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Either through free agency or Draft. I love what Rivers has done this season. It’s was one of the Funnest seasons in a long time. This team really struggled without AC. I think a mobile QB can do a better job at masking that. Just look at the final 4 AFC QBs what do they all have in common? 

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Just get Phillip a Segway.  Problem solved

All I know is, Buffalo is headed to the AFC Championship Game after their dominant victory over Baltimore and we came alot closer to beating them with our "statue" QB Philip Rivers than the Ravens did

Either through free agency or Draft. I love what Rivers has done this season. It’s was one of the Funnest seasons in a long time. This team really struggled without AC. I think a mobile QB can do a be

what was so funny about this season?

 

A mobile QB would be nice and dandy as long as he has a good arm.    Might be easier to look for a good LT and continue trying to find a long term answer for QB.  

 

Hopefully can address both but good QBs aren't easy to come by.

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1 minute ago, iuswingman said:

what was so funny about this season?

 

A mobile QB would be nice and dandy as long as he has a good arm.    Might be easier to look for a good LT and continue trying to find a long term answer for QB.  

 

Hopefully can address both but good QBs aren't easy to come by.

Think he meant "funnest"

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2 minutes ago, iuswingman said:

what was so funny about this season?

 

A mobile QB would be nice and dandy as long as he has a good arm.    Might be easier to look for a good LT and continue trying to find a long term answer for QB.  

 

Hopefully can address both but good QBs aren't easy to come by.

 

Damn Autocorrect yeah my ideal QBs would be either Dak or Stafford if by FA. If not trade up to get a QB.

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left tackle retires. so lets get a qb that can run for his life. Why not get a left handed qb? or better yet, when hilton retires, lets get a qb that can't throw the ball. Oh wait! They already have a back up one of those.

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Not sure why an LT retiring would dictate the traits we should prioritize in a QB. How about we just get one that can handle the responsibilites we would expect in a QB (or any position for that matter) and meet and/or exceed those expectations?

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Good QB's don't grow on trees, if they did teams wouldn't suck so bad. A lot of average at best QB's will be available. Jimmy G from San Fran may be the best. I'd still take Winston over the field right now.

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I would almost bet that Lance will be available at our pick or close to it.  He only played one game this season. Then with the combine being out of wack I doubt he is going to go super high.

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27 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Not sure why an LT retiring would dictate the traits we should prioritize in a QB. How about we just get one that can handle the responsibilites we would expect in a QB (or any position for that matter) and meet and/or exceed those expectations?

Ballard talked about the possibility of having Nelson transition to a tackle. It wont be hard to find a good LG.

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5 minutes ago, TimetobringDfence! said:

Ballard talked about the possibility of having Nelson transition to a tackle. It wont be hard to find a good LG.

 

I'm with Superman on this one......I don't like that idea at all

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Just now, lollygagger8 said:

 

I'm with Superman on this one......I don't like that idea at all

We have the highest paid Center, Nelson will be highest paid gaurd maybe almost even making tackle money. We know have know have to hope we can draft a starting quality tackle or we are gonna be putting a boat load of money on that line. Maybe we restructure Kelly's contract a bit.

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30 minutes ago, TimetobringDfence! said:

Ballard talked about the possibility of having Nelson transition to a tackle. It wont be hard to find a good LG.

Definitely harder to find a stud LT, but these days, I wonder if the traditional blind side tackle position isnt as sought after as it once was with QBs being generally more mobile and offenses being tweaked to fit those sorts of QBs. Rivers doesnt necessarily qualify as the new mobile QB, so it makes sense to move Nelson to LT if we cant find a replacement. But I think Rivers is better off not having guys in his grill up the middle, TBH. So I think it best to leave Nelzon at LG and draft an LT. 

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Thinking Nelson moves to LT, bring in a guard via free agency or burn a 2nd/3rd rounder on a guard. It would be suicide to just toss Eason in coming from the third string. Bring back Rivers for a year, get him another WR preferably a big body. Eason slides to backup and is positioned to take over in 2022. Trying to rush a Young QB usually ends in disaster at some point and can ruin that QB. 
 

 

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You need a more mobile QB period. Not asking to find someone who can take one 50 yards. Get someone who can run a bootleg, play action rollout, and adds more stress on the ends that want to crash hard on Taylor on short distance and goaline. Teams love the goaline play where the QB rolls and the WR runs toward the pylon then the QB has that run or pass option. Rivers was good for us but our offense def limited by his mobility when it came to 3rd down and redzone

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Well Castanzo says Nelson can do it......hmmm........

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/01/12/anthony-castonzo-quenton-nelson-has-all-the-skills-to-play-left-tackle/

 

Anthony Castonzo announced his retirement on Tuesday and that decision adds something to the Colts’ list of needs for the offseason.

They will need a new starter at left tackle, but they may not have to look all that far to find one. During a press conference after his announcement, Castonzo said that he’s seen left guard Quenton Nelson have fun taking some reps at the position in practice and that he thinks the three-time All-Pro would do well at a new position.

“We’ve talked about it, and if that’s what happens, I’m going to tell you right now, he’s going to do a nice job. He’s got all the skills to do it,” Castonzo said, via Joel A. Erickson of the Indianapolis Star.

The Colts will likely explore a number of options for moving forward on the offensive line, but agreeing with Castonzo’s take on Nelson could lead to a search focused on help at guard rather than tackle.

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2 hours ago, Valpo2004 said:

I would prioritize LT over QB right now.  This team's identity is good OL and we should prioritize that identity.  

We got by with Veldheer at LT. QB should always be the number 1 priority IMO.

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Just now, Orioles22 said:

I'd go with Eichenberg in the second/third round and try to get Veldheer to come back for 1/2 years.

Veldheer isn't going to be able to play an entire season.   He knows that,  as does every team in the league

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2 hours ago, ColtJax said:

Good QB's don't grow on trees, if they did teams wouldn't suck so bad. A lot of average at best QB's will be available. Jimmy G from San Fran may be the best. I'd still take Winston over the field right now.

 

tbh honest they do. scheme is everything, talent just makes scheme better ... ie shanahan. the key is coaching 

 

coaching in the nfl just lacks creativity & everyone is too scared to do their job bc security is also hard to come by.  yu have to be willing to suck for a year or 2

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25 minutes ago, Orioles22 said:

I'd go with Eichenberg in the second/third round and try to get Veldheer to come back for 1/2 years.


Veldheer is with the Packers now.  He looks to be in “hired gun” mode at this point in his career.  Colts had a chance to sign him to the active roster and they passed, likely knowing the AC retirement was coming.

 

On Eichenberg, he won’t fall past 34th overall.  Too much excellent tape at a critical position.  

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3 hours ago, JediXMan said:

Either through free agency or Draft. I love what Rivers has done this season. It’s was one of the Funnest seasons in a long time. This team really struggled without AC. I think a mobile QB can do a better job at masking that. Just look at the final 4 AFC QBs what do they all have in common? 

We had one rostered and everybody wanted him out of town.... Now you want one? :funny:

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31 minutes ago, zibby43 said:


Veldheer is with the Packers now.  He looks to be in “hired gun” mode at this point in his career.  Colts had a chance to sign him to the active roster and they passed, likely knowing the AC retirement was coming.

 

On Eichenberg, he won’t fall past 34th overall.  Too much excellent tape at a critical position.  

I don't claim to be a draft expert, but I try to look at several in the winter/spring. It seems he's listed 80 to 110 in some I've seen:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Orioles22 said:

I'd go with Eichenberg in the second/third round and try to get Veldheer to come back for 1/2 years.

 

I doubt Veldheer comes back next year and he's currently on Green Bay's roster, so if he comes back it will probably be with the packers. The guy is a mercenary 

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LT is major priority but if Colts trade down and QB is still there late 1st you gotta take him. 

 

I think they could trade down late 1st and possibly get a 2 and do a LT in 2nd and CB or DE.

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It doesn't have to be a super mobile QB, but I don't think we can bring Rivers back now, his lack of mobility and the possibility of a rookie LT will not mix well when we go against good pass rushers.

 

Maybe if Quenton moves to LT I could see Rivers being able to return, but that depends on his ability to switch positions. On a side note does anyone know how Nelson's measurable compare to most LT? 

 

The best case scenario would be Nelson becomes an awesome LT and then it will make it easier to give him a big contract that is already headed his way.

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10 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

It doesn't have to be a super mobile QB, but I don't think we can bring Rivers back now, his lack of mobility and the possibility of a rookie LT will not mix well when we go against good pass rushers.

 

Maybe if Quenton moves to LT I could see Rivers being able to return, but that depends on his ability to switch positions. On a side note does anyone know how Nelson's measurable compare to most LT? 

 

The best case scenario would be Nelson becomes an awesome LT and then it will make it easier to give him a big contract that is already headed his way.


Stafford would be a great fit he’s only 32 and fits really nice with the talent we have.

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1 minute ago, JediXMan said:


Stafford would be a great fit he’s only 32 and fits really nice with the talent we have.

 

The problem with Stafford is what we will have to give detroit to get him

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3 hours ago, Orioles22 said:

I don't claim to be a draft expert, but I try to look at several in the winter/spring. It seems he's listed 80 to 110 in some I've seen:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

 

 

 

 

Rankings are one thing, but teams draft in accordance to need and position depth as well.

 

I like to give my own grades to guys, but in terms of actually projecting where a guy will be taken in the draft, I've seen Eichenberg go anywhere from the 20s to early 30s.

 

"With this being Eichenberg’s last game, I felt it prudent to analyze his draft stock with the season coming to a close. Although Eichenberg has played well this season, it feels like his draft stock remains a 2nd round tackle. He could push into the late first-round territory, but an early Day 2 selection feels like a safe bet."

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/liam-eichenberg-nfl-draft-player-profile-2021/

 

That analysis matches up nicely with Dane Brugler's mock draft (published today) for The Athletic, which had Eichenberg selected at #34 overall (to the New York Jets).  I'd link it here, but it requires a subscription.

 

NFLDraftScout currently has him projected as a first rounder.

 

If the combine does take place, and he shows off some athleticism, he could establish himself as a top 3 OT in a class loaded with OT talent.

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