GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: That has no bearing on whether he wants him to coach him Didn’t say it did, I was responding to someone who challenged Chloe on how she knew Watson respected Eberflus. We know it because he’s said it and acted like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PrincetonTiger 8,232 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Here is a real world example Because of my upbringing there are many people that I show “respect” to that I do not like or agree with 3 Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: Here is a real world example Because of my upbringing there are many people that I show “respect” to that I do not like or agree with Well rather than trying to read into something just to argue I am going to base my judgements based off his actions and what he’s said. That’s how most people make judgements. I provided a real quote of him showing respect for Eberflus now please show me a real fact supporting that he doesn’t. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo63 594 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: Which would mean he has respect for him... I agree. The NFL is a pretty exclusive and insulated environment. I doubt there is much, if any, lack of respect between the upper echilon of players and coaches. Especially not publicly. Never know who youre going to end up working with. I have no doubt Watson has, and shows, respect for any number of individuals in the league. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
PrincetonTiger 8,232 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Sumo63 said: I agree. The NFL is a pretty exclusive and insulated environment. I doubt there is much, if any, lack of respect between the upper echilon of players and coaches. Especially not publicly. Never know who youre going to end up working with. I have no doubt Watson has, and shows, respect for any number of individuals in the league. Link to post Share on other sites
richard pallo 2,572 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, CR91 said: With a disgruntled QB, no first round pick, and a dismal defense? I'd pass That's why he has a chance. No one else really wants it. Link to post Share on other sites
ThorstenDenmark 222 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, BProland85 said: He’ll have better options, even if it’s not this year. He´s going to Da Bears next year, when the fire Matt Nagy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
richard pallo 2,572 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 42 minutes ago, Fluke_33 said: Watch him take it and hire mcdaniels as his oc. That might be worth it for me. one other thing he never chose to be with reich. He expected to be working with mcd. Who knows maybe he isn’t happy with that but had no choice. I don’t think this is true but it’s a possibility McDaniels is going to be the Eagles head coach. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fluke_33 2,608 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, richard pallo said: McDaniels is going to be the Eagles head coach. Wow. I didn’t hear that. I hope they crash and burn Link to post Share on other sites
richard pallo 2,572 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 55 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: https://www.radio.com/sportsradio610/sports/houston-texans/reports-texans-request-to-interview-colts-dc-matt-eberflus he called him a great coach. You don’t do that about someone you don’t have respect for. I think this is Houston's Hail Mary to try and keep Watson from pushing for a trade.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
richard pallo 2,572 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Fluke_33 said: Wow. I didn’t hear that. I hope they crash and burn Just my prediction. Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo63 594 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, ThorstenDenmark said: He´s going to Da Bears next year, when the fire Matt Nagy. Lol, see I was thinking he'd be the DC there in 4 years after the Houston gig.... Link to post Share on other sites
Moosejawcolt 1,553 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, PrincetonTiger said: Not really. U have to make a move while the iron is hot. Colts have a crappy season next year and Eberflus could move to the back of the line. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MCurtis32 157 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 What is he going to do? Become Justin Houston's landscaper? Link to post Share on other sites
jskinnz 1,819 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, CR91 said: With a disgruntled QB, no first round pick, and a dismal defense? I'd pass Perhaps, just spitballing here, he thinks that he can help Watson and the defense. Plus the idea of having one of 32 of these jobs in the entire world may be appealing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jskinnz 1,819 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, richard pallo said: That's why he has a chance. No one else really wants it. Sweet Jesus Link to post Share on other sites
CR91 6,376 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, jskinnz said: Perhaps, just spitballing here, he thinks that he can help Watson and the defense. Plus the idea of having one of 32 of these jobs in the entire world may be appealing. That's if he has Watson Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick Miller 258 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I'd be okay with him taking the Texans job. I'd like to see us bring in a new DC. Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbolt 452 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Mo Money, Mo Power and HC resume.... Link to post Share on other sites
Chloe6124 9,807 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 26 minutes ago, CR91 said: That's if he has Watson I think you are missing the point. If they bring in someone Watson respects and wants maybe they can salvage the relationship with Watson. Link to post Share on other sites
CR91 6,376 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said: I think you are missing the point. If they bring in someone Watson respects and wants maybe they can salvage the relationship with Watson. Have you read his Twitter posts. I don't think it matters who they bring in at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
PrincetonTiger 8,232 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, CR91 said: Have you read his Twitter posts. I don't think it matters who they bring in at this point. I agree I think the Watson train has left the station Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: I agree I think the Watson train has left the station The problem is he doesn’t really have much of away to force a trade short or just retiring and I don’t think that’s going to happen. He has a long term contract and the way NFL contracts work you have to play some in order for years to count against the contract. Now you can argue having a disgruntled player isn’t in your best interest but if the Texans just say no we aren’t trading you and don’t budge Watson doesn’t have much of a choice. For what it’s worth John McClain who is one of the best beat writers in the country and is very plugged into the Texans was on the radio this afternoon saying there is zero chance the Texans trade Watson that management isn’t even open to considering the idea. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo63 594 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, CR91 said: Have you read his Twitter posts. I don't think it matters who they bring in at this point. I dont use twitter, so I havent seen his posts, but I can't envision a scenario in which Houston allows him to go elsewhere. He's too young and too rare. It would be suicide to let him walk. Especially with no first (or second I cant quite remember) 2021 draft pick(s). Link to post Share on other sites
jskinnz 1,819 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, CR91 said: That's if he has Watson Only the terminally clueless think Watson will be anywhere other than Houston. Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Sumo63 said: I dont use twitter, so I havent seen his posts, but I can't envision a scenario in which Houston allows him to go elsewhere. He's too young and too rare. It would be suicide to let him walk. Especially with no first (or second I cant quite remember) 2021 draft pick(s). If they do move Watson they will have a first and second round pick in the 2021 draft and probably several more picks. That much I can promise you. With that said I doubt they move him based on people around the Texans that would know like John McClain who seem to think management in Houston is dead set against it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blueblood23 335 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, CR91 said: Good luck to him then. All I know is, I wouldn't want that to be my first shot as a head coach. You don't get many second opportunities. The league is and has been an opportunity for recycled head coaches for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said: The league is and has been an opportunity for recycled head coaches for a long time. I mean Adam Gase got a second chance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo63 594 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 23 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: If they do move Watson they will have a first and second round pick in the 2021 draft and probably several more picks. That much I can promise you. With that said I doubt they move him based on people around the Texans that would know like John McClain who seem to think management in Houston is dead set against it. I still think hes more valuable than potential picks at this point, but you make a strong argument. Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Sumo63 said: I still think hes more valuable than potential picks at this point, but you make a strong argument. Oh I don’t think he’s getting traded I am just saying if he does it will solve their draft pick problem. So they basically have to pick between a franchise QB or draft picks. It sounds like they are leaning towards franchise QB at this point. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CR91 6,376 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 32 minutes ago, jskinnz said: Only the terminally clueless think Watson will be anywhere other than Houston. You can't force someone to play Link to post Share on other sites
Chloe6124 9,807 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I think the Texans hiring the GM they did might of changed Flus mind. He apparently holds the new GM in high regard. Link to post Share on other sites
w87r 5,017 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said: I think the Texans hiring the GM they did might of changed Flus mind. He apparently holds the new GM in high regard. Makes sense, with NE connection with Josh, and he was his DC pick? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbolt 452 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Watson was disrespected. There's such a thing as self respect. You can't fixed this over night. They(Owner, GM, HC, QB) need to hold a mtg asap to stop the bleeding and move forward . There's nothing that an emergency mtg cannot resolve. Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 47 minutes ago, CR91 said: You can't force someone to play No you can’t but unless he’s willing to give up his career over it they can hold his contract rights forever. Again, I really doubt he’s willing to do that. Link to post Share on other sites
CR91 6,376 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: No you can’t but unless he’s willing to give up his career over it they can hold his contract rights forever. Again, I really doubt he’s willing to do that. He can hold out though and they would still have to pay him his guarantees Link to post Share on other sites
GoColts8818 4,562 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 32 minutes ago, CR91 said: He can hold out though and they would still have to pay him his guarantees He could but at some point he’s going to have to play because he won’t advance his contact. He doesn’t have much leverage here beyond just saying I am going to retire which I doubt he’s going to do. Link to post Share on other sites
LJpalmbeacher2 1,792 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, CR91 said: Why would Flus wanna deal with that mess? A Big promotion and Big Bucks. Link to post Share on other sites
LJpalmbeacher2 1,792 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said: I agree I think the Watson train has left the station ....and it be coming to Indy, Miami, or New England. Link to post Share on other sites
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