 

Malik Hooker-Let him test the market, maybe bring back if hes cheap

Zach Pascal- 2 year deal

Mo-Alie Cox- 2 year deal

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2 hours ago, Mackrel829 said:

I'd be interested to see what people think would be reasonable offers for all of the Colts' impending free agents this off-season. Below is a list of all notable free agents - post how much you would be happy to pay them to come back next year and beyond. What's your walk away price?

 

TY Hilton

Marlon Mack

Justin Houston

Denico Autry

Xavier Rhodes

Anthony Walker Jr.

Malik Hooker

Jacoby Brissett

Zach Pascal

Mo-Alie Cox


I believe Marlon Mack is as good as gone based on an article that was written post playoff loss. TY Hilton is IMO done here in Indy if he comes back it will be likely a one year deal. Hooker is another guy I think they’ll let test FA although I would like to see him back next year I like the idea of him and Blackmon roaming in the secondary. Walker may be a casualty with the emergence of Okereke. I’d like to see Autry , Xavier, Zach and Mo bought back. Justin Houston had a great run but we need a more dominant force on the edge. There are a few QB needy teams I could see Brisett opting to head elsewhere with a shot at being a Starting QB.

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3 hours ago, Mackrel829 said:

I'd be interested to see what people think would be reasonable offers for all of the Colts' impending free agents this off-season. Below is a list of all notable free agents - post how much you would be happy to pay them to come back next year and beyond. What's your walk away price?

 

TY Hilton

Marlon Mack

Justin Houston

Denico Autry

Xavier Rhodes

Anthony Walker Jr.

Malik Hooker

Jacoby Brissett

Zach Pascal

Mo-Alie Cox


Hilton:   2/16 with another 2 mill of possible incentives.

Mack:    1/1.75 with another 1.75 of possible incentives.    
Houston:   1/9 with another mill of possible incentives.

Autry:     2/13
Walker:   3/13

Hooker:   2 mill with 1.5 of possible incentives.

Brissett:   2/8

Pascal:     3/10

MAC:       3/10

 

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Just now, NewColtsFan said:


Hilton:   2/16 with another 2 mill of possible incentives.

Mack:    1/1.75 with another 1.75 of possible incentives.    
Houston:   1/9 with another mill of possible incentives.

Autry:     2/13
Walker:   3/13

Hooker:   2 mill with 1.5 of possible incentives.

Brissett:   2/8

Pascal:     3/10

MAC:       3/10

Rhodes:   2/16. Maybe 3/22.5

 

 

 

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TY Hilton (13M in 2020) -- 2 years, 16M

Marlon Mack (0.63M) -- 1 year 1M

Justin Houston (9M) -- 2 years, 16M

Denico Autry (5.7M) -- 1 year, 4M

Xavier Rhodes (3.25M) -- 2 years, 20M

Anthony Walker Jr. (2.1M) -- 2 years, 7M

Malik Hooker (3.1M) -- 2 years, 7M (only if we continue to play more single high C1/C3)

Jacoby Brissett (21.3M) -- 1 year, 2M (2 years if we intend to start Eason)

Zach Pascal (0.75M) -- choice between original round tender (2.1M) or 3 year 5M fully guaranteed

Mo-Alie Cox (0.75M) -- choice between second round tender (3.2M) or 3 year 7.5M fully guaranteed

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Im not good with the money part but heres my thoughts

 

TY Hilton - Walk

Marlon Mack- Walk

Justin Houston- Walk

Denico Autry-  2 Years

Xavier Rhodes- 2 Years

Anthony Walker Jr.- 1 Year

Malik Hooker- Walk

Jacoby Brissett- Walk

Zach Pascal- 4 years

Mo-Alie Cox-2 Years

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2 hours ago, Superman said:

TY Hilton -- three years, $30m

Marlon Mack -- vet minimum

Justin Houston -- two years, $14m

Denico Autry -- one year, $4m

Xavier Rhodes -- three years, $27m

Anthony Walker Jr. -- two years, $10m

Malik Hooker -- vet minimum

Jacoby Brissett -- one year, $3m

Zach Pascal -- vet minimum

Mo-Alie Cox -- vet minimum


I’m iffy on that Hilton offer.  Seems either too high or too long.

 

Mack, Hooker, Brissett are likely gone.  Maybe Walker, too.

 

Rhodes offer is awfully rich considering what he got this year.  I think he deserves an extension and a raise.  But not that much.

 

Autry has done better than 1 year/4M.

 

MAC can get more than that.  But maybe not in Indy as the 3rd TE.

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TY Hilton - Walk or a 1 year 5-7 million. His beast days are way over, he's a #3 at best

Marlon Mack- Walk, but a 1 year "prove it" deal for about 5 million would be nice.

Justin Houston- With the cap falling 20 million he's going to find no offers. 2 year 12/14 million total.

Denico Autry-  2 Years for 6-7 million per year, like Houston the market will be dry.

Xavier Rhodes- 2-3 years in the 10 per range.

Anthony Walker Jr.- 3 years 21 million

Malik Hooker- Walk or a 1 year team friendly prove it deal. 5 million.

Jacoby Brissett- Walk

Zach Pascal- 3 years 15 million, 5 per year is good for a 3/4 receiver

Mo-Alie Cox-3 Years in the 6-7 per year range.

 

This year the market is going to be very soft in the middle range. Teams are way over the cap as it is and the cap is reduced 20 million. Good players will be cheap for a year or two..

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To add some color around my recommendations

 

TY Hilton (13M in 2020) -- 2 years, 16M

--averages around 600ish yards the last two years. Needs to move to slot, and at most 8M a year.

 

Marlon Mack (0.63M) -- 1 year 1M

--only if he clears the physical and hasn't lost too much speed. 1M would be fine if he hasn't lost much. he knows the system, has good vision, and would make a great #2. He also has a lot to prove if he wants to rebound and get a good offer in 2022.

 

Justin Houston (9M) -- 2 years, 16M

--tied for 21st in sacks, and was top 10 in pass rush win rate. He was great value last year at 9M.

 

Denico Autry (5.7M) -- 1 year, 4M

30th in sacks, 32nd in hurries, and provides DT/DE flex. Great value even at last years rate.

 

Xavier Rhodes (3.25M) -- 2 years, 20M

--13th best in completion rate allowed. But aging. Might go to 3 years if that's what it takes. Fits our scheme well.

 

Anthony Walker Jr. (2.1M) -- 2 years, 7M

--Tackle machine who would be better as a true ILB in a 3-4. Still great value at 3.5 a year even if depth.

 

Malik Hooker (3.1M) -- 2 years, 7M (only if we continue to play more single high C1/C3)

--We played more C1/C3 (single high) this year, and Hooker is best in that coverage. Blackmon really struggled late in coverage.

 

Jacoby Brissett (21.3M) -- 1 year, 2M (2 years if we intend to start Eason)

--There are a ton of options for backup this year in FA. If we draft or sign another FA, let walk. 

 

Zach Pascal (0.75M) -- choice between original round tender (2.1M) or 3 year 5M fully guaranteed

--averaged about the same as Hilton the last 2 years. He's a very good 4th WR option and can flex from X to big-slot.

 

Mo-Alie Cox (0.75M) -- choice between second round tender (3.2M) or 3 year 7.5M fully guaranteed

--killed it in just about every stat category. Good value if we can get him on a 3 year / 7.5M deal even if he's only a #2.

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TY Hilton (13M in 2020): 1/$9M (signs with another team)

Marlon Mack (0.63M):  1/$2M w/incentives (signs with another team)

Justin Houston (9M):  2/$17M

Denico Autry (5.7M): 2/$15M (signs with another team)

Xavier Rhodes (3.25M): 2/$24M 

Anthony Walker Jr. (2.1M): 3/$16M (signs with another team)

Malik Hooker (3.1M): 2/$14M (signs with another team)

Jacoby Brissett (21.3M): 2/$10M (signs with another team)

Zach Pascal (0.75M): original round tender (2.1M) that turns into a 2/$12M (signs with another team)

Mo-Alie Cox (0.75M): 2/S9M

 

Only Houston, Rhodes and MAC return from this list. Colts reap several Day 3 comp picks they will used to replace future draft capital that will be used via trades this offseason.

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17 minutes ago, luv_pony_express said:


I’m iffy on that Hilton offer.  Seems either too high or too long.

 

Mack, Hooker, Brissett are likely gone.  Maybe Walker, too.

 

Rhodes offer is awfully rich considering what he got this year.  I think he deserves an extension and a raise.  But not that much.

 

Autry has done better than 1 year/4M.

 

MAC can get more than that.  But maybe not in Indy as the 3rd TE.

 

I fully expect a lot of these guys to be gone. 

 

Hilton offer would be a pay-go structure, no big bonus, no big guarantees. I don't think people appreciate how often Hilton was doubled, even bracketed, at times this season. He gave the other receivers one on ones quite a bit, just based on some of my all 22 viewing over the past couple weeks. That average value would make him 22nd highest on the WR scale, and is a decrease from his previous contract. Your mileage may vary, but I think it's a fair and reasonable offer for a legacy guy who can still play, despite popular opinion.

 

Mack and Hooker are likely gone. They might keep JB around, the strategy is still up in the air. No big money, though. Sounds like they're letting Walker walk (no pun intended), but if he wanted to wait a year until the cap begins to normalize, I'd be okay with that. One year, $5m might be better.

 

Rhodes was a top ten corner this year, and was really good for us. That average would make him the 20th highest paid corner in the league. He's gonna test the market, and I think he'll get something close.

 

Autry is a JAG who played well in his role, but will be 31 next year and isn't a difference maker. He can walk. 

 

Same for MAC, he's a one note player without much upside. He's replaceable. 

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5 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

TY Hilton (13M in 2020): 1/$9M (signs with another team)

Marlon Mack (0.63M):  1/$2M w/incentives (signs with another team)

Justin Houston (9M):  2/$17M

Denico Autry (5.7M): 2/$15M (signs with another team)

Xavier Rhodes (3.25M): 2/$24M 

Anthony Walker Jr. (2.1M): 3/$16M (signs with another team)

Malik Hooker (3.1M): 2/$14M (signs with another team)

Jacoby Brissett (21.3M): 2/$10M (signs with another team)

Zach Pascal (0.75M): original round tender (2.1M) that turns into a 2/$12M (signs with another team)

Mo-Alie Cox (0.75M): 2/S9M

 

Only Houston, Rhodes and MAC return from this list. Colts reap several Day 3 comp picks they will used to replace future draft capital that will be used via trades this offseason.

Who is giving Rhodes 2/24?!?   12 mill a year?

 

Who is giving Hooker 2/14?!?   7 mill a year coming off an Achilles?  

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TY - $10m per year is my max. Anymore and I’m out. A shame though.

Mack - I’d let him walk before offering him. Our RB room is set and he’s coming off a major injury.

Houston - $8m per year is my max. Still productive and a good leader but he’s again and that takes a toll on the legs and the dollars.

Autry - $5m per year max. Good rotational guy but nothing special.

Rhodes - $8m per year max. Productive but ageing. 
Walker - $3.5m per year max. He’s a good guy and I like him but he’s nothing special. 
Hooker - Let him walk. Not very productive. Major injury history. Wouldn’t surprise me to see him retire soon.

Brissett - $7m on a short deal. Mentor/backup money

Pascal - I’d give him a 2nd round tender as an RFA

MAC - $3 per year. Productive on his day but not an every week producer. Good 2nd/3rd TE

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Yeah I don’t understand why 

1. We wouldn’t resign TY

2. Why people think he’s this greedy dude all of a sudden? He’s not going to demand anything of this team. I bet he takes a team friendly deal and stays. He’s already publicly said he won’t play for another team. TY isn’t as he used to be but he’s still a big part of this team and defenses do respect him. 
 

as for the others I’m not so sure on value but I would resign:

Houston, Autry, Rhodes (if the deal is right) 

Maybe lock up MAC and pascal for 3 years (both young and producing at the rates their given) 

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TY Hilton - 2 years/13M with 2M more in incentives (1000y season 1M) - 7 million guaranteed year one, essentially team option year 2

Marlon Mack - 1 year/1.5M - it's a shame he got hurt, I like his running style, don't think there'll be much of a market in a very strong RB free agent class - I'd let him stick around and show what he can do

Justin Houston - I'd offer him a 1 year deal for 6M, which he would probably decline, but I'm fine with letting him walk

Denico Autry - same with Houston, only for less dollars - offer him a 1 year - 4M deal and see if he takes it

Xavier Rhodes - 3 years 22 million - I could see Rhodes getting the Pierre Desir deal from a couple years ago - 8 million in guarantees in 2021, team-friendly 6.5M in year 2 and 3, where you can cut bait should he decline

Anthony Walker Jr. - honestly don't see him sticking around, Leonard and Okereke are the starters for the time being, I have high hopes for Speed as well, would keep him for a 1Y/3M deal, but he should find a better deal elsewhere

Malik Hooker - don't think his market will be too solid, I'd take him back on a 1Y/2.5M prove-it-deal and let him compete with Blackmon

Jacoby Brissett - post Rivers I think the front office would like to keep Jacoby around, 2 years 8 million should get it done - good backup QB money, which is essentially what Jacoby is at this point

Zach Pascal - RFA tender and see if anyone offers a contract, which I doubt

Mo-Alie Cox - same as above

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I see a lot of "let them walk"... 

But I don't see any comment on how to fill all the holes from all those walking... 

A QB and a FA DE or LT contract could put a massive dent in our cap space.

PR and AC leaving really have limited our options.

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3 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

I see a lot of "let them walk"... 

But I don't see any comment on how to fill all the holes from all those walking... 

A QB and a FA DE or LT contract could put a massive dent in our cap space.

PR and AC leaving really have limited our options.

 

Hooker is a backup S right now, we had a starter S coming out of nowhere and played for us (Mitchell), we had also a LT coming from his home to play this year. Mackless RB group is basically this year group, I'm ok with that.

The rest is LB, WR, DE, LT - Those positions will be addressed by Draft of FA anyway. 

For me, after Rhodes, Houston and Autry, the rest is replaceable (I just have Mack as coming back because I think we can sign at low price due his injury).

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1 minute ago, DiogoSales said:

 

Hooker is a backup S right now, we had a starter S coming out of nowhere and played for us (Mitchell), we had also a LT coming from his home to play this year. Mackless RB group is basically this year group, I'm ok with that.

The rest is LB, WR, DE, LT - Those positions will be addressed by Draft of FA anyway. 

For me, after Rhodes, Houston and Autry, the rest is replaceable (I just have Mack as coming back because I think we can sign at low price due his injury).

2xDE

LT

QB

CB

WR

 

those are 5 of the 6 most expensive positions to staff via FA.

 

Hooker, Mack, and Walker are the cheapest ones to keep out of all of them.

 

S- Blackmon was plain bad late in the season. Not comfortable with him at FS without a backup plan. Hooker would be a cheap backup plan. That assumes he's healed. 

 

DE - I don't want yet another 2nd or 3rd round DE. Give me both Autry and Houston back. They were plenty good enough. If we can't get them both back, need to go 1st round and finally get a legit low bust talent on a rook contract.

 

WR - Pascal will be cheap to bring back. Not really a need if Campbell comes back healthy. 

 

QB - the zillion dollar question and impacts everything.

 

LT - lots of options here, but even if we move someone, we need to fill that hole, and need to upgrade depth. 2nd R pick IMO.

 

CB - this is the area that scares me most if we can't get Rhodes back. A drop in talent here, along with Blackmon might be disastrously ugly. 

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2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

2xDE

LT

QB

CB

WR

 

those are 5 of the 6 most expensive positions to staff via FA.

 

Hooker, Mack, and Walker are the cheapest ones to keep out of all of them.

 

S- Blackmon was plain bad late in the season. Not comfortable with him at FS without a backup plan. Hooker would be a cheap backup plan. That assumes he's healed. 

 

DE - I don't want yet another 2nd or 3rd round DE. Give me both Autry and Houston back. They were plenty good enough. If we can't get them both back, need to go 1st round and finally get a legit low bust talent on a rook contract.

 

WR - Pascal will be cheap to bring back. Not really a need if Campbell comes back healthy. 

 

QB - the zillion dollar question and impacts everything.

 

LT - lots of options here, but even if we move someone, we need to fill that hole, and need to upgrade depth. 2nd R pick IMO.

 

CB - this is the area that scares me most if we can't get Rhodes back. A drop in talent here, along with Blackmon might be disastrously ugly. 

 Basically agree with you ouside Hooker, we had 3 years of him, backup at cheap I can leave, pay him no way... 

AWalk simple wants to play more, it's not in Indy, he's gone I think

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6 minutes ago, DiogoSales said:

 Basically agree with you ouside Hooker, we had 3 years of him, backup at cheap I can leave, pay him no way... 

AWalk simple wants to play more, it's not in Indy, he's gone I think

Hooker played well in year one. He didn't play well when we changed to 2 high/C2.

 

Not sure Walker will get the offer he wants. ILBs are one of the more fungible/devalued positions if not top tier. And the way Oke played, I'm happy to give Walker back some snaps. But I agree, if he gets the offer he wants, especially in a 3-4 D, he gone.

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• Resign TY. $8m per year 2 yrs. Guaranteed. That’s fair and I doubt he gets a better offer;

• Resign Houston. $7 m per year 2 yrs. Guaranteed. He’s aging and the cap situation is against him but he still has value. 
• Resign Autry. $5 m per year two years first year guaranteed. Worth it. 
• Resign Rhodes. $10 m per year 2 yrs. Guaranteed. Best CB the Colts have. 
• Resign Pascal. $3m per year 3 yrs. He has value and the WR corps is thin. 
• Resign MAC. $2m per year 3 yrs. Solid #2 TE. 
Everyone else walks. Mack; Walker; Hooker; Jacoby; etc. 

Oh, and the Colts trade their 1st round pick this year and 2nd round pick in ‘22 to the Lions for Stafford. Eason is the backup with another journeyman picked up as the 3rd QB. 
Buckle up. 
 

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12 hours ago, Superman said:

TY Hilton -- three years, $30m

Marlon Mack -- vet minimum

Justin Houston -- two years, $14m

Denico Autry -- one year, $4m

Xavier Rhodes -- three years, $27m

Anthony Walker Jr. -- two years, $10m

Malik Hooker -- vet minimum

Jacoby Brissett -- one year, $3m

Zach Pascal -- vet minimum

Mo-Alie Cox -- vet minimum

I like both Houston and Autry, but why so much more for Houston? The have similar stats and Autry can play DT and DE. He is also less injury prone. I personally think that is way too much for Houston. I agree with all your other offers.

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11 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Who is giving Rhodes 2/24?!?   12 mill a year?

 

Who is giving Hooker 2/14?!?   7 mill a year coming off an Achilles?  


Some team will gamble on Hooker. He will only be 25 and he’s a former lottery pick with huge talent. A $7M AAV would put him just inside the top 15...just ahead of guys like Ricardo Allen, Vonn Bell and Tre Boston. I think a team would look to lock in a second year team option of sorts...but maybe not. Either way...he should have suitors and will have an opportunity to at least get a good one-year deal to rebuild value.

Edit: Obviously this is assuming Hooker has recovered and can pass a physical. If not, then he probably gets half that and possibly might not even be signed until during the season. 
 

Rhodes was a top 10 player last season...at a premium position. He produced a ton of value on his cheap pillow contract...and now he gets to cash in. With a very good track record (even at his age), he is going to command a nice 2-3 year deal to finish out his career. A $12M AAV would pay him just outside that top 10 range for CBs...and this deal is similar to the one that Haden signed with PIT after having a late-career resurgence.  Knowing Ballard...I am sure he would structure it in a way that they could get out after one year if Rhodes fell apart. But given the current state of the CBs...they almost have to re-sign him.

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14 minutes ago, shasta519 said:


Some team will gamble on Hooker. He will only be 25 and he’s a former lottery pick with huge talent. A $7M AAV would put him just inside the top 15...just ahead of guys like Ricardo Allen, Vonn Bell and Tre Boston. I think a team would look to lock in a second year team option of sorts...but maybe not. Either way...he should have suitors and will have an opportunity to at least get a good one-year deal to rebuild value.

Edit: Obviously this is assuming Rhodes has recovered and can pass a physical. If not, then he probably gets half that and possibly might not even be signed until during the season. 
 

Rhodes was a top 10 player last season...at a premium position. He produced a ton of value on his pillown contract...and now he gets to cash in. With a very good track record (even at his age), he is going to command a nice 2-3 year deal to finish out his career. A $12M AAV would pay him just outside that top 10 range for CBs...and this deal is similar to the one that Haden signed with PIT after having a late-career resurgence.  Knowing Ballard...I am sure he would structure it in a way that they could get out after one year if Rhodes fell apart. But given the current state of the CBs...they almost have to re-sign him.

Ok.   Appreciate the response.

 

I thought you were going to say they were typo’s, but apparently not.   Alright, we see it differently.  Nothing wrong with that.  It’s what makes the world go around. 
 

Thanks again....

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7 hours ago, EastStreet said:

I see a lot of "let them walk"... 

But I don't see any comment on how to fill all the holes from all those walking... 

A QB and a FA DE or LT contract could put a massive dent in our cap space.

PR and AC leaving really have limited our options.


Supplement with draft picks. Ballard has had a few rookies playing significant snaps every year...so we could assume the same this year. Plus...you have some  younger players who could take a step forward next season. 


Also...there’s player for player swaps that can be explored.

 

I think you could easily replace everyone on that list except Houston and Rhodes. And I would keep MAC as a cheap TE2.

 

A big FA contract will put a strain on the cap...which is why a rookie QB would be huge. But I also think this is their chance to spend on a premium non-QB position or two.

 

But another way to burn cap space is to re-sign a bunch of outgoing vets...essentially paying more money for the same team components (in many cases). If that was a list of FAs...I would probably be interested in a few of them at most. But that’s just me...and I am

sure other teams will be interested in each of them on some level...so this seems like a great chance to shift some cap space to quality (instead of quantity) and accrue some comp draft capital...even if it’s mid-late Day 3 picks.

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34 minutes ago, Patrick Miller said:

I'm surprised some folks want to resign Walker. Imo we definitely need an upgrade.... I'd let him walk.

If we let Walker Walk, (and I think it’s likely) it’s not because we want an upgrade.   It’s because we simply don’t play him enough.  
I think East Street has the numbers in snaps, but I think Walker is roughly playing 25-30 percent of the snaps.   That’s it.    We can't pay him enough for that.   Some other team will PLAY him more so they will PAY him more. 
 

When Walker is off the field, we are either playing a 4-2-5 or a 4-1-6.   Leonard plays basically 100 percent of the snaps and I think Oke is about 55-60 percent.  

 

There is a method to our madness.  

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TY - 2Y/22M - he can still play but he’s not Tyreek Hill taking the top of defenses anymore, and with his disappearing act at the beginning of the year I’m afraid to sign him any longer or with too much guaranteed. Partly for sentimental reasons I want him to stay, but I do think he’s still got some juice. 
 

Mack - 1Y/1M - Likable player but due to his position and injury, no way can I justify giving him much more than vet minimum. 
 

Houston - 1Y/8M - Fell off a lot this year compared to his first year. Still our best edge player, basically by default and I’d be hoping we can get a more 2019 performance out of him at arguably our weakest position on the team. 
 

Autry - Walk. He will price himself out with an inflated sense of value because he’s gotten decent sack numbers, but he is the definition of JAG and I’d only keep him if he agreed to a minimum contract. 
 

Rhodes - 1Y/6M - He was a stud this year. If we could guarantee that he won’t revert back to his last two years in Minnesota I would be willing to go longer and higher. With how much he fell off after getting paid the first time, I’m not giving him a long term deal. 
 

Walker - 1Y/2M - He was playing a very small percentage of downs at the end of the year so I’m keeping him less based on ability and more based on leadership and football savvy. 
 

Hooker - Walk. Both sides need to just move on. I’d keep him at minimum too but I think both sides want a fresh start. Also a little miscast in the current defense so no reason to force a square peg into a round hole. 
 

Brissett - 1Y/5M - Too big of a fan of Brissett as a man to want to see him leave. I don’t want him starting but he’s a very solid backup and compared to the 20M we gave him last year, I can live with his salary being at 1/4 of that this year. 
 

Pascal and MAC both tendered at 2.24M. I want to bring in Kenny Golladay or Allen Robinson and Pascal is JAG so he’s not falling into my future plans much. I’m a big fan of MAC and I wouldn’t mind seeing him play the Jack Doyle role. He’s a better blocker, has better hands, and is more explosive. 
 

I may be lowballing some guys but I’d hate to fall into the trap of overvaluing our guys and keeping them just because you want to keep your own. Unfortunately, I think the five most important positions on the team also coincide with our five weakest positions on the team; QB, WR, CB, DE, and LT. Fortunately we’ve got a good cap situation and this is the perfect year to be needing a QB. 

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3 hours ago, Patrick Miller said:

I'm surprised some folks want to resign Walker. Imo we definitely need an upgrade.... I'd let him walk.

 

I think this a crazy take.

 

Anthony Walker would be an immediate starter on at least 20 teams in the league. To say we need an upgrade when he's the third best linebacker on the team is just mind boggling to me.

 

He's limited in what he can and can't do so there absolutely needs to be a max number. If he's back, it needs to be team friendly, simply because of the other players we have in that room. He is literally one of the best in the league at what he excels at though. If we don't keep him, it's because we can't afford to keep him, not because he's not good enough.

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TY Hilton - If he's not willing to take a paycut down to WR2 money then I'm fine with moving on from him.  Loved what he's done for the org but he's not a WR1 anymore.  I'd rather pay him WR2 money and sign a True #1.

 

Marlon Mack - His spot at this point is taken.  I'm fine with moving forward with JT, Hines, and possibly drafting a young bruiser or signing a vet for cheap.  If he's willing to come back on a prove it deal then fine, otherwise he can test the market.

 

Justin Houston - Resign him.  2yr deal with an option.  Coming off one of his best years.  He was definitely our best pass rusher.  Health isn't a concern but age is.  I'd say bring him back.  Not too expensive however.  That may prove to be a problem if he's looking to cash out before retirement.

 

Denico Autry - I want to bring him back, but if another team try to force us to overpay for him then we should let him walk.

 

Xavier Rhodes - I was impressed by Rhodes this year.  Bring him back, but not for #1 CB money.  I don't think he's there.  #2 CB money for him and I'm ok.

 

Anthony Walker Jr. - He can walk.  We need an upgrade.  I'd be fine with drafting his replacement.  But if we can't find anyone I'm down to bring him back.

 

Malik Hooker - Same as Marlon Mack.  JB has taken his spot.  Either come back on a prove it deal or he can walk also.

 

Jacoby Brissett - We need to wait and see how our QB search plays out.  If we are able to grab Wentz, Staff, or Wats, then I'm ok with Eason being the backup.  But if we fail on the 3 mentioned and Ballard isn't sold on Eason, I'm fine with JB being a stopgap.  He'll play good enough to keep us competitive but not so good where we have trash draft capital.

 

Zach Pascal - IDK about this one.  We need to upgrade at WR but due injuries depth is a concern.  50/50.

 

Mo-Alie Cox - Resign ASAP!  I think MAC is a diamond in the rough.  I honestly think he can be the next Antonio Gates.  Not sure why we don't utilize him more.  

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7 hours ago, TimetobringDfence! said:

I like both Houston and Autry, but why so much more for Houston? The have similar stats and Autry can play DT and DE. He is also less injury prone. I personally think that is way too much for Houston. I agree with all your other offers.

I believe Houston was on the feild more than Autry too. Never mind Autry was played a bit more.

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17 hours ago, Superman said:

 

I fully expect a lot of these guys to be gone. 

 

Hilton offer would be a pay-go structure, no big bonus, no big guarantees. I don't think people appreciate how often Hilton was doubled, even bracketed, at times this season. He gave the other receivers one on ones quite a bit, just based on some of my all 22 viewing over the past couple weeks. That average value would make him 22nd highest on the WR scale, and is a decrease from his previous contract. Your mileage may vary, but I think it's a fair and reasonable offer for a legacy guy who can still play, despite popular opinion.

 

Mack and Hooker are likely gone. They might keep JB around, the strategy is still up in the air. No big money, though. Sounds like they're letting Walker walk (no pun intended), but if he wanted to wait a year until the cap begins to normalize, I'd be okay with that. One year, $5m might be better.

 

Rhodes was a top ten corner this year, and was really good for us. That average would make him the 20th highest paid corner in the league. He's gonna test the market, and I think he'll get something close.

 

Autry is a JAG who played well in his role, but will be 31 next year and isn't a difference maker. He can walk. 

 

Same for MAC, he's a one note player without much upside. He's replaceable. 

   Good post on Hilton: One critical element, regarding Hilton is; who’s going to be throwing to him? People say he’s declining and to some degree that’s true but he really hasn’t had a “gunslinger” throwing to him since Luck and I believe that effects people’s perception of him. 

     I like Mack but he may warrant better money elsewhere. If Taylor went down, it would be nice to plug him in and having running backs with “fresh legs” at the end of the year, would be key in making a postseason run.

     Hooker is expendable. I hope they find a way to keep Rhodes. (It’s going to be interesting to see how the secondary shakes out).

    I think they’ll keep Autry and/or Houston but that could change if they think Lewis could step in.

     I disagree that MAC is a “one note player”. He’s an above average blocker, a good route runner and good at 50/50 balls. He was hampered by injury, so he looks lumbering in his receiving game but I don’t think we’ve seen the best of his game yet.

 

   

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2 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

     I disagree that MAC is a “one note player”. He’s an above average blocker, a good route runner and good at 50/50 balls. He was hampered by injury, so he looks lumbering in his receiving game but I don’t think we’ve seen the best of his game yet.

 

Didn't mean he's only capable of doing one thing. I meant he doesn't have the ability to take it up a notch. At least, not that I've noticed.

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TY Hilton:  2 yrs / $17M - after him, Colts need help @ WR (I'm not sold on Campbell staying healthy) 

Marlon Mack: vet min - 1yr prove it deal 

Justin Houston: 1 yr / $7M - unless they can somehow get another pass rusher in FA 

Denico Autry: 1yr / $4M - he's good, 

Xavier Rhodes: 3yr / $25M - need to keep him 

Anthony Walker Jr: Undecided, but I'm ok if he walks

Malik Hooker: vet min - but he'll find money somewhere else and walk 

Jacoby Brissett: Do not sign unless he gives half the money from last year back lol 

Zach Pascal: 1yr / $2M - excellent blocker, decent WR 

Mo-Alie Cox: I like him more than most. 2 yr /$6M - and then actually use him 

 

This team has a lot of holes to fill regardless! 

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