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Just now, CanuckColtsFan said:

Its a nice time to get hot. I was thinking Reich was trying to keep them on pitch counts so they would have legs late in the season.  If this is the case its genius.

Maybe but I think it stems more from the lack of the off-season , plus the New QB thing. Combined with the different blocking schemes. Took a bit to get all the gears meshing it looks like

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Its nice to see.  Skill positions matter.

 

Question:  Although the long run by JT was nice and showed his speed, it looks like the O caught the LVR in the perfect defense.  The LVR blitzes a LB and a S from the left side of our O, and the end on the right side looks like he's dropping into coverage in the flat on a wide alignment to begin with....easy to take out of the play.

 

Did Rivers audible into that play?  Because it was perfect for that D call.

 

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28 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Its nice to see.  Skill positions matter.

 

Question:  Although the long run by JT was nice and showed his speed, it looks like the O caught the LVR in the perfect defense.  The LVR blitzes a LB and a S from the left side of our O, and the end on the right side looks like he's dropping into coverage in the flat on a wide alignment to begin with....easy to take out of the play.

 

Did Rivers audible into that play?  Because it was perfect for that D call.

 

Isn’t that the point? I mean to catch the D off guard? Stunning that you’re trying to discredit a very nice run and couple very nice moves by JT to break that. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

When we have the lead our offense is much better with Taylor in the game and I feel like it showed today. I wasn’t as scared we were going to try and give it away with short runs from Nyheim when the defense is stacking the box.

I was happy they finally started bouncing the backs outside a little bit rather than just constantly trying to pound them up the gut.

37 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Its nice to see.  Skill positions matter.

 

Question:  Although the long run by JT was nice and showed his speed, it looks like the O caught the LVR in the perfect defense.  The LVR blitzes a LB and a S from the left side of our O, and the end on the right side looks like he's dropping into coverage in the flat on a wide alignment to begin with....easy to take out of the play.

 

Did Rivers audible into that play?  Because it was perfect for that D call.

 

I mean it can’t be that Frank knows what he’s doing calling plays right?

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13 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Isn’t that the point? I mean to catch the D off guard? Stunning that you’re trying to discredit a very nice run and couple very nice moves by JT to break that. 
 

 


I don’t think he is trying to discredit anything but I’m sure he will speak up for himself.  It looks like a question of did Reich call this play or did Rivers read the defense and audible away from the blitz. 
 

I could only see the highlights bc I’m so close to the state line CBS all access has me on the Champaign Illinois station.  Really ticked me off today bc I couldnt watch. 

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30 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Isn’t that the point? I mean to catch the D off guard? Stunning that you’re trying to discredit a very nice run and couple very nice moves by JT to break that. 
 

 

It was a nice run.  I was impressed by the size of the hole he ran through.  If you see the play and the replay, it looked like the oline caught the LVR in the right D.  

 

Just wondering if the play call against the D was lucky coincidence or if Rivers called an audible.

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1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Its nice to see.  Skill positions matter.

 

Question:  Although the long run by JT was nice and showed his speed, it looks like the O caught the LVR in the perfect defense.  The LVR blitzes a LB and a S from the left side of our O, and the end on the right side looks like he's dropping into coverage in the flat on a wide alignment to begin with....easy to take out of the play.

 

Did Rivers audible into that play?  Because it was perfect for that D call.

 

Yes Rivers audibled from the pass to the run

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1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

Taylor becomes the fourth Colts rookie RB to have over 1000 yards from scrimmage in 12 games joining Faulk, Edge, and, Addai.  Not bad company to keep.  

All three bell cow running backs.  It's now time for Taylor to be our every down back.  Your best players play.  He needs to be the work horse.  

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Just now, richard pallo said:

All three bell cow running backs.  It's now time for Taylor to be our every down back.  Your best players play.  He needs to be the work horse.  

Addai did that the year he was splitting carries with Rhodes.  So while I agree Taylor should get the bulk of them I have no problem using Hines in spots.  Just time to demote Wilkins back to backup.

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12 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Addai did that the year he was splitting carries with Rhodes.  So while I agree Taylor should get the bulk of them I have no problem using Hines in spots.  Just time to demote Wilkins back to backup.

I agree. I’m fine with splitting carries with Hines. But today was the first day they really did that this year. Using Wilkins only a handful of times. 

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Remember how we’ve been calling for Taylor to get more touches? This is why. When you give JT the ball, he does stuff like this. And they barely gave it to him in the 1st quarter. I had to make sure he wasn’t injured. They gotta stop trying to force Hines and Wilkins on the field and ride Taylor. We know how explosive Hines can be but Taylor is your bell cow. 

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17 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Addai did that the year he was splitting carries with Rhodes.  So while I agree Taylor should get the bulk of them I have no problem using Hines in spots.  Just time to demote Wilkins back to backup.

It's been time to demote Wilkins

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18 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Addai did that the year he was splitting carries with Rhodes.  So while I agree Taylor should get the bulk of them I have no problem using Hines in spots.  Just time to demote Wilkins back to backup.

Yeah Wilkins showed a little flicker of hope a couple games ago then he fizzled out since that point.

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1 hour ago, DownHillRunner said:

I knew JT was going to have a breakout game real soon and today was his breakout game. 20 carries, 150 yards, and 2 TDs. Also, those "analysts" who said he couldn't catch the ball out of the backfield are feeling pretty stupid right now. 

I don’t know how many analysts said Taylor “couldn’t.”    I think most simply pointed out that at Wisconsin, Taylor “didn’t”.    That’s s big difference.

 

Props to both Taylor and the coaches for working with the kid.  His skill has clearly improved. 

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9 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

I don’t know how many analysts said Taylor “couldn’t.”    I think most simply pointed out that at Wisconsin, Taylor “didn’t”.    That’s s big difference.

 

Props to both Taylor and the coaches for working with the kid.  His skill has clearly improved. 

I was going to say it was something they would say they didn’t see from him in college so it was a question mark going into the NFL which it was.  That’s why you have scouts to figure out if he can do that sort of thing and to their credit the scouts were right.

 

You are right Taylor is putting in the work with the coaches.  He’s seeing the field so much better now.  I like Mack but I think Taylor and Hines have become a good enough duo they let Mack walk unless just no one else wants him which is possible coming off his injury.  

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5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

I was going to say it was something they would say they didn’t see from him in college so it was a question mark going into the NFL which it was.  That’s why you have scouts to figure out if he can do that sort of thing and to their credit the scouts were right.

 

You are right Taylor is putting in the work with the coaches.  He’s seeing the field so much better now.  I like Mack but I think Taylor and Hines have become a good enough duo they let Mack walk unless just no one else wants him which is possible coming off his injury.  

Still would like mack or another  back next year incase taylor gets hurt. Then you would have hines and wilkins  starting 

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1 hour ago, AwesomeAustin said:


I don’t think he is trying to discredit anything but I’m sure he will speak up for himself.  It looks like a question of did Reich call this play or did Rivers read the defense and audible away from the blitz. 
 

I could only see the highlights bc I’m so close to the state line CBS all access has me on the Champaign Illinois station.  Really ticked me off today bc I couldnt watch. 

Great question. So this begs the follow up question. If Rivers was the one who read the defense and changed the play, is this something he has been allowed all season?  If that’s the case, he hasn’t changed the play call correctly too often. If he hasn’t been able to change the play call all year until recently, why not and that means Reich hasn’t sent in good calls. It seems that the offense, like the defense hasn’t been consistent in most games. I think that opens questions such as this. What exact has PR been allowed to do as a vet QB? Is he free to change plays at any time or is he hamstrung to what Reich sends in? Interesting 

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2 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Still would like mack or another  back next year incase taylor gets hurt. Then you would have hines and wilkins  starting 

All depends on Mack’s market.  You can’t keep everyone and normally areas where you are deep is where you let guys walk especially if they want a pay day.  However given the injury there might not be a market for him.

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1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

All depends on Mack’s market.  You can’t keep everyone and normally areas where you are deep is where you let guys walk especially if they want a pay day.  However given the injury there might not be a market for him.

Would like an upgrade to wilkins

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2 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

Great question. So this begs the follow up question. If Rivers was the one who read the defense and changed the play, is this something he has been allowed all season?  If that’s the case, he hasn’t changed the play call correctly too often. If he hasn’t been able to change the play call all year until recently, why not and that means Reich hasn’t sent in good calls. It seems that the offense, like the defense hasn’t been consistent in most games. I think that opens questions such as this. What exact has PR been allowed to do as a vet QB? Is he free to change plays at any time or is he hamstrung to what Reich sends in? Interesting 

I think he has had the ability, its just that the oline hasn't had much success, IMO.  If you can watch the run from the endzone angle, LVR lined up really wide and then the DE drops into coverage mode in the flat.  Great read by Rivers, IMO.  Not sure JB would have picked that up.

 

JT and the oline had a great game all day though.

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15 minutes ago, Jdubu said:

Great question. So this begs the follow up question. If Rivers was the one who read the defense and changed the play, is this something he has been allowed all season?  If that’s the case, he hasn’t changed the play call correctly too often. If he hasn’t been able to change the play call all year until recently, why not and that means Reich hasn’t sent in good calls. It seems that the offense, like the defense hasn’t been consistent in most games. I think that opens questions such as this. What exact has PR been allowed to do as a vet QB? Is he free to change plays at any time or is he hamstrung to what Reich sends in? Interesting 

Rivers has free will to change the play at anytime.

 

It was Rivers that audibled and changed the play from a pass to a run on the Taylor TD

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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

Wilkins?   The usual 3rd or 4th string back?

 

The back who averaged 6.0 and 5.8 yards per carry his first two years?    You want an UPGRADE on that guy?

 

Dear God!   Where does this come from?   :facepalm:

Say we go onto next season with hines taylor and wilkins. If taylor gets hurt wilkins  and Hines  are starting.  That's  the whole reason  I liked the taylor pick. I figured he could put up good numbers if mack got hurt. Don't  feel that way about wilkins 

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